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peggy113
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   Posted 10/19/2007 5:57 PM (GMT -7)   
I am shouting out a request for the phone numbers for Hollister and Coloplast to request some samples.... I know that they were posted on one of these threads, but I haven't found them yet.
 
Also --- if I have only ever worn Convatec Surfit 2 pc. appliances, what would be a good equivalent thru Hollister and Coloplast?  ... don't forget, I have an Ileostomy.  And why would you think one over the other is better?  Remind me.. are the convex inserts universal?
 
I'm still not satified with wear time  so I guess I will do some experimenting.  Wish I didn't have to cuz it's the unknown!  I also picked up some more Eakin seals to try when I change over the weekend.....  like a scientist experimenting with wafers and seals and barriers.... right Amey?!!!
 
Thanks for your input again yeah
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


Shaz032
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   Posted 10/20/2007 12:18 AM (GMT -7)   
You can visit their websites (and get their phone numbers from there). You can even order samples directly from their sites.

http://www.coloplast.com
http://www.hollister.com
http://www.convatec.com

Good luck.


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Amey
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   Posted 10/20/2007 6:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Peggy,

Just make sure that what ever product you choose to try is made with some type of extended wear product....Convatec has stomahesive (standard wear) wafers and durahesive wafers (extended wear). Hollister uses flextend as their extended wear and I do not know about Coloplast. I do know that Coloplast Assura model is made with thier extended materials.

Here is the link to Convatec's Durahesive Sur-fit wavers http://www.convatec.com/convatec/jsp/CVTOnlineProductCatalog.do?catPathId=US_Product_Catalog/US_Consumer/Ostomy_Care/By_Brand/Two_Piece_Ostomy_Systems/SUR_FIT_AutoLock_Two_Piece_Ostomy_System/Skin_Barrier_Wafer_Options/Durahesive_Skin_Barriers_Wafers&channelId=null&audience=Consumer&lang=en&country=US

I would try these if I could. But I am highly allergic to Convatec. I will say that I used the Convatec Durahesive Moldables and I was very impressed. I wore it for 4 days with no paste, seal, or insert. I wish I could have stayed with them.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
Zelnorm, Colace, Motilium, Citrate of Magnesium, Nexium, Amitiza, Potassium, Magnesium, Miralax, Milk of Magnesium, Corgard, Glycerin Suppositories, Sorbitol, Bentyl, Senokot


peggy113
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   Posted 10/20/2007 8:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Amey and Shaz. I will do some homework this week and call these companies to request samples. I just wanted
to know what I was talking about when I call them. Like which of their products are best for an ever-functioning ileostomy
vs. a colostomy that doesn't "run" all the time.

I always thought, If it's not broke - why fix it?! Well this wear time issue is aging ---breaking me!! Only because I haven't
had to experience it like this before. I will trudge on... I will conquer!!

Thanks for you input, and I welcome any and all other comments or suggestions anyone else may have.
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


Amey
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   Posted 10/20/2007 9:14 AM (GMT -7)   
Peggy,

How much time are you getting out of your wafer? I am very happy that mine has lasted 4.5 days. I know that you use to get more time out of your wafers and now your not. That must be very frustrating. However, something has to be affecting your wafer. What is the variable and what is the control? The conrol is everything that is constant (has stayed the same). Your bags are the same, temp is same, diet is same, stoma is same, ect. So then what is the variable (what has changed)? Are your hormones different? Is your climate different? Anything else differnt? Through trial and error process, you may be able to solve the problem.

PS. I love Science!
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
Zelnorm, Colace, Motilium, Citrate of Magnesium, Nexium, Amitiza, Potassium, Magnesium, Miralax, Milk of Magnesium, Corgard, Glycerin Suppositories, Sorbitol, Bentyl, Senokot


peggy113
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   Posted 10/20/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -7)   

Oh Amey - you have certainly asked the million dollar question!  I cannot tell you how many times I have asked myself that very question -what has changed??  Here is what I have come up with:

  I began drinking cranberry/black cherry juice mixed with water  -  went thru "withdrawals", but ruled this out!

  The other thing that has changed is that we began building our house in July -  stress has increased. Can't imagine that this would cause a problem.  Yeh, I am doing some physical work there, but even when I took time off from the physical stuff, my wear time has not improved.

  No new drugs - except just last week I began a new rx for Vit D.  2nd dose tonight.  (sleepless night forthcoming like last Sat night?)

Here's my only other thought... maybe my stoma has changed when it is functioning --- never really noticed it before cuz I always have my bag on.  And out of ignorance, never paid that much attention to it before.    Could that be?  But my only problem area is directly around the stoma, NOT the whole wafer.  So, I'm thinking it has to be directly related to stoma function....  or the stool itself.    With regards to hormones - I had a complete hysterectomy back in 1986 - HRT has been the same for several years.    Some other "constants": same car/same seatbelt; same job/ same activities; same mattress/same sleeping surface; same sofa/same napping location!

Great ideas ---   And I have tried to think about the problem same as you.  But what am I missing?  The only thing I can think of is that I am eating more; therefore, more stoma functioning and maybe it has changed when it functions just enough to cause these problems.  

You are right.  I was used to 5-7 with a wafer and a small band of stomahesive paste.. That's all. No inserts, no Eakin seals, no skin barrier, nothing else.   That would be the root of my frustration.  I have always been pretty lucky with respect to wear time..   

So, Ames, what am I missing?   How's your wafer doing?  Are ya gonna make it thru your ride tomorrow- it is tomorrow, right?  Did you try Benadryl? 
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


Amey
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   Posted 10/20/2007 8:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Peggy,

I think I figured out a solution for you..assuming that your wafer time is directly related to the concept that you are eating more and therefore producing more, maybe you should stop eating and see how that works? LOL just kidding. Have you looked at your stoma size? My stoma changes sizes day-to-day. Some days it kinda bulges out more and other days it reverts back and gets smaller. I think the muscles contracts that take place in my small intestines affect my stoma and therefore my wafer as well. I pushed my bag to last me all through the day b/c I could not locate the new product I was going to try from Hollister. They came in the mail 3 days ago and I cannot find them! However your email reminded me that I had a Coloplast Assura Latex Free sample sitting in my closet. So I put that on tonight. I used it with the Eakin and a little paste. My inserts are too large for this wafer so I will be interested to see what happens. My Hollister wafer lasted 4.5 days. If the Coloplast lasts longer then I am sold!

Thanks for asking about me. My bag held up well on my bike ride. I will see how the Coloplast holds up on tomorrow's ride.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
Zelnorm, Colace, Motilium, Citrate of Magnesium, Nexium, Amitiza, Potassium, Magnesium, Miralax, Milk of Magnesium, Corgard, Glycerin Suppositories, Sorbitol, Bentyl, Senokot


peggy113
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   Posted 10/21/2007 12:10 AM (GMT -7)   
Yep you are right about the stoma changing sizes with function --- always has. But, what I try to do is cut the
opening the size of the stoma "at rest", which is just a smidget under the 3/4" all the way around it. It is totally
round - not oblong or uneven on any sides. No problems there. I kinda like the eating thing. LOL Since my gastric
ulcer has healed, I really kinda like this eating thing. No discomfort in stomach or intestine now!

Good thought tho... any other ideas?

Good luck on your Sunday ride. Glad to hear you were able to push your bag until tonight. That's good!
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 

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