mad back pain after surgery

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kazygirl
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   Posted 5/4/2012 5:29 AM (GMT -7)   
just curious... am i the only one?
i have mad lower back pain every morning when i wake up. so bad it is hard to move.
only since the hospital after the surgery though. not before.

i can't even slightly bend backward.
am i just stiff from the surgery.
it was really hard to walk for a week or so after surgery while in the hospital.
is this the same thing?

do i need to be doing stretches or anything in particular to not become an inanimate carbon rod (that translates to 'stiff as hell' or completely unflexible) LOL

please advise!

not sure if i should be twisting and stretching or if its okay now. (surgery was march 22)

blueglass
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   Posted 5/4/2012 7:38 AM (GMT -7)   
How much pain do you have later in the day? Does it get better after you've moved around some?

Sounds like it could be from how you're sleeping. Are you sleeping on your back? Side? If you're on your back, it's good to put a pillow under your knees, so your back lies flat. On your side, a pillow between your legs. (Stomach sleeping can be very hard on the back, not sure what you can do for that).

At some point when people get older, we do tend to need to stretch in the morning. You might be imitating an older person for now.... I already had a back stretching routine before surgery, so I just did what felt OK to do, but if you're looking to start one, I'd recommend going to PT if you can to make sure you're set up for something that won't hurt.... or maybe ask your ostomy nurse.

There are some pretty gentle (unless your back is very bad, then it's not so gentle) exercises like pelvic tilts (you can do them standing up) that might help. And if you're not too stiff to walk, that can help a lot too.

Hope you feel better soon. Back pain is awful.
49 years old, female. Sick for way too long with Crohn's (or possibly UC) Proctocolectomy and permanent ileostomy in Feb 2011. Surgery for lingering perineal wound on Sept 26. Other than the wound, been feeling healthier than I have in years.

windy city
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   Posted 5/4/2012 10:16 AM (GMT -7)   
My back pain was really painful during hospitalization and after. Couldn't move side to side or twist and was told not to by all the physical therapists. That motion took months to overcome. Forward and backwards was OK, I was actually washing my kitchen floor on my hands and knees 1 week after being discharged. I was very frail and weak, also abdominal incision was open (was the major problem). I'm sure your in a much stronger condition. Be very gentle. Are you able to drive? Does it hurt to turn when backing up to park? That was torture for me, the twisting. Also breaking? Those were tests to see my limitations. When the driving got better, so did my physical activity.

summerstorm
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   Posted 5/4/2012 10:31 AM (GMT -7)   
You probably don't notice but most likely you are walking slightly hunched over to compensate for pulling on the core muscles. That's what's making your back hurt. I had horrible back pain and my surgeon told me lots of people have back pain, for that reason. This past surgery I was very careful to keep my back straight, and didn't have the pain.
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
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Ironmum
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   Posted 5/4/2012 12:40 PM (GMT -7)   
Absolutely it's down to the surgery, the changes in your posture, your core stability, the fact your abdominal muscles have been cut, the way you move, sleep, sit etc is all different. You're likely to be walking more hunched too. It's not surprising you have back pain, it's really common and hardly surprising given what our poor bodies have been through, but agony too.. I can empathise. I was having massage and physical therapy treatment after surgery for my back and it helped a great deal. You need to try and walk as upright as you can. Gently pull your tummy muscles in when you're standing or sitting and try to focus on good posture all the time. Pelvic tilts like blueglass describes are good too.

What surgery did you have? did you have laparoscopy or long incision?

You may need to ask for a referral to see a physio for some exercises and a massage therapist for some treatment?

The more you move the better you'll be, but go very very gently and just try to get a little more mobile. Watch your posture all the time. One good exercise is to go on your hands and knees in a box position, then just arch your back like an angry cat, then go back to flat again, repeat a few times and that will release your back a bit. But you're probably best getting some professional treatment and advice. I felt like a 100 yr old lady for a long time after surgery.

Take care and feel better soon.
Sarah - 39 year old mum of 2 boys, runner/triathlete from UK
June 2010 - Emergency partial colectomy for peritonitis/perforated diverticulitis. Temporary ileo, reversed Oct 2010.
Reversal failed - then diagnosed with colonic inertia
July 2011 - Permanent end Ileostomy - elective
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Crosby99
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   Posted 5/4/2012 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes I know that my posture sucked right after surgery from walking so much but being hunched over, since I couldn't completely stretch my stomach up the way I normally would walk. (But my posture is horrible anyway, so I guess that doesn't help my case.) I also noticed that my lumbar area was is crazy pain for awhile and I think it's from sleeping in the hospitable beds. Since they let you fold your knees and sit straight up, I oftentimes fell asleep basically sitting up, which put a lot of pressure on my lower back since I'd slept a LOT in the hospitable. Maybe this is the case for you? I'd just look up some simple lower back stretches and do them a few times a day, and work on your posture. Good posture in general is good for anyone.
UC diagnosis at age 7
Was in and out of remission for years
Total colectomy October 2011
Returning Feb 2012 to get the j pouch
Returning May 2012 to this bag taken off forever and be normal and healthy for once, can't wait!

