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Ash83
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   Posted 11/24/2007 9:45 PM (GMT -7)   
I've noticed a lot of members have mentioned that they rinse their bags out with every change or often throughout the day. Is this typical? I've never rinsed my bag, or really thought about doing it for that matter.
 
For those of you that DO rinse, why do you do it? When did you start doing it? What are the pros of doing it?

Shaz032
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   Posted 11/24/2007 10:56 PM (GMT -7)   
I never rinse my bag because with an ileostomy, it's only going to get dirty again 2 minutes later so it's a wasted exercise really lol Besides which, I never rinsed my colon out when I had one :)
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peggy113
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   Posted 11/24/2007 11:07 PM (GMT -7)   

Well Ash, you mentioned in your other post, that your output is mostly liquid.  So when you empty your bag, there is probably little to no stool left behind?  Most of the time, mine is like that as well.  Sometimes it isn't.  Like with your pasta experience.  That is when rinsing comes in handy for me.  Since I only change my bag when I change the wafer (and I am back at about 7 days wear time now), I like to keep it rinsed.  Usually only a couple of times a day is all it takes for me since I am more of the watery type.  (And I usually rinse only when I am at home -- first thing in the morning to start fresh!, then again sometime throughout the day if it needs it, and usually before I go to bed.)

Some folks don't "rinse".  I think it is a personal preference.  I believe that if you have what Shaz referred to as "pancaking" - where the stool kind hangs out right around the stoma at the top of the bag - it may cause the "itchies" a little sooner since the stool doesn't drop away from the opening around the stoma.  And that seems to be where my wafer wears away the quickest.  Tho rinsing also adds liquid to that area, it helps to remove the stool that seems to be the culprit of the wafer degradation.

Again, this is just a personal preference.  I'm sure others have their own routines.  I'm hoping they will share their's too.


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peggy113
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   Posted 11/24/2007 11:44 PM (GMT -7)   
SORRY!! I better go to bed now before I screw up again!!

Hope someone is able to give you some good info... lol
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
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vette guy
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   Posted 11/25/2007 1:07 AM (GMT -7)   
When I had a colostomy I would rinse it out with water and deoderant from time to time. But now that I have an ileostomy I don't bother. Like Shaz said, it's only get dirty 2 minutes later anyway. And, though I know some of you take steps to keep your pouch dry in the shower, I always give it a good cleaning(on the outside) when I'm taking a shower.

Amey
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   Posted 11/25/2007 11:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Ash,

My contents are always very thick and annoying slow to move through my stoma. It takes hours for stuff to pass and it drives me crazy. I always rinse my bag out with a bottle of water because I cannot stand having any puffiness to my bag and I have to rinse it to get it to lay flat under my pants. Plus, it makes me feel cleaner...dont ask me how or way...it just does. I even have to clean my stoma when I empty my bag because of content build-up. For most people this does not make any sense because their bag is just going to fill again in an hour. However, for me, my bag only get some contents a couple times a day. I rarely have anything in my bag so having contents or a stoma packed with poop drives me crazy.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
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summerstorm
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   Posted 11/25/2007 10:12 PM (GMT -7)   
i'm not sure i actually rinse mine, i just use a water bottle to help clean out the tail, if hte stuff is really sticky i will put a little water in there and slosh it around, but i dont' take the bag off or anthing
 
 
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awesomeame
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   Posted 11/26/2007 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   

rinse, do you mean actually removing the bag from the flange?  i'm doing the same as summerstorm, just spray some water in there to help empty it...i do that for every empty-ing.

for people that don't use water, do you just use TP to clean the neck of the bag?  do you clean it at all??

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Amey
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   Posted 11/26/2007 9:10 AM (GMT -7)   
I just put water in through the bottom of my bag and swish it around.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
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sfgiantsjo
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   Posted 11/26/2007 9:46 AM (GMT -7)   
I also use baby wipes. I only use water if I feel like someone may see the bag - like before a Doctor's appointment, or before "bed time" with hubby. (Hee, Hee) And I know the doctor could care less, but it makes ME feel more comfortable.
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peggy113
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   Posted 11/26/2007 11:36 AM (GMT -7)   
I don't remove my bag to rinse, just pour water in the tail end and swish around. Dry with tp. And like I said, I only do this a couple of times a day, morning and night for sure. Make me feel better!
Peggy
      
Diagnosed with CD in 1979, many resections and meds
Perm Ileostomy July 1984 at Cleveland Clinic
Disease free since surgery 
 


Amey
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   Posted 11/26/2007 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
Peggy,

That is exactly what I do...I guess were two peas in a pod!
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
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Indabag
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   Posted 11/26/2007 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Ash

I'm glad you asked the question. I always wondered what others did. Now I know. That's the beauty of this forum! By the way, since I have an ileostomy, I feel the same way as Shaz.

Richard
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Amey
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   Posted 11/26/2007 2:35 PM (GMT -7)   
Ash,

Quick question....Is your stool thick and slow like mine? Does it take hours for your stoma to work after you eat or does it work pretty quickly?

I am just trying to detemine if I am the lone-ostomy mate with a slow stoma and thick stools.
Amey
 
 
Ileostomy 8/2007
Revised Coletomy/ Reset Anastimosis 2006
Revised Colectomy/ Obstructions 2005
Sub-total Colectomy 2001
 
Prov. 16: 20 Whoso trusteth in the Lord, happy is he.
 
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flchurchlady
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   Posted 11/26/2007 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
I just wipe the end really well with TP, put in some hydrogen peroxide as a deodorizer, and I'm on my way.
Dx'd w/ Crohn's in '99 at age 28. Proctocolectomy and ileostomy in '06. In remission since surgery.
Pain-free, med-free, and very thankful to be healthy again :)


summerstorm
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   Posted 11/26/2007 9:45 PM (GMT -7)   
mine is usually pretty thick amey, not liquidy except in the morning or if i haven't eaten much.
 
 
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candyland
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   Posted 11/26/2007 10:02 PM (GMT -7)   
Mine is almost always liquidy and depending on what I ate, it has little chunks in it. That's why it freaked me out the other night when it was very thick and "pancaked" around the stoma. But it goes through very fast - even when it's thick. I was still eating and it was piling up in there! I don't carry a water bottle around with me, but clean constantly at home. It seems to get the little chunks out from around the stoma and helps the itchies.

Ohio43
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   Posted 11/27/2007 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
I rinse every single time I drain it which is about every two to three hours. What a drag it is. Just habit and my obsessive compulsiveness, I guess. I'm big on clean, clean, clean!

Tom1
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   Posted 11/29/2007 2:59 PM (GMT -7)   
I drink lots and lots of Gatorade to help keep my output flowing.  When I'm home I rinse every time I empty and I use Hollister M-9 deodorant drops. 
 
I am on the road most days so that rinsing has to wait until I get back home.  When I do come in from the road, I will use the M-9 drops "before" emptying and rinsing.  I may be overusing the M-9, but Hollister love me.
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