Sure Seal Question

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pswift520
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   Posted 2/17/2011 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I received 2 sure seals samples in the mail in the past when I was still new to all this ostomy stuff. I did not have a good experience with them. I don't think it was the sure seals as to one of the situations was a complete blow out.
I have an order in for some now and an expecting them in the mail anyday.
I want to try these things again that I see such high priase from others on here about.
My question is this, how do you apply them and keep them from coming loose around the edges.  Do you just put them on clean dry skin or do you use any prep with them.  I want to get them right beacuse it seems like so many of you have good experience with them.  I am doing will with everything else but would just like to have the added protection when I take a shower.
Thank you in advance for any advice.
 
 

Disneynut66
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   Posted 2/17/2011 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
I use the large size. I really don't have to stretch the hole, it is almost the perfect size. First I warm the seal with a hair dryer. Then I put on powder and then spray with 3M spray. I do this a couple of times to get it crusty (helps irritation and helps with a good seal). Then I put it on without touching it too much. Use the hair dryer again for a few seconds then put on my appliance. I put hair dryer on it (warm setting) and press down everywhere for a minute. I haven't had any leaks since doing it this way, and I had a lot of leaks! Also, I kind of turtle neck the seal so it goes a little inside the hole of my appliance.

Hope this helps.
Diagnosed 2006. 1st step of 2 step j-pouch 1/3/11. 2nd step will be in April! So done with this disease.

pswift520
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   Posted 2/17/2011 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I am confused. I thought you put it over your wafer. Sounds like you are putting it under yours.

summerstorm
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   Posted 2/17/2011 9:31 PM (GMT -6)   
i think she may be talking about eakin seals, those are a different thing.

sure seals are the plasticy things, and they do go over your wafer. this is what i do, although im no expert.
i put everything on, then i tape my bag up so its a little tiny ball, then i cut the sure seal on one side, so that it opens and i can fit it around like that. Then i pull the backing off and stick it on. However i always mess up somewhere, so i get another one and cut and paste until i get it right, lol. As for the edges rolling up, i never had any problem with that until recently i started having that happen, i think i got a bad batch or something.
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
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fish1
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   Posted 2/17/2011 10:09 PM (GMT -6)   

I use them every time I change and have never had a leak. I wear my stuff for a week in the texas heat, and shower every day and have not had a problem. Here is what I do when I change. Take everything off, shower, shave...I got a hairy belly.. and wash with a cloth all around the stoma to give it a good clean  with soap only. then just towel dry. I use convatec natura moldable 411802. I trim the cloth outside the wafer to about half size. This gets more of the sure seal on my skin. I apply the wafer, then put the sure seal over that. I end up with about a half of an inch of sure seal on just my skin. It never goes on perfect, I always have some kind of wrinkle but it has never caused a problem. Then I snap on the bag. I just try to let body heat seal the wafer and don't do any running around for the first couple hours after I change. Hope this helps..if you have any other questions let me know

Paul


summerstorm
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   Posted 2/18/2011 12:05 AM (GMT -6)   
i have a really hard time snapping the bag on after the sure seal is on, which is why i put the bag on first.
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
-I have gone to find myself, if i get back before i return, keep me here-
No matter what kind of day you are having, take five minutes to sing loudly and dance like a fool!

Disneynut66
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   Posted 2/18/2011 2:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry...still learning all the lingo...yes, that's not what I use.

So, I wonder, do those work better than what I am using?
Diagnosed 2006. 1st step of 2 step j-pouch 1/3/11. 2nd step will be in April! So done with this disease.

fish1
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   Posted 2/18/2011 8:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Disney..the sure seal goes over the out side of your wafer and does two things..helps hold everything on and keeps it water proof. The eakin seal (what I think you are using??) goes on your skin before that wafter as a skin protecter. It is not a work better thing it is two different products with two different expected results.  Many people here have had good results with the sure seals. They come in two sizes depending on which wafter you use...my suggestion is do try the sure seals!!

Equestrian Mom
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   Posted 2/18/2011 8:14 PM (GMT -6)   
You can request samples at: www.alpglobal.com

They just need to know what wafer you use and they will send the seal size that will work for you:) They'll send you two seals and directions...just know that there is a learning curve BUT it is worth it!!!
Crohn’s dx 1989
some terrible years before my
temporary ileo in 2001
Proctocolectomy w/end ileo in 2008
...wish I knew then what I know NOW!
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