BJJ/Martial Arts with colostomy

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HUNTERRR
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   Posted 7/11/2015 11:23 AM (GMT -7)   
hi guys n gals wondering if anyone can help me.

i used to do brazilian Jiu jitsu 2 years ago and started to really enjoy it however, i had to have the jpouch surgery as my ulcerative colitis was getting out of control and my quality of life was very poor.

after surgery things are great i have my life back etc. now 2 and a bit years after surgery I'm curious to see if BJJ is something i could go back to as i miss it so much!

anyone with a colostomy still do it?

i use a 1 piece bag and would obviously have it emptied before class and food prior to training would be at a minimum to avoid output.

any advice would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!!!!!

Rchodos
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   Posted 7/11/2015 3:25 PM (GMT -7)   
I wear a stealth belt or an Ostomy secret product when doing kickboxing. I wear a two piece, but found that I need to remind myself to stay hydrated with either g2 or power aid zero. Go for it!!!

HUNTERRR
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   Posted 7/12/2015 1:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Rchodos said...
I wear a stealth belt or an Ostomy secret product when doing kickboxing. I wear a two piece, but found that I need to remind myself to stay hydrated with either g2 or power aid zero. Go for it!!!
thanks for the reply mate! think I'm going to give it a bash.. do you just do the training or do you do like sparring and stuff aswel?

jpenley
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   Posted 1/26/2016 1:48 PM (GMT -7)   
HUNTERRR and Rchodos,

I'm wondering how it's going. Have you returned to BJJ?

ColoRectal cancer left me with two very large scars and a permanent colostomy. I'd really like to return to Jiu Jitsu, but I'm unsure if it's going to be possible. I too miss it.

Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

Jon36
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   Posted 1/26/2016 2:46 PM (GMT -7)   
I enjoyed Judo for about 25 years before my Ileostomy. I tried a variety of different combinations of various guards and belts and nothing was suitable. The very full on nature of Judo randori, in particularly the groundwork, meant that my stoma was rubbed and struck very painfully. The guards and belts would shift into uncomfortable positions and I'm sure that if I tried to train anywhere near how I used to I would cause myself a serious injury to my stoma.

If you can train by just drilling techniques in a controlled manner with an experienced partner who understands your condition then go for it. in my opinion, however, forget any sort of competitive BJJ.

I miss Judo but sometimes you just have to accept restrictions in some areas of your life. Having said all that, if anyone with experience can suggest a guard or belt combination specifically for Judo/BJJ then please let me know.

JS44
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   Posted 9/15/2016 4:06 PM (GMT -7)   
Before I got a sigmoid colostomy I spent 5 years going to the bathroom 15x / day. During that time I was very fit and practiced intermediate Tae Kwon Do & Kenjutsu. I had excellent training in both styles so I had no trouble practicing alone, and maintained very good form. Since getting the ostomy I've found it completely impossible to exercise and am now crippled. Here's why you can't do martial arts with an ostomy:

1. Your core strength comes from your abdomen and bicycle seat area. Having a big hole in your stomach and the bicycle seat cut-out/sewn-up leaves you very weak & frail. Your risk of abdominal hernia increases by a factor of 40. Imagine living with a soft-ball sized hernia, having multiple failed surgeries to fix it, and it hurts you every day for the rest of your life.. This is only one of many likely injuries.

2. Having an ostomy destroys your ability to eat food. Even liquid meals are incapacitating. So you have a small liquid dinner that has to sustain you all the next day. Deprived of glucose, your body routinely cannibalizes your muscles and you have stick-thin arms & legs. Your peripheral strength is now gone.

3. Your brain is equally deprived of fuel, and your insides are intensely uncomfortable, so you can't think anywhere near your best. Your reflexes, reactions, and coordination are very poor compared to your pre-surgery levels. Your brain is now as ill-equipped to fight as your body.

4. You're starving, crashing and totally out of energy. Its hard enough to clean/air the ostomy smell out of the house every day and stumble around outside for "exercise". Good luck doing 200 kick drills.

5. You always smell like crap with an ostomy. So you live in complete isolation and can't train with others. This means you can only practice moves that you already know very well, as you CANNOT learn martial arts over the internet. If you don't already know it, you never will.

Summary - Go into surgery at 25 in top physical/mental shape, and you will come out of it with the strength of a 65-year-old, the durability of an 80-year-old, and the smell of a rotting corpse.

Post Edited (JS44) : 9/15/2016 5:10:10 PM (GMT-6)


Mackster
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   Posted 9/17/2016 1:57 PM (GMT -7)   
"Always look on the bright side of life dadoo dadoo dadoo dadoo..."

(Song from "Life of Brian")

Michael Lindsay
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   Posted 9/11/2017 4:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry JS44, but none of that is true. If you're going through that, I have been there as well--the initial adjustments post op are terrible, but by no means permenant. If you want proof of what I'm saying, I'll happily post videos to prove otherwise. An ostomy is not a curse, nor is it a prison sentence. It preserves your life, and you make the rest.

To the original poster: I've practiced Kendo since 2004. Had to take some loooong breaks after I got sick and the mayhem that ensued. I just posted in the Crohn's forum if you want to read what happened, but I want to tell you that as martial artist with an unusually severe relationship to both colitis and crohn's, start small and keep going. Don't give up and relish every single victory. Every step forward is improvement, and the satisfaction you will get from beating the disease, your opponent, and yourself will be sweeter than honey.

Buy a stealth belt first off. Absolutely indispensable. Tell your teacher, and approach the situation from the standpoint of figuring out a new challenge or problem *together.* Watch when you eat and let your instructor know you might have to cut out to use the bathroom if the ostomy drains. Keep a spare appliance in your car.

Since having 4 (yes, 4) separate ostomies, I got my 4th dan and have also competed in our regional tournament. This summer, I won back my spot on our regional team. Don't give up and be patient.

PM me for anything, and best of luck on the mats. Maybe one day we'll get to practice together 😁⚔️💯

Post Edited (Michael Lindsay) : 9/11/2017 7:51:59 PM (GMT-6)


RiddleMeThis
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   Posted 9/12/2017 6:43 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry JS44. None of that is true. Such a terrible attitude!

I've looked imto martial arts myself and you can find many ostomates who are successful in the sport. Many use a supportive belt and/or stoma guard. A while back I found both forums with Youtube videos of ostomates discussing their success with martial arts.
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