Couple of questions about illostomy

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CornHusker
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   Posted 11/4/2006 8:26 AM (GMT -7)   
eyes  Well I've got two questions.
I had my surgery for the illostomy in July and it's not reversable due to colon cancer.
My Doctor cleared me to start working out again and since I started I've been getting pain along the lower half of my scar from the surgery. I think it's just from working out and using the muscles again but just wonder if anyone has had the same thing happen.
Doctor checked and couldn't find anything wrong and gave me the advice to stop working out but I need to get back in shape again. Working out is good for my body and mind so won't give it up.
Second thing is about what you can eat. They told me not to eat raw veggies or any kind of nut because it could cause a blockage.
But I can't see not eating salads or raw veggies the rest of the time so once again if anyone has some advice on that I'd greatly appriecate it. I've read all the stuff they give you on what to eat and what not but it's very vague.
Thanks to all that reply
 
Cornhusker

suebear
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   Posted 11/4/2006 5:14 PM (GMT -7)   
You don't have to give up working out while waiting to see if your current regime is causing you pain.  You can walk, hike, or swim to keep fit in the interim. 
 
I ate vegetables, nuts, and popcorn when I had an ileostomy.  I never suffered with any blockages.  The key is to chew your food very well.  I think this is all trial and error with people.  Take it slowly and when eating those foods drink plenty of water.
 
Sue
dx proctitis in 1987
dx UC in 1991, was stable until 1998
1998 started prednisone, asacol, pentasa, nortriptylene, ativan, 6MP, rowasa enemas and suppositories, hydrocortisone enemas, tried the SCD diet, being a vegetarian, omega 3s, flax, pranic healing, yoga, acupuncture, probiotics
2000 lost all my B-12 stores and became anemic
2001 opted for j-pouch surgery- now living life med-free
 


CornHusker
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   Posted 11/5/2006 7:45 AM (GMT -7)   
Sue,
Thank you for the advice. I do the walking but have been a weight lifter all my life and that's the part I don't want to give up. I'm trying to take it slow and see if I work thru it and with time the pain will go away.
I'll take the advice on the food and remember that I'm part of the hundred times chew club now and that you must drink plenty of water with it.
Once again thank you very much
Kurt

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   Posted 11/5/2006 11:50 AM (GMT -7)   
cornhusker -

i've always been a gym guy too, but i have found that you dont necessarily need to work your abs directly. your abs are tight when you are doing your other exercises, hence you are working them indirectly, if you follow me. if you do the exercises properly (pay attention to proper form) and push yourself with weights and reps, then you should be able to still get a good ab work out. remember this - as we get older we gain weight around the mid section. that is normal. you can control that by cardio and diet. it is tough to have a bit of a belly when you arent used to it. dont let vanity get you down.

cleo35
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   Posted 2/17/2007 9:26 PM (GMT -7)   
CornHusker: keep in mind that every muscle in your lower abdomen was probably cut if you have a long incision. That's going to take some time to heal - possibly a year to heal fully. Take it sssslllloowww - getting back in shape is great but you don't want to end up having more surgery because of over doing it! Good luck.

vette guy
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   Posted 2/23/2007 3:08 PM (GMT -7)   
It's great that you have the energy to get back in shape. However, as recently stated, your abdominal muscles have been compromised. Don't over do it so quickly. That could result in an incisional hernia and you could need more surgery as a result. As far as food. I was told to not eat raw veggies or nuts for the first month. Then introduce tham one at a time in you diet to make sure everything is okay.  Lastly, if you chew your food well you should be able to eat anything you want(in moderation).

summerstorm
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   Posted 3/19/2007 4:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I asked about the food at the dr the other day, and he said, no popcorn or nuts. And that it would be best not to eat a whole head of cabbage at one time, but that veggies are fine in moderation! Which sounds great to me, since because of UC I haven't had any veggies (excpet while pregnant) in almost 8 years.

EricaM
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   Posted 3/19/2007 8:59 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi!

I have had me ostomy for 2 years due to crohn's disease and I was told that for the first 2 months I had to watch what I eat.  Now I eat what ever I want but remember these three words "Chew, Chew, Chew!"

Als about working out I lift weights but I take it easy because I was warned about hernia from my doctor.

Erica


awesomeame
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   Posted 3/22/2007 4:42 AM (GMT -7)   
hey cornhusker!! i had my surgery this past newyears eve. when i started working out again around mid feb i felt that funny feeling under my scars and around my stoma. for the first couple weeks i did all my exercises every other day with no weights, or a max of 5lbs dumbells in each hand. then at the beginning of march i started pushing myself. i'm up to 75lbs on the benchpress and can do 20 male-style pushups. that's a 100% gain in less then a month on the benchpress, and at the beginning of the month i was having trouble doing more then one female-style pushup.

i think the key is just to start slow, get those muscles used to moving again, then start adding weight. i'm trying to avoid using my lower abs directly yet, although i've just started doing some small situps, maybe up to 20* with 20lbs. i'm not about to attempt any situps on my incline bench though. and i've just started doing some deadlifts, i'm up to 60lbs, that's a 100% gain after a week.

and as was mentioned you can exercise your abs indirectly too. some things to do:

-shoulder shrug, but lean forward 30*
-standing bent over flys. if you want more stress on the abs, just lean forward more
-bent over flattener. more stress, lean forward
-flys, the more reps you do, the more you'll feel it in the abs
-bent over row
-deadlift, more weight/reps for more stress
-bridge with dumbell, more weight or reps for more stress

if your butt is healed up enough you could do some squat variations too, i just listed the above off 'cause i think those are the most beneficial. pretty much anything exercises your abs tho...heck, everytime you walk through a doorway suck in your gut, that'll help too! once you get strong enough you'll be able to do some pushups, reverse leg lifts, situps etc.

anyway hope this helps a bit

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


awesomeame
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   Posted 3/22/2007 4:45 AM (GMT -7)   
oh, the docs also all said no raw veggies, nuts, or popcorn. which is fine with me: nuts are full of calories and fat, popcorn doesn't taste good period, and veggies taste so much better cooked anyways! any "stringy" and leafy veggies i usually chop or mince, 'cause i can't seem to chew slowly lol

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


chip
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   Posted 3/27/2007 7:33 AM (GMT -7)   
hi there and just like to say its still early day s so working out could very well give you a surgical hernia if you do stomach exercise , hope by now its' all settleed for you and would love to see an update
hugs
chip girl
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