Recommend a Good Adhesive.....I'm Having Leaks

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Brewash
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   Posted 4/13/2008 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   

Hello,

I would like to ask a question regarding the HydroFrame® Hydrocolloid Flange Extensions, the member who suggested use of these was Ohio 43.

I want to know if you use this product and does it really work as well as it says on the website.  I have been experiencing leakage problems for the past month and I am at my wits end sad

Any feedback would be most appreciated.  I am really having a problem finding a good adhesive since Hollister stopped making their adhesive.


Jazzism
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   Posted 4/13/2008 3:12 PM (GMT -7)   
adhesive as in the sealing paste that goes around the opening of the flange? If so, I've always used covatec's product. I LOVED coloplast bags and flanges, but their paste that comes in the strip is just horrible.

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 4/14/2008 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   

Have you tried the Eakin Seal?  It can be used with any flange and is amazing!!  It looks like a donut and can be modified to your needs.  I use it in its original form and it holds great.

 


praying4healing
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   Posted 4/14/2008 3:19 PM (GMT -7)   
eakin seals are awesome...im dittoing ohio, try those!
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 4/14/2008 8:30 PM (GMT -7)   

I highly recommend Coloplast's Assura Extended Wear wafer. The adhesive on them is great and stays on me for a week, even after showering daily and swimming. I also use an Eakin seal underneath, which helps prevent leaks under the wafer.

Good luck!


Dx'd Crohn's in '99 at 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
Disease-free, medicine-free, and very thankful to be healthy again :)


nene205
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   Posted 4/17/2008 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry, but I have a dumb question. Do you reuse the Eakin Seal? They look to be really expensive. I have no support here in the boondocks.

Ohio43
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   Posted 4/17/2008 9:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Brewash,

Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I've been really busy at work. By the time I get home, I feel like I'm getting ready for the next day. It dissapoints me that I can't get on more often. We're blocked from tons of websites at work. : (

I love the HydroFrame® Hydrocolloid Flange Extensions. I use two of them just about each time I change my pouch and flange. I use them with Coloplast Sensura one piece and two piece. I was allergic to every type of tape out there and the ET nurses didn't know what I should do except go without tape and then I was worrying about the whole thing coming off because I was trying to get over a yeast infection and/or allergic dermatitis from the tape and it wouldn't stay on. So, one day I started researching what was out there and found them through a company called Welland Medical. I order from two different medical supply companies. Most of my stuff comes from Sterling Medical, but Edgepark (who is my other company) is the only one who can get them. Welland Medical is in the UK. My doctor was thrilled when I showed him them as an alternative to tape. They really do help with security. They are made from the same thing the flanges are made of. It's more like a wax. I change everthing on the fourth day. Believe me, with my extremely sensitive skin, these have worked wonderfuly.

http://www.wellandmedical.com/we/products/Intl/Welland-Accessories/HydroFrame/

Welland should be able to send you some samples. It sounds like you may already know another place you can order them in the US. If you're unable to get samples, I can send you some. Just give me your address. I keep plenty in stock.

I hope this info helps. Good luck. Mary

Ohio43
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   Posted 4/17/2008 9:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Brewash, I thought of one other thing. For some time I had problems with leaking. I switched to a light convexity (even though my stoma sticks out about 1/2 inch. I have a temporary Loop Ileostomy (temporary...yae right. I've had it since July 2007.) that has what is called a "distal lumen". I guess it is another opening, so the light convexity helps to bring that out. It's very strange.

I tried those moldable one through ConveTec once, but they made the problem even worse for me. Even though there was some convexity, they molded way too much.

Mary

flchurchlady
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   Posted 4/18/2008 6:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Nene,
No, you can't reuse Eakin Seals. They go under your wafer around your stoma to prevent leaks. So, when you take your wafer off, it is stuck to it.

nene205
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   Posted 4/18/2008 10:05 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Cecilia. I thought it was a dumb question. I am hoping you get the job you want and it's better than the one before. I looked up the island on google and if you do get that job---lucky you.
Jennie

Brewash
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   Posted 4/22/2008 5:44 PM (GMT -7)   
:-)  Hello Ohio43
 
Thank you answering my post, I'm going to order the HydroFrame® Hydrocolloid Flange Extensions product and give it a try I hope it helps.
 
I'll let you know how it worked for me.
 
And thanks to everyone else with your suggestions.  I'll let you know how I came out! yeah

G.T.McGahon
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   Posted 5/2/2008 4:46 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi brewash,

I use the Hydroframes flange extensions and they work! I also use Cohesive slims,these are secure stoma seals and cavalon skin barrier which makes sure there is no moisture on the skin. I have used all these for over 3 yrs. I had terrible leaks, day and night. The worst was 7 times in 3hrs. Dont get me wrong i still have the odd leak. This is mainly down to weight loss. I am 5ft tall and weigh 6st 11. My normal weight is about 7st 8. When i am at normal weight i only leak very rarely. Try these............They really do work.  Good Luck!

Grace

 


Diagnosed with slow transit bowel  in jan 1999, 1st illeostomy in August 2004.
Reversal in 4th February 2005.
Adhesions operation 24th February 2005.
Peritinitis operation 26th february 2005.
 
Hickman line inserted into main artery 6wks later,7wks after that contracted Scepticemeia.
 
 
 
 


Brewash
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   Posted 5/5/2008 4:30 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Grace,
 
Thank you for replying to my post.  I've ordered th hydro-frame flanges today, now I'm going to do some research on the Cohesive slims and the cavalon skin barriers.  I've been an Ostamate since 1996.  I was diagnosed with Ulcerative Colotis in September of 1977 and I finally had emergency surgery in July of 1996. 
 
I can say, I haven't been sick a day since only the small obstacles with my appliance, I must say I am very happy not to be sick anymore tongue
 
But any how, I'll repost when I receive and use my supplies.
 
 
Thanks!
Brenda

awesomeame
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   Posted 5/6/2008 5:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Brewash said...

I am really having a problem finding a good adhesive since Hollister stopped making their adhesive.

huh?  they quit making the adapt paste? :-O  i hope you're talking about something else...?
 
--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


Brewash
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   Posted 5/6/2008 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi (Awesomeame),

No I'm not talking about the adapt paste, it's the skin bond cement the white glue in a can. It's was officially called "Smith & Nephew Skin Bond Cement".
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