Coloplast Sensura base plate life and 2-piece rotating bags

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smackie
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   Posted 4/26/2011 5:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

After getting frustrated with putting on one-piece bags (Hollister Moderna Flex) and having leaks due to poor positioning I decided to go down the route of 2 piece equipment.

I was excited by the 2-pc Coloplast Sensura click and the ability to rotate the bag when required. [I like to wear my bag sideways when heading out but prefer to have it down when sleeping, emptying or relaxing at home].

Was wondering if people have had experience with how long the sensura base plates last - all I get from the coloplast rep is that I can have 'x many bags and x many base plates a month' under the Australian stoma scheme - and they don't want to tell me how longer the base plates and bags last for.

Also - are there any other rotating 2-pc systems out there? I just want to be able to rotate the bag now and then when required.

Cheers,

Smackie
Jul 06 - Dx with Coeliac
Sep 06 - Dx with Crohn's
Oct 10 - Pancolitis subsequent to a campylobacteriosis infection
Dec 10 - Dx Crohn's (GI) / Dx UC (Surgeon) / Dx Indeterminate colitis (Pathologist)
Dec 10 - Subtotal Colectomy & End Ileostomy [complicated by high dose IV steroids]
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2012 - Ileosigmoid anastomosis? J-pouch? Total proctocolectomy?

Blueheron
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   Posted 4/26/2011 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
I have tried the Sensura Click 2-pieces. I change my pouch twice a week, so I have never tested how long they could possibly stay on. The standard-wear option definitely lasted me 3-4 days though. Also, the Sensura line does come in an XPro wafer, which is their extended-wear version. I switched to these because I felt they sticked better and peeled up along the edges less... I still only keep them on for 4 days though (my nurse recommended I change every 4 days as my output erodes my Eakin Seals in that amount of time). I haven't rotated my bag because I like how the vertical position works with my clothing, but it seems like this would work with this model. Convatec also makes an autolock series. I have some samples but haven't tried them yet... still from putting them together, it seems like they would rotate very easily. The one thing with them is that they only come in a tail clip version... so if you like velcro, they may not be the best for you.

I am still experimenting with different brands and models... I seem to have a sample of every pouch ever made:) At two a week, it is taking me forever to try everything. Have you been able to get samples of different products? It definitely helps. I can't wait to figure out exactly what I like so I can begin to confidently place my order with my supplier every month.

Two pieces are so much easier to use. I was using 1-pieces for four months while complications with my abdominal incision healed. I didn't have any leaks, but I could not place the opaque ones on over my stoma right because I couldn't see through them. So I stuck with the transparent ones... got sick of seeing my output all the time. Not to mention that sometimes I got the bag on crooked and had to live with it until the next change. The two-pieces are wonderful. Easy to place over the stoma... easy to place the bag on straight. Plus I will be able to pop on a closed end pouch for swimming etc.
-Officially diagnosed with UC in 2006, though had symptoms since 1999.
-Had mild/moderate symptoms continuously until severe flare in autumn 2010 which required 2-week hospital stay
-Took Asacol, Rowasa, Canasa and Prednisone to manage flares but meds stopped working
-Tried 1 infusion of Remicade but had excruciating joint pain and discontinued
-Had permanent ileostomy surgery 11/8/2010

Post Edited (Blueheron) : 4/26/2011 9:26:34 AM (GMT-6)


2b ColonFree
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   Posted 4/26/2011 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
i use coloplast sensura 2 piece and the wafer lasts for a whole week for me. it can last more, but i don't risk it. a whole week is good already and i'm thakful i'm able to keep it that long.
Hodaya
06/05/2007 - STARR procedure
colonic inertia w/pelvic floor dysfunction
08/16/2009 - total colectomy w/ileorectal anastomosis
07/08/2010 - loop ileostomy

summerstorm
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   Posted 4/26/2011 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
i got a sample of the coloplast and i broke the thing trying to figure out how to work it! i didn't have it on me yet, i was just looking at it, i clicked the bag onto the wafer and then couldnt' figure out how to get it off! and then when i thought i had figured it out, i broke the white ring thing off!
i can't figure those things out!
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
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2b ColonFree
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   Posted 4/27/2011 12:47 AM (GMT -6)   
here's the link to coloplats video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikBcwqV-p-w&feature=related
Hodaya
06/05/2007 - STARR procedure
colonic inertia w/pelvic floor dysfunction
08/16/2009 - total colectomy w/ileorectal anastomosis
07/08/2010 - loop ileostomy

andorable
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   Posted 4/27/2011 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Smackie
I'm in Australia too and get the sensura click system as well and find they are great, I am in Queensland and I am able to get 2 boxes of pouches with 30 in each box and 6 boxes of wafers with 5 per box and find that is more than enough for me. I change whenever I feel like theres odor coming from them which lately I have been ultra sensitive to what smells like a charcoal odor and it drives me crazy so I have tried to just change the pouch but can smell it on the base plate too so I have only been leaving the base plate on for 2 days and the pouch I can afford to change every day since I get so many per month. We are lucky to have a great system in place for our medical supplies, I wouldn't know what to do without it. Where in Australia are you? Wondering if other states the system is the same. I only pay a yearly subscription to the stoma association of around 30 dollars and that covers me for an entire year then just pay the postage of eight dollars a month, its awsome.
take care
Doreen
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