Does the bag inflate more at high altitude?

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blueglass
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   Posted 7/13/2011 12:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi,

I'm off to Colorado in a few days, leaving from Boston, which is officially 9 feet above sea level, to places that are much higher. Someone (who doesn't have an ostomy) just told me to watch out for my bag inflating .... I hadn't even thought about that, wondering if it's real or not. I didn't have any trouble when I went on a plane, but that's pressurized.

I very rarely have much gas or air in my bag now. I had assumed that folks who do just had different digestive systems or were eating different foods than I do, but now I'm wondering if altitude is a factor.

Also, anything I might be missing about going from a humid place to a very dry place?

I haven't had the bag through all seasons yet....

thanks
48 years old, female.
2004 dx indeterminate colitis. Back and forth between Crohn's and UC dx. Many drugs, minimal success.
2010-11 Crazy skin and eye complications, high fevers, bad flaring. Out of good drug options, tired of scary drugs.
Feb 2011 -- proctocolectomy with permanent ileolostomy; abscess, blood clot. Still healing, still glad for the surgery

stripey
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   Posted 7/13/2011 1:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I have had gas problems on a plane. Bit like those packets of peanuts they give you, they are really full of air and mine can go a bit mad but just means I empty it more often and usually settles down after couple of hours so not a long term thing. As to somewhere on the ground with higher altitude I have no idea, never really thought of it. I have been skiing with my ileo and never noticed any problem. Be interesting to find put though.
Crohn's dx 1989, loop ileo 1992, end ileo 1992. Arthritis developed 1990 Stoma abcess 1995. Azathioprine started 1995. Panprocolorectomy 1999. Stillbirth 2000, antiphospholipid syndrome dx 2000. Flare up 2004, stoma abcess and strictoplasty 2004. Low blood pressure dx with impaired kidney function 2006, fludrocortisone pres. flare up 2010, steroids, Humira, codeine.

Subzeromambo
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   Posted 7/13/2011 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Blueglass,
Great question! My home is 1,000 feet above sea level. It is the highest point in our city. I live up here because of the amazing view and the fact that I love snow. The rest of the city rarely has snow. Humidity level usually varies between 30% and 50%. I have never had my bag inflate more at home than down in the city. 1,000 feet is nothing compared to most mountains. I am not up to mountain climbing yet. Let us know what you find out.
Szm

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   Posted 7/14/2011 1:02 AM (GMT -6)   
i don't think altitude, humidity etc should change anything. only what you eat does.
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07/08/2010 - loop ileostomy

Blueheron
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   Posted 7/14/2011 7:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't think altitude does anything. I live at 5600 ft, but when I went and hiked some 14,000 foot peaks recently, I did not notice any change with my pouch inflating more.
-39 years old
-Officially diagnosed with UC in 2006, though had symptoms since 1999.
-Had mild/moderate symptoms continuously until severe flare in autumn 2010 which required 2-week hospital stay
-Took Asacol, Rowasa, Canasa and Prednisone to manage flares but meds stopped working
-Tried 1 dose of Remicade but had excruciating joint pain and discontinued
-Had permanent ileostomy surgery 11/8/2010

fish1
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   Posted 7/14/2011 12:56 PM (GMT -6)   

I don't know but I will be elk hunting at 10,000 ft plus at the end of Aug. Going from sea level in Houston area to the mountains!

Just proud to be able to go!


80sChick
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   Posted 7/14/2011 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree; I thinnk the only thing that affects it is the food you eat. If you had a plastic ziploc bag with chips in it high in the mountains, it wouldn't turn into a balloon.

I've been in Minnesota and down in Florida in CRAZY humidity, and I've noticed no difference. I've been in the mountains of North Carolina, and I've noticed no difference. I think that's kind of like a wives' tale or something.
Stephanie, 29 years old

March 2000-Diagnosed Crohn's Colitis
(Tried every drug imaginable, but lived 10 years with daily diarrhea)
March 18, 2010-Total Proctocolectomy and Permanent Ileostomy! :)
(Now med free, 4 subsequent procedures to correct blockages at stoma site)

Stoma named Zoe...She's my best bud!! :)

blueglass
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   Posted 7/14/2011 7:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah, I didn't think it sounded right, but the person said it w/such sincerity, just wanted to check it out. Thanks for the responses. If there's anything different and interesting, I will post, but I'm hoping not.....

