Closed end bags and flushable liners - Advice?

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Glori
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   Posted 8/26/2010 6:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I am new to this ostomy stuff, and the closed end bags sound absolutely wonderful, but I am not sure that two changes a day which my insurance covers would be adequate.  I have Crohn's, so my output is more frequent.  Has anyone used the flushable liners?  Do they dissolve in water, or will I need to have my sewer line dug out if I use these?  Also, if you don't use the liners, and just dispose of the bag, what do you do in a public place?  I can't wait to step out of the stall in a public bathroom with a bag of poo in my hand!  Maybe I could just kinda slip it under my shirt and sashay to the trash can and slip it in there.  Any advice would be helpful!
 
Thanks,
 
Glori

summerstorm
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   Posted 8/26/2010 8:01 PM (GMT -6)   
if you have an ileo, then a closed bag isnt really practical. You would have to change it way too often. I have an ileo and i empty 4-6 times a day.
The closed end ones are for people with colostomies who only have output once or twice a day.
I dont know about the liners my ET told me they werent worth the trouble.
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
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Glori
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   Posted 8/26/2010 9:37 PM (GMT -6)   
I have a colostomy, and hope that the output slows down to once or twice a day.  Maybe it would be a possibility for me, then. 
 
Thanks for the response, Summerstorm.

pghfan
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   Posted 8/31/2010 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
I swear by the liners. Much better than keeping pouches and disposal bags with you. The only issue is that they should be used in a public septic system where the chemicals break down the liners.  At my home with private septic, I put the liners in the brown plastic bags, and use a seal a meal bag to keep the odor.  I end up using one pouch a day.

Tara28
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   Posted 9/2/2010 9:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I have crohn's and a colostomy and initially I thought the idea of closed end pouches sounded great, but quickly found out:
1. I have output many times a day
2. hate the heavy feeling of much output in the ouch so empty it frequently
3 have lots o gas and with a 1pc closed there's no way to burp it. (the filters don't work)
4. what about using the pad/tampon receptacle in the stall to dispose of your bag? I buy doggie doo pickup bags and they are so cheap, scented, and just the right sz to knot the top and dispose.
33 years old, dx with Crohn's in 1998. Currently on :
Clofazimine 100mg daily,
Rifampin 600mg daily, and Clarithromycin 2 tabs daily
and Cipralex 10mg/day for anxiety.
Hydroxyzine, percocet, Ativan as needed.
5g pharmaceutical grade Omega 3's, 1000IU's Vitamin D3 daily
2 Perianal fistulas, and 1 more suspected. Crohn's only at end of colon, cecum. Remi, Asacol, Salofalk, Imuran, Humira did nada. Built immunity to long-term Cipro use, which also induced panic attacks.

Allison77
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   Posted 9/5/2010 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I too have a colostomy and use close ended pouches. I use to use the liners but have switched to very small pouches that the liner's don't fit in. The liner's will break down so don't be over concerned with plumbing issues.
I always carry a Glad brand plastic sandwich baggie in my purse. When I use a public washroom I put the used pouch in a baggie and put the entire thing in a "sanitary napkin" recepticale.

-Allie
RX Crohn's 1999, over 30 surgeries, 3 strokes, permanent colostomy and rectum removal.
 
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