fiberous foods/whole grains

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awesomeame
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   Posted 2/19/2007 6:52 AM (GMT -7)   
i'm approaching the end of my 8 week post op "low residue" diet, which means i'll be able to eat more fiberous and whole grain foods, fruits and veggies again.

is there anything specific that i should stay away from? what foods have given YOU problems with blockages in the past? post up your good/bad experiences-i can't wait to eat some rye & darker breads again...this white stuff is horrible.

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


Shaz032
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   Posted 2/20/2007 2:04 AM (GMT -7)   
You'll find everyone is different. Some people will tell you to stay away from popcorn, peanuts, corn, mushrooms, etc and others will tell you they eat all those foods and more without a problem. It's really a matter of experimentation.

Try introducing new foods, one at a time and CHEW, CHEW, CHEW! That way, if a food does cause you problems, you can identify the culprit and either limit it or totally eliminate it from your diet as needs be.

Please do NOT stay away from a certain food just because it affects someone else adversely. Chances are you will be able to eat that same food without a problem at all.

Good luck Matt.
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vette guy
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   Posted 2/26/2007 1:32 AM (GMT -7)   
The only thing my doctor said to never eat again is popcorn. And I'm sure it's a matter of opinion. But I was never much into popcorn so it was big deal for me. I got a colostomy in '89 which was turned into an ileostomy in '04. Other than popcorn I eat anything I want. I've never had a blockage. Just eat a little slower and chew your food very well. One ET told me when eating strawberries to take a razor blade and cut off all the little black seeds on it. Man, you've got to really like strawberries to be willing to do that. I didn't take her advice very seriously and eat strawberries the old fashioned way. Again, just chew well.

awesomeame
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   Posted 2/26/2007 7:48 PM (GMT -7)   
i tried my first bit of fiber today, in the form of two slices of rye bread. 6hrs later i got two bags full of liquid something. guess i'll be sticking to the "enriched" grains..((rolleyes))

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


vette guy
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   Posted 2/26/2007 10:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Matt- I moved from New York to Atlanta last year, and I would kill for 2 slices of really good rye bread. It's a great place to live, but I don't think anyone ever moved here for the cuisine, lol. Seriously, I noticed the same thing shortly after my surgery after having 2 slices of pizza(I can't get any good pizza here either !). Don't worry, that will get better. Your small intestine will "learn" to do some of what your large intestine used to. Eventually, you'll have more of a toothpaste like output.
As Shaz said, introduce new foods slowly to see what the culprit is. And BTW, I had no problem with rye bread,mmmmm rye bread. Maybe it's just a little too soon to tell what may or may not give you a watery stool.
 
 

surviving surgery
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   Posted 3/2/2007 5:48 AM (GMT -7)   
I tried peas and they really make you go. So I stay away from them.
The first time I tried bread it was a watery, but eventually it got different.
Im at 10 weeks now and have a good variety of food, yougurt, pbj/crackers and cheese/crackers, scrambled eggs, v8 juice grape juice. Fish and me are a no, but I tolerate hamburger if it is finely cooked.

Im new at this to so I just keep taking it slow for now and add one thing a week to my aganda of food intake.

Well God Bless, hope you all are feeling fine.

Shaz032
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   Posted 3/2/2007 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Just wondering, do people really stay away from foods that make their output watery? I have to say that whether foods make it watery or toothpaste like, I don't really care, I just go with the flow, so to speak. Some foods make output watery, some make it thicker, that's just life. I'm not prepared to give up a certain food just cos it makes my output watery, or maybe that's just me. Thankfully, I've never had a blockage so I don't have to worry on that account but it just seems to me that a lot of people put a lot of effort into trying to thicken up their stool when I can't see any reason why they have to.
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vette guy
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   Posted 3/2/2007 10:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Shaz- I'm pretty much in agreement with you. The only thing I don't eat is popcorn because several ostomates have told me it can easily cause a blockage. Otherwise I eat anything I want, and don't care too much about the output. I never regulate my diet in order to attempt to control the consistency of stool output. But that's just me. The only thing I do consider is when I eat, or should I say when I delay eating.  For instance, if I know I will be giving a presentation during a board meeting I will obstain from eating the hour before. I'd be too consumed with what I'm discussing and don't want to be bothered with thinking of my ostomy or needing to empty it.
I did order some free samples of Gel Tabs from Edgepark. I was curious what they do. But that's the extent I'll go. 

awesomeame
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   Posted 3/5/2007 11:04 AM (GMT -7)   
the reason i don't want it watery-you can fill your pouch 3-4" with pasty output, or 1" of liquid. liquid weighs more, so you have to empty more. also it seems i have more output when it's watery. combine those two and i'm emptying like 14x a day..but make it pasty and i'm down to emptying a max 8x a day. just my view on it

i've noticed protein makes me watery. BUT, when combined with startchy foods like potatos, i get a paste. so if i'm going to eat 3 chicken breasts, i'll throw a baked potato in there too, and i have output that i like. like? haha

--matt
Dec 2006: Proctocolectomy/permanent ileostomy
Since 1991: Indeterminate crohn's/ulserative colitis


San's
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   Posted 3/7/2007 3:32 PM (GMT -7)   

Hi Surviving Surgery,

  I am nine months into my colostomy,and have only found a couple of things in the food line that I can not eat or bothers me.I was eating some ice cream at Diary Queen one evening and found nuts in the ice cream and which were not supposed to be in it,because it was just plain Vannila.That put me into really bad cramps about an hour later.Then when it comes to vegatables,the only thing that I eat that is gassy is green beans.That is my favorite vegatable.Other then that I stay away from all other gassy foods.From what I have heard and read on the Internet,every one is different.It is just an error and a trial as to what each one of us can and can not eat.Just keep trying different things one a time and see what happens.You may also find that later on,you may be able to have peas and have no problem.Don't give up on the food that you like.

                                                                    San's

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