Flushing your stoma with water...Has anyone ever heard of this?

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Amey
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   Posted 10/24/2007 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
I talked to my Dr today and explained to him a little about some of the discomforts that I have been experiencing since my surgery - not that I am complaining - I feel much better now that I am on a bag.  However, I do notice that a couple hours after I eat my stomach gets very hard and distended.  Then, over a couple more hours, my bag will slowly fill and my stomach will go back down.  I asked my Dr if there is anything I can do to help this discomfort.  He explained to me that I can "flush my ostomy" with water.  He said I can put a catheter up my stoma and flush my stoma with water.  This will evacuate anything in my immediate intestines.  He said to talk to my ostomy nurse about this so I left her a voice message. 
 
So, now I am posting this here...has anyone ever heard of such a thing as "flushing your ostomy?"
 
 
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Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/24/2007 5:28 PM (GMT -7)   
Amey,
I've heard of irrigating a colostomy, but I've never heard of doing it with an ileostomy. Let us know what you find out.
Dx'd w/ Crohn's in '99 at age 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06.
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justjenjen
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   Posted 10/24/2007 6:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Okay, please don't comment on what a horrible patient I am but...I pretty much refuse to due liquid prep before tests and surgery. I just use ducolax pills and lots of water. Well, the first time I tried it I was paranoid and I just happen to have an old enema in the linen closet. I just put the large tip up in my bag and into my stoma a squirted it in. It worked like a charm. All forms of loveliness came pouring out. I realize water is not the same as the enema I used but I had no problems or ill effects caused by it. And my docs never knew just how naughty I was!

Shaz032
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   Posted 10/24/2007 6:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Like flchurchlady, I've heard of using water to irrigate a colostomy but irrigation should not be done for an ileostomy. Maybe your doctor was thinking you had a colostomy?

Let us know what the stoma nurse says.
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/24/2007 8:32 PM (GMT -7)   
Jen,
I am laughing so hard at the image of you using an enema on your stoma!! tongue You are so sneaky, and I commend you on your bravery!

Amey
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   Posted 10/25/2007 6:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Jen,

You are very brave to attempt this on your own! Wow, I am impressed! I am still not willing to attempt this but I feel better knowing someone else has done it. Your post said that you "just put the large tip up in my bag and into my stoma a squirted it in." What do you mean by "large tip up in my bag"? Wouldn't you remove the bag in order to put the enema in your stoma? Also, did this hurt?

Shaz,

My Dr knows I have an ileostomy. We talked about that in detail on the phone. He has suggested that I try this little "cleaning out" process before I go to work at the gym. He said he knows many people who clean themselves out at night so they can sleep through the night or clean themselves out in the morning before they go to work. I asked him if this was a bad habit to get into and he said, "No it's fine."
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
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justjenjen
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   Posted 10/25/2007 6:44 AM (GMT -7)   
The large tip is the one that comes on the enema bottle. I left the bag on to catch all the poo. I squirted the stuff in, put the clip back on, and voila! No, it did not hurt.

Shaz032
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   Posted 10/25/2007 7:11 AM (GMT -7)   
Amey, please check with your stoma nurse first. I've never heard of ileostomates doing that and I've been chatting with all sorts of ostomates for over 10 years on the web. I'm not saying it can't be done, just that I've never heard of it being done. In fact, I would venture to say it could dehydrate you if you're not careful. A stoma nurse would know better than a doctor if it's a viable option for you.

Good luck and Take care.
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Amey
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   Posted 10/25/2007 7:27 AM (GMT -7)   
Ok Jen..I just tried this. I have many enema bottles laying around from the "good ole' days" so I attempted to see what would happen.

Here are a couple things I learned (1) Stoma are attached to the body at an angle. You cannot place the tip of the enema in your stoma unless you find out which angle your stoma faces. I did not insert the entire tip...just a little less than 1/2. (2) Water pressure tends to build up and pushes against the enema forcing contents to come out of the stoma even while the enema is in place. I inserted a little water at a time because the pressure kept building up and contents kept shooting out!

Ok, the stoma nurse just called me. There is an irrigation kit for this purpose. It is called Visi-Flow Irrigation Starter Kit (Edgepark Catalog pg15). This is usually NOT done by people who have an ileostomy. The purpose of using the kit is so that someone DOES NOT have to wear a pouch. Colostomy mates can use this sytem in the morning and then go to work without a bag on! She said I could do this once a day or night without any problems but I should try to pick the same time of day or night. I am to mix 250CC warm water w/ 1tsp salt in the irrigation kit and then flush out my stoma.

I have one more question...does this mean my stoma is not a virgin anymore? LOL just kidding~
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/25/2007 4:13 PM (GMT -7)   
I just covered my little stoma's virgin eyes!! She doesn't need to be exposed to this kind of promiscuous activity!! tongue

peggy113
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   Posted 10/25/2007 7:40 PM (GMT -7)   

Oh, C, you crack me up!  A little kinky here.... !!  LOL

 


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Amey
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   Posted 10/25/2007 7:48 PM (GMT -7)   
Cecilia...I just held a ceremony for my stoma and the enema bottle..."Do you stoma take the enema bottle to be your lawfully wedded husband..." All parties were in mutual agreement :o) I feel much better now <<Giggle>>
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
Zelnorm, Colace, Motilium, Citrate of Magnesium, Nexium, Amitiza, Potassium, Magnesium, Miralax, Milk of Magnesium, Corgard, Glycerin Suppositories, Sorbitol, Bentyl, Senokot


peggy113
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   Posted 10/25/2007 7:49 PM (GMT -7)   
OK you two -- either you ARE really funny, or I'm loopy from the pain meds!

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Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 10/26/2007 2:29 AM (GMT -7)   
Amey... don't forget to make a wedding cake for the happily married couple ~
(Main ingredients: powder, spray, paste, seal, insert, wafer) :-)

justjenjen
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   Posted 10/26/2007 9:27 AM (GMT -7)   
well, i think that is great if you can do irrigation. with crohns' is was not an option--boo!
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