Blood in bag :-(

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ucfree
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   Posted 4/15/2009 5:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Maybe I'm being paranoid maybe I'm not .. but is it "normal" to see fresh red blood in the bag right now? I had surgery exactly a week ago and have been recovering well .. I don't have much pain anymore but am starting to freak out a little with the sight of such blood. It wasn't much much .. but it was fresh and enough to make me sit my butt put and stop moving around as much.

However ... is it normal? I have a picture if anyone wants to see :(


Thanks

jblue65
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   Posted 4/15/2009 6:37 PM (GMT -7)   
don't panic- I am assuming that it wasn't a lot of blood. I would definitely call the doctor tomorrow, though.

Let us know how it goes.
Jackie, 43
Pancolitis, DX October 06

Lexapro, Synthroid, Protonix,
Tapering prednisone from 40 mg


Surgery March 13th- Total Colectomy
Jpouch surgery to be done in 3 steps


summerstorm
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   Posted 4/15/2009 7:24 PM (GMT -7)   
yes def dont panic, there are numerous things that can cause output to look bloody.

First thing to always think about is what did you eat recently. You would be suprised at the foods that can make your output look like blood. And it can fool you easily.

Second thing, did you just change your bag? if you did its not uncommon to see blood. Sometimes after i change my bag i have a good bit of blood in my bag afterwards. I think it was Peggy who cut hers somehow while changing a bag and it just bled and bled.

Third thing, did you bump your stomach? You might not have even felt something hitting your stoma cause it has no nerve endings. And they bleed really really easily, and they can bleed alot from nothing.

let us know what happens!

peggy113
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   Posted 4/15/2009 7:33 PM (GMT -7)   
summerstorm said...
Second thing, did you just change your bag? if you did its not uncommon to see blood. Sometimes after i change my bag i have a good bit of blood in my bag afterwards. I think it was Peggy who cut hers somehow while changing a bag and it just bled and bled.
Yes, my finger slipped accidently, after doing this for 24 years, and my nail actually sliced the side of the stoma.  It bled for a long time - not a lot but Enough to be noticeable.  If you don't have a problem with your blood, like n coumadin, I'd just watch it.  I rinsed my bag out with really cool water to help see what was going on w/o taking the bag off and disturbing it anymore.  It quit on it's own... natural clotting of the body will take over.  If you are still concerned, certainly call your doctor.
 
On the foods... have you eaten or drank ANYTHING red?  Anything at all?  It can change the output....  think.....   I usually surprise myself when I sit down and think about it.  I can't tell you how many times I have scared the bejesus out of myself doing that!!!!
 
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


ucfree
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   Posted 4/15/2009 7:44 PM (GMT -7)   
You guys are saviors !!!
I do not know what I would do without you guys ....
I had an egg sandwich this morning with some ice tea and then for lunch i had some shredded chicken salad (just chicken). I don't think that I had anything red to eat and I'm pretty sure it was blood ...

The home nurse came by on Monday and helped me change my bag for the first time ... maybe I didn't notice anything since then ...

The bleeding has stopped now (or it seems like it). I'm having the normal output for the night, I'll still call the doctors office in the morning just to inform them.

Thank you so much and I'll keep you guys posted!

Much appreciated!

peggy113
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   Posted 4/15/2009 7:50 PM (GMT -7)   
If it's stopped, and the output is normal, and you don't have any additional pain or anything, just get a good nights' sleep and don't worry too much about it..

Another thing that could have caused it: Chances are the opening of the flange may have a sharp edge (the outside plastic coating doesn't melt away like the underside/sticky part of the flange. So, with your wear time, sometimes the hard plastic is left immediately around the stoma hole opening and it CAN and has on me, cut the side of the stoma. Nothing to worry about. So don't worry about it thru the night.

Sleep well.
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


summerstorm
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   Posted 4/15/2009 9:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Doesnt sound like it is any of your foods, but you would be suprised at the foods that can cause it. Some you wouldnt even think of. I ate strawberries today and forgot about them and thought i had blood!

Like peggy said, since its stopped and the output isfine, i wouldnt worry about it.

ucfree
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   Posted 4/16/2009 8:19 AM (GMT -7)   
Everything is back to normal now :-) Wheewphhhhh !!!
Thanks everyone ...

Just a bit tired today :( I think I might stay in bed all day today and rest ...

When is it ok to go back to work ?

Jackie .. how are you doing ?

Roddiesgirl
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   Posted 4/16/2009 9:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi!  I just read your post and wanted to share my experience.  I too had blood in my bag (alot of it!) not once, but twice!!  I believe what happened to me was that I hadn't cut the hole around the stoma smoothly and while I was moving around more than usual, the wafer cut the stoma.  I mentioned it to my surgeon and he said that this was a possibility.  It sure was scary though, so I share your concern upon seeing the blood!!  I'm glad u are feeling better and there was no reoccurence of it!!  .........Cheryl

Hysterectomy 1998
Diagnosed IBS 2000
Vaginal Prolapse Surgery 2001
3 Hernia Repairs, 2004
Repeat Vaginal Prolapse Surgery 2006 (the mesh from previous prolapse surgery had let go and fallen into my bowels)...
Removal of mesh from bowels (it was piercing holes all through my bowels and appendix and cecum, causing 2 fistulas and heavy bleeding vaginally and rectally)...mesh was removed, two pieces of large bowel removed and resectioned with a loop ileostomy. 2008
 
I have underlying connective tissue disorder (Ehlers Danloss Syndrome) which is the reason for the two failed surgeries)
 
Ileostomy Reversal March 9/09


ucfree
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   Posted 4/16/2009 9:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Cheryl ... yeah I think this is what happened .. I'm going to be changing my wafer tomorrow I'll be a LOT more careful :-)

jblue65
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   Posted 4/16/2009 10:25 AM (GMT -7)   
Wow you are already thinking about getting back to work?? tongue
I am glad that you are feeling better and yeah-- you still need to rest.

I am doing okay-- much more energy and I am seeing Dr. Weiss for follow up this coming Monday. I am pretty sure he will give me the go ahead to work. So I am thinking about going back to work week of April 27th. I want to finish out the school year ( I am a high school teacher and reading specialist).

I am getting used to the bag- if everything goes as planned I will still have it after 2nd surgery ( the creation of the jpouch) and then the ileostomy will be removed and jpouch will be connected during 3rd surgery. 2nd surgery will be sometime in June and 3rd in early Aug.

Did Dr. Weiss say how long before 2nd surgery for you?
Jackie, 43
Pancolitis, DX October 06

Lexapro, Synthroid, Protonix,
Tapering prednisone from 40 mg


Surgery March 13th- Total Colectomy
Jpouch surgery to be done in 3 steps


ucfree
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   Posted 4/16/2009 10:43 AM (GMT -7)   
I've been thinking of work since the first night I got out of surgery !!!
I guess I have one of those personalities :)

Sounds like you're doing well and please keep me in the loop with what Dr Weiss tells you ... I actually told him about this forum and about you .. he was kind of surprised that we found each other, quite a coincidence.

No word on when my reversal is but I have my post op appointment on May 18th. I'm trying to get it pushed up but I don't know if that will help any or not.

Keep in touch and good luck with the appointment !

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 4/16/2009 5:15 PM (GMT -7)   
take your time healing!! You just had MAJOR surgery...I KNOW you're feeling better without UC, but your body still needs time to recover. 6 weeks is usually a minimum but many docs are different.

Glad the bleeding stopped:)
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