Christine1946
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   Posted 5/4/2012 5:38 PM (GMT -7)   
     I remember saying to my surgeon, as soon as I awoke from surgery, that my back was killing me!  LOL!  He said, "You're back?  We didn't operate on your back!"
     I have osteoporosis, thanks to all the years I was on prednisone, and I believe that contributes substancially to my back pain.  It could be from changes in posture too.  I try to walk upright but catch myself slouching more often than not. 
     From these posts, looks like a lot of us are suffering from back pain.

Another UC wife
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   Posted 5/4/2012 7:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Most definitely for hubby...he went for a follow up appt with his surgeon 6/7 weeks after and mentioned it. The surgeon examined him and pressed here and there and was not concerned. He felt it was not a surgical thing to worry about and in time it would get better. It did take maybe 3-4 months and he finally went to a chiropractor which we have never done but was at his wits end. She is also a massage therapist, accupuncturist and a few other things...lol.

When I made the appt I made it clear NOTHING invasive to start and to be gentle. His hips were out of alignment and one leg was shorter than the other. She used a machine my husband called the "thumper" machine and did some gentle work on him. Unbelievably that very first appt we walked out of there and he felt GREAT!!! We went again 2 days later and went back for a 3rd appt that wasn't even needed.

Obviously his situation was not serious but enough out of whack that he needed her intervention. I agree with the above posts. That was a very serious surgery, tough recuperation and your body is thrown out of whack so it's no wonder many of you have this additional situation.

Hope it isn't too debilitating too much longer for you.
Wife of 64 yr old male suffered with UC & in May 06 had a severe flare & hospitalized 6 days...various prednisone treatments leading to steroid dependence and osteopenia, 12 asacol, 200 mg Imuran, failed remicade infusions Jan-May 2010 Dependence on pain meds. Made decision 6/10 to have surgery which was on 12/17/10 (total proctocolectomy & ileostomy - unable to have the j-pouch) & now pain free

allbluezoo
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   Posted 5/4/2012 9:03 PM (GMT -7)   
My back KILLED after surgery - do you know what position they have you in when they do it? It is NOT attractive, let's just leave it at that. I felt like I had been dropped from a 3 story window and landed on my tailbone.

T. R.
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   Posted 5/5/2012 1:32 AM (GMT -7)   
ABZ- Ahaha at mentioning the surgery position xD

My back hurt badly for several weeks after surgery... but it was already hurting before surety from having to be on it so often :x I've always slept on my side but after surgery it was too uncomfortable/painful for me to do so. Using lots of pillows helped somewhat. I absolutely love my body pillow now - with it I was able to transition back to side-sleeping.
Proctitis dx: Dec 2010 & Pancolitis dx: Dec 2011
Emergency subtotal colectomy with end-ileostomy: Feb 2012

uc_free
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   Posted 5/5/2012 4:13 AM (GMT -7)   
My back hurt too. I attributed it too tight muscles, also due to my posturing when I walked. I also attributed it to being in bed for so long.

What helped me is stretching before doing a lot of walking. People don't always realize this, but your hamstrings are connected to your back muscles, and if they are tight, then you can get bad back pain just from that. I used to be an avid runner, but I HAD to stretch well before I ran. In college, I played soccer, and the athletic trainer taught me two awesome hamstring stretches that I still use.

The first one is easy: find something freestanding that is about the same height as your hips (very important). Place your leg on that, ankle flexed and knees straight. Grab the foot of the elevated leg behind the flexed heel. Hold the position for about 10-15 secs and then switch legs.

The second stretch requires another person: While you're flat on the ground on your back, have the person with you lift one of your legs, perfectly straight, into the air, and hold in two places to keep it straight (on the knee cap and at the heel), while the other leg is on the ground, also straight. The person will push your leg toward your body until you feel a good stretch, at which time you tell him or her to "hold." Hold that stretch for about 10 seconds, and repeat the process, getting closer and closer to your body, for three times. Repeat it with the other leg.