I like the ziploc bag analogy....
48 years old, female.
2004 dx indeterminate colitis. Back and forth between Crohn's and UC dx. Many drugs, minimal success.
2010-11 Crazy skin and eye complications, high fevers, bad flaring. Out of good drug options, tired of scary drugs.
Feb 2011 -- proctocolectomy with permanent ileolostomy; abscess, blood clot. Still healing, still glad for the surgery

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   Posted 7/15/2011 3:18 AM (GMT -6)   
have a great time :):) and don't let anyone confuse you.
Hodaya
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colonic inertia w/pelvic floor dysfunction
08/16/2009 - total colectomy w/ileorectal anastomosis
07/08/2010 - loop ileostomy

blueglass
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   Posted 7/15/2011 8:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks!
48 years old, female.
2004 dx indeterminate colitis. Back and forth between Crohn's and UC dx. Many drugs, minimal success.
2010-11 Crazy skin and eye complications, high fevers, bad flaring. Out of good drug options, tired of scary drugs.
Feb 2011 -- proctocolectomy with permanent ileolostomy; abscess, blood clot. Still healing, still glad for the surgery

esoR
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   Posted 7/15/2011 9:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Blue,

I'm from Mass. too. Let me know how you do with the flight. Good luck, Rosemary

ENIGMAWRAP
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   Posted Yesterday 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Blueglass:

Not sure who told you that but it is true! Some of the folks who have left comments have gone from low-to-high altitude and vice-versa...however, it sounds like they took the "scenic" route from one to the other so the gas pressures all equalized.

However, if you get on a plane with a little gas in the bag, when you get to altitude the cabin will be at lower pressure than when you started so gas that WAS IN THE BAG, will have expanded..however, once you empty (or 'burp') that, it should be the same as the pressures will equalize...

Have a great trip to the West! I loved it in Colorado and will go again in a years time or so...

Regards,
jimmy

blueglass
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   Posted 7/18/2011 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
OK here's the report:

I have not noticed anything w/the bag inflating, but I was very surprised when we landed in Albuquerque, there was no doubt that my waffle cushion had inflated significantly! I've been carrying it around for months and it was just obviously bigger, enough so that my family could tell too, just from looking at it.

My partner's nephew said that they used to like to take full balloons on car rides up higher in the mountain -- at some point they pop. I want to try that too.

I am digging out my chemistry, remembering pv = nrt..... so if the pressure goes down, volume goes up ..... but that's for gasses, and I don't have that much gas in the bag, it's mostly liquid..... so I am agreeing w/Jimmy.

As for the ziploc bag, if it started w/air in it, than it's like the balloon, so it should expand some, but if you take the air out first, shouldn't matter.

Hope my waffle cushion doesn't pop when I get higher up!

Anyways, I'm having a great time, it's so gorgeous here. We walked by the pedialyte at the store yesterday and I was just so happy -- that was my beverage of choice last year on the trip, and I hope I never drink it again! (I have some issues w/gatorade). Going to Mesa Verde today, my partner grew up a few miles away, but in the last three years, I have been too fatigued to actually go. It is so fabulous being healthier!

I don't have time to read other posts now, but I wanted to share this interesting info.... will catch up when I get home. Hope you're all well.
48 years old, female.
2004 dx indeterminate colitis. Back and forth between Crohn's and UC dx. Many drugs, minimal success.
2010-11 Crazy skin and eye complications, high fevers, bad flaring. Out of good drug options, tired of scary drugs.
Feb 2011 -- proctocolectomy with permanent ileolostomy; abscess, blood clot. Still healing, still glad for the surgery

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   Posted 7/18/2011 10:54 AM (GMT -6)   
so glad you're having so much fun :):) definitely interesting info. here's to many many more healthy years to come!!!!
Hodaya
06/05/2007 - STARR procedure
colonic inertia w/pelvic floor dysfunction
08/16/2009 - total colectomy w/ileorectal anastomosis
07/08/2010 - loop ileostomy
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