For what it's worth, I was at a meeting with a convatec rep over the weekend, and he had a sample of a new 2 piece bag/wafer that is supposed to be available in a month or so. I don't have enough experiance to know whether it was that much better or not, but it was soft, and the wafer was compact. It was the snap on type. I an't remember the name, I have it written down somewhere and will post it if i find it. Supossedly only a few hospitals have access to it right now.