The last stretch will make you feel so loose, you will literally feel like rubber when you get up. It will help a lot if your back pain is due to tight muscles. You'll have to do it everyday, followed by some walking with correct posturing.
Diagnosed with pancolitis in 1998
Tried everything but Remicade over a 14 year period and Imuran was really the only drug that worked before it stopped in 2010
Flared for a year and a half before spiraling out of control
Proctocolectomy with permanent ileostomy 11/29/11
Finally on the road to recovery

kazygirl
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   Posted 5/5/2012 6:19 AM (GMT -7)   
after reading all these posts i have been "trying" to stand and sit and walk with my back straight.
very hard.
it pulls on the top of my long incision and it hurts and feels like it is going to tear.

then i have the wound to deal with (when the bottom half of my incision opened up when they removed the staples.) that is still healing and doesn't make it easier to have good posture.

but i reckon you're all right. as soon as i read about the hunched over / posture, it just felt like the right answer.
that and the stupid uncomfortable hospital bed that i spent countless hours in.

i do use pillows under my legs when sleeping since i left the hospital and to tell you the truth, its not doing much for me at the moment. the pain is just too bad. it goes from bad to less bad, but not much. :(

i might call a physio therapist to find out about some good stretches for the front and back.
ill try the hamstring stretches too.
i was just afraid it will hurt my layers and layers of abdominal stitches & wound.
steph ~ gold coast, australia ~ 36
UC since 2003 :: lots of blood & pain, hard to manage flares, never more than 2 months remission at a time.
emergency life saving surgery in march 2012 :: total colectomy & ileostomy

felt great to throw away ALL my meds!
reversal planned for aug 2012 :: 2 more surgeries required to complete j-pouch

allbluezoo
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   Posted 5/5/2012 12:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I remember having to really work at it to stand up straight, hell even now I have to stretch to stand up straight after I've been sitting all slumped over and lazy on the couch for awhile.

summerstorm
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   Posted 5/5/2012 2:29 PM (GMT -7)   
One very simple thing you can do to strenghten your core and help with the pain is stand like a flamingo. If you can't handle that yet, just raise one foot of the floor while you are standing. It makes your core work to even you out.
UC for 8 years, before finally kicking its butt and having a permanent ileostomy April 17 2007!
-I have gone to find myself, if i get back before i return, keep me here-
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Trigirl
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   Posted 5/6/2012 8:36 AM (GMT -7)   
Yes, lying on a metal table during surgery for 6 hours or whatever can kill the back muscles.

Exercises mentioned are great. Front of thighs connect to lowerback and need strtching also. (Like heel towards bum)

I find sucking in on the lowe muscles in front of body is good way to keep back feelilng better. I do get massages and do acupunture too. My back gets weak the minute I don't keep it strong and limber.

Tranverse abdominals are the muscle I pull in. might need to look it up. Can't do "movement" to use them, must use brain power. Fitness instructors are always saying "press belly button to spine". I try to do it at stop lights and it's enough to keep pain away.

Hope you feel better soon. Even with knowing what to do it just plain took time to recover.
Those things we keep trying to do get easier not because the feat gets easier but our ability to "do" gets better.
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Ironmum
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   Posted 5/7/2012 1:06 PM (GMT -7)   
It's still very early days, so go easy. Trigirl is totally right in that it really just takes time to recover. Don't go mad with the exercises, but just be aware of your posture and gently try to correct it without causing pain in your incision. Try to see a PT if you can for some advice, but it may just take time.
Sarah - 39 year old mum of 2 boys, runner/triathlete from UK
June 2010 - Emergency partial colectomy for peritonitis/perforated diverticulitis. Temporary ileo, reversed Oct 2010.
Reversal failed - then diagnosed with colonic inertia
July 2011 - Permanent end Ileostomy - elective
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Ironmum
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   Posted 5/7/2012 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
sorry also forgot to mention.. you may need to stick with some pain relief for a while longer too. When you're in pain you won't stand straight, and will be all hunched over - esp if your incision is still open. Therefore contributing to your problem. When your pain is managed better, your posture will be better. Ibuprofen is probably your best bet but take some advice from your Dr or PT.
Sarah - 39 year old mum of 2 boys, runner/triathlete from UK
June 2010 - Emergency partial colectomy for peritonitis/perforated diverticulitis. Temporary ileo, reversed Oct 2010.
Reversal failed - then diagnosed with colonic inertia
July 2011 - Permanent end Ileostomy - elective
Follow my blog - http://bagthatruns.blogspot.com/
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