Fleets Enema question

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taurus
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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I am having my very first round of botox shots tomorrow. But she wants me to take two Fleets enemas.
 
I hate Fleets enemas with a passion. I have always had problems with them. I don't know if it's the liquid. I know it has alot of sodium. Whatever is in them is like acid. It hurts like hell. And it always takes forever for them to work on me so it's agony. But my doctor has also suggested tap water enemas are just as effective.
 
So I was wondering if it's safe to buy a Fleets enema, pour out the liquid, and replace with warm water? Obviously I plan on buying the 2 pack of enemas. So I won't be using each bottle but once. And I have been looking all over for enema bottles that are already empty. But they are impossible to find. And I have used the bulb syringes. But they kind of suck.

tinkerbell2
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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
It should be perfectly fine if your doctor said a warm tap water enema is fine. I never found the fleet saline enema's to work very well.. I use the little fleet glycerin LIQUID (4 little tubes in a box).. works wonderful.. that and one warm water enema you should be good to go!
*** New Schdule Schedule July 26, 2010 **

~Jenise~


Chronic Constipation - last 20+ yrs.
Stage lll Pelvic Floor Prolapse ( rectocele, rectal, vaginal, bladder) Rectopexy, Sacral Colpopexy, TVT Sling - 8+ hr surgery - March 2009
Constipation increased, could not move bowels without excessive straining or laxatives - March 2009
TVT Sling Released - April 2009
Redundant, Twisted, Prolapsed colon found - causing mechanical obstruction Oct. 2009
Rectosigmoid Colectomy w/low anterior Anastomosis & Revised Rectopexy - Dec. 2009
Perineorrhaphy & Posterior Colporrhaphy (rectocele repair) - Dec. 2009
Today - using MiraLax daily,but still struggle to have a BM :(

** update: Surgery to fix rectocele and other pelvic issues 07/26/2010)**


Janiepain
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   Posted 5/19/2010 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Jenise,
I tried the little liquid fleets but they didn't do as well for me. How long do you have to leave them, and do you have to stay on the floor? Maybe a dumb question?

snugglesaurus
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   Posted 5/19/2010 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm the girl that buys the whole shelf at a time and the cashiers look at me like I must have some weird fetish. They're getting to the point that they aren't working anymore.

However, if you can find the bag enema (red) - I think I finally found one at Rite Aid you can use just water in that.

You could also try a glycerin suppository first (usually I hold it in for 30+ minutes).

For keeping the enemas "in" I try to hold it as long as possible. If there is no severe urge after a few minutes, I keep holding it. Don't walk around - it doesn't help the situation. I lay down on the bed with a towel under me or in the bathroom (there is a picture on the box with two poses). Massaging my abdomen helps in my situation. If I can't get them to work I'll opt for the water enema so I can utilize a lot more liquid to "wake up" my colon further up inside of me.

Hope this helps.
Diagnoses: Appendicitis, Terminal Ileitis, Crohn's, Celiac Disease, IBS-C, Chronic Constipation, Colonic Inertia, Rectocele, Anismus
Tests: 2 Colonoscopies, 2 CT scans, Sitzmark Test, Anorectal Manometry, Food Allergies, Thyroidism, Pudental Nerve Study, Defacogram, SMART Pill, Electromyogram, Celiac Panel, Small Bowel Study, Gastric Emptying Study - Solids
Tried: Pentasa, exercise, diet changes, pro-biotics, mineral oil, vitamins, laxatives, stool softeners, Miralax, Amitiza, anti-depressants, fiber supplements, water enemas, Fleet enemas, suppositories, mineral oil, phenergan, Zofran
 
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taurus
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   Posted 5/19/2010 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everybody. I don't have a colon so basically what she wants is to get my lower part, (my rectum), clean. I guess that way she can get a clear view to do the injections.

I have an enema bag but the reason I like the Fleets bottles is because they are so much easier to administer. I just don't like the stuff IN the bottles. Too harsh for me. That's why I think tap water is better. No sodium.

honestwoman50
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   Posted 5/19/2010 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
taurus
  Topic fleet enema....I use to use them all the time, I would get them and pour out what it had in it and rinse it a couple of times then I would put warm water in them with a couple drops of baby oil...kind of makes things move easier...Just me but up to you..
 
Leslie
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  1984 Tubligation  1992 Diagnosed with Thyroid tumor    
1993 Gallbladder Removed  1997 Hysterectomy  1998 Carpol Tunnel 
 1999 Spinal Cord Surgery for a Anacroid Syst
2001 Lower Lumbar Fusion L4-5  
2003 Sigmoid Colon Resection
 2006 Right Knee Replacement 2005 Breast Reduction
 2008 RE-did the Lower Lumbar Fusion/ lamanoctomy
2010 DX: colonic Inertia/ Pelvic Floor Disorder
2010 Total Colectomy ABD W/O proctectomy; w/Ileosto
 
  


answers4me2
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   Posted 5/19/2010 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Taurus, are the botox injections for anismus, a non-relaxing puborectalis muscle? Are they putting you to sleep for the injections?

I also dump out the fleet stuff and put in warm water...but, enemas don't work for me, ever. My doctor said the puborectalis muscle is so tight, that the liquid can't go up into the rectum....

taurus
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   Posted 5/21/2010 9:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, my surgeon hasn't diagnosed me with anismus. But I do have the problem of my rectum muscles not relaxing. It has a tendency to tighten when I'm trying to go. It behaves like a fist. Tried bio feedback but that didn't work. So she suggested botox. Hopefully, that will help things relax while I try to go.

Yes, I was asleep during the injections. So far I have had three small bowel movements. I'm not really seeing a difference. Yet.

honestwoman50
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   Posted 5/21/2010 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
tarus,  Gosh it worrys me about the botox thing.  My doc said he would never use it because if they put too much...your going to be wide open,,,and things will drip right out.  Just be aware of that, not trying to scare you, its just what I was told.
 
Leslie
Leslie King
 
  1984 Tubligation  1992 Diagnosed with Thyroid tumor    
1993 Gallbladder Removed  1997 Hysterectomy  1998 Carpol Tunnel 
 1999 Spinal Cord Surgery for a Anacroid Syst
2001 Lower Lumbar Fusion L4-5  
2003 Sigmoid Colon Resection
 2006 Right Knee Replacement 2005 Breast Reduction
 2008 RE-did the Lower Lumbar Fusion/ lamanoctomy
2010 DX: colonic Inertia/ Pelvic Floor Disorder
2010 Total Colectomy ABD W/O proctectomy; w/Ileosto
 
  


lizz503
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   Posted 8/15/2010 12:51 AM (GMT -6)   
how's the botox effected your symptoms since you had it done? i had it done a month ago and am wondering what to other people's experiences are from it? i've had some improvement for anismus from it. botox NEVER caused me any leakage dripping right out of me.
dx- colonic inertia, anismus, rectocele 2010,
hypothyroid, anxiety, gluten intolerant
barium enema, colonoscopy, defography, anal mamonetry, sitz marker study.
botox injection 07/2010

taurus
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   Posted 8/15/2010 7:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Unfortunately, I have had NO improvement at all in my symptoms. I have had it done twice. The first time I had it done, I felt a slight difference. But it only lasted about two weeks. Then I had it done again a few weeks ago with dilation. And no improvement. And the second time she gave me a larger dose.
 
I have a problem with spasms when I try to go to the bathroom. The Botox is supposed to stop that from happening. I am glad I tried it though. Because I have read it does help some patients. It just didn't help me.
 
And yeah, alot of people are reluctant to try Botox because of the risk of leakage/incontinence. But I didn't have any negative side effects. I was just sore for a little while.

esoR
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   Posted 8/15/2010 3:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Taurus,

Yes, OK to dump out the salt water in the Fleets and replace with warm tap water. Rosemary
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