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Paul1959
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   Posted 2/6/2008 9:06 AM (GMT -7)   
My family has just booked a cruise on the Queen Mary. It's the least I could do for my wife so that she is someplace where SHE will be taken care of.  My continency is getting better every week, but I can't count on it being gone in a month.
 
What do you guys do when faced with the dilemma of playing with your kids in the pool and still wearing a pad?  Just kegel like crazy till you get in the water, then change right when you get out?  I hate to not have the memories of doing all the familiy things just cause of this stupid surgery.  I know for many of you, your kids are long gone, but I still have a 7 yr old and a 14 yr old.
 
any thoughts?  Hints?
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


kdnole
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Total Posts : 152
   Posted 2/6/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -7)   
I swam with my kid's last year even though I was leaking just a bit, and I went with out a pad. I figured not much was coming out and I would visited the bathroom more than normal, but then again I was drinking some beer too. Now if it were the ocean I couldn't care less.
Age 44
PSA 4.8
Gleason 3+3=6
T2
Biopsy - 3 of 12 (2@20% / 1@80%
Da Vinci 7/31/07 @ Duke
2.5 hr. surgery, released from Duke with in 14 hrs.
Saved both nerve bundles. 
Foley out 8/10/08
Positive Pathology Report 
Near left side nerve bundle
New Gleason 7
Oncology visit in the near future for radiation
Back to work 3 weeks following surgery - Sales
 
9/13/07 - 1 Post PSA Undetectable less than 0.1 
 
9/17/07 - Pad Free! 
 
10/11/07 - ED, Trimix injection .2cc Tooo much but it worked. Now on .05cc, 3 times a week
No luck with viagra or pump. 
 
11/19/07 - 5 mth. PSA 0.1 (Ouch)
02/11/08 - Scheduled for CT Scan and MRI
Radiation treatments to start at the end of Feb. (6 weeks, 5 days a week)  


PianoMan
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   Posted 2/6/2008 2:55 PM (GMT -7)   
How about wearing a condom while you're in the pool?  If your leakage is reasonably low, maybe that would do it?
Anyone else ever tried that? 

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07


James C.
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   Posted 2/6/2008 3:07 PM (GMT -7)   
A possibility other than nothing or a condom is a constricting band of some sort, just enough to stop the leak or a penis ring from the pump kit?  It would need to be loosened each half hour or so, but might be a method, if you really have to control it somehow.  I'd tend to try to ignore any minor drips. 

PianoMan
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   Posted 2/6/2008 3:11 PM (GMT -7)   
MAN -- WHEN I INVITE YOU THREE GUYS TO A BARBECUE AT MY HOUSE SOME DAY, YOU'RE ALL BANNED FROM THE POOL!!!


D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

Post Edited (PianoMan) : 2/6/2008 3:34:53 PM (GMT-7)


StrictlyInc
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   Posted 2/6/2008 4:04 PM (GMT -7)   
PianoMan said...
MAN -- WHEN I INVITE YOU THREE GUYS TO A BARBECUE AT MY HOUSE SOME DAY, YOU'RE ALL BANNED FROM THE POOL!!!


Hahaha, add me to the ban list too, I guess... eyes

I'm at one pad a day. I don't worry about it at this point. That's what chlorine is for, right? From the horror stories I've heard from people that *have* control, I think a little leak here or there from one of us is just a drop in the bucket, so to speak.

I think it's a bigger problem getting in the pool, and then remembering that you are wearing a pad, which fills up and is then weighing about 5 pounds and making you look a little odd. Trying to discreetly remove that is a challenge - I thought that was what this thread was going to be about... scool
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .667 (10 for 15)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 15 for 28 = .536

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Paul1959
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   Posted 2/6/2008 7:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hahaha. you guys make me laugh. i was bummed when I wrote this this morning. Thanks. I am down to one or two pads a day, but it's those surprise squirts that get you everytime! I am not so worried about the pee in the ship's pool - urine is sterile and there is cholorine...but my nightmare is that I will get out of the pool, lie on a deck chair for a bit, the suit dries out, I stand up and BINGO the whole deck knows I just peed my pants! Aughhh! Or after I get out of the water, I could just stuff a pad down my suit and get arrested for playing with myself in public....the possibilities are endless.
You're right, the 5 pound pad hanging there....gee, I could be like BOB from the Enzyte ads...they might be really impressed with a 5 pound bundle between my legs!
the condom thing is not a bad idea...hahah what do you tell the kids when it slips off and is floating around??!!!??! There is no dignity with all this.

I suppose I will be in the water until I can't take it anymore. Then I'll get out, go change and hang around fully dressed...I'll make believe I'm a fashionista who has to be the height of dress at all times and can't bear being so vulgar as to sit around in a bathing suit. Think they'll buy it?
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


Big one
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   Posted 2/6/2008 8:11 PM (GMT -7)   
Hi Paul,

That's why women wear a sarong or wrap around their hips. It camouflages a lot of defects. You may start a new trend for men!
Lili
Mo & Lili in Ohio
Age 57
Prostate size 116 grams
Diagnosed 1/25/08 , DRE negatif, PSA 5.7
Gleason 3+3
3 out of 12 samples 10%, 20%, 40%.
Bone scan negative, ct scan maybe some lymph node
 


kw
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   Posted 2/6/2008 8:47 PM (GMT -7)   

    I would not even know what I would do?  My luck they would have the chemical that reacts to urine and I would have a blue cloud all around me.  Of course I would have more than a dribble goin on.

    Good Luck comming up with a answer.

    KW


    43
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second
    opinion Doctor at OU Medical Center Bio-Feedback training,   
    Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day).
    Feb. 4th, 2008 - Appointment with Original Dr. to discuss options and recomendation for
    surgical fix for incontinance.
 
     


Swimom
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   Posted 2/6/2008 9:46 PM (GMT -7)   
LOL...I used to tell the all the kids the water would turn purple if they peed in the pool...
 


StrictlyInc
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Total Posts : 353
   Posted 2/7/2008 1:15 AM (GMT -7)   
On the serious side... dark shorts are key.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .667 (10 for 15)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 15 for 28 = .536

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 2/7/2008 8:17 AM (GMT -7)   
With one of those luxurious robes...

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
 
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!


wd40
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Total Posts : 218
   Posted 2/7/2008 8:27 AM (GMT -7)   
First, I will not let my wife read your post. Queen Mary of all things. Are trying to ruin the rest of us. LOL

Second, walk, walk, walk, and maybe you will out of those pads.

Third, you want be the only one peeing in the pool.
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.
Walked a lot
90% control the day the catherter removed.
pad only for a sneeze before the week was out
No pads most of the second week.


Mike A
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 213
   Posted 2/7/2008 8:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Paul,
I just got back from a 5 day cruise and had to deal with that very same problem. What I did was wait until just before I went to the pool, I urinated out as much as possible, then put on my suit (with no pad) and headed for the pool carrying a towel (just in case). Once at the pool I dropped the towel on a chair, and got in the water immediately. When I got out I was able to put a good 20-30 minutes or so in the chair, before my suit dried enough so that I was hopping in the pool again. After an hour or so of this, I wrapped the towel around my waist and found the nearest men's room. I found that by repeating this process I was able to spend several enjoyable hours at the pool, and not be worried about showing any leaks. It was not uncommon to see many people at the pool area with towels around their waists, and certainly that would cover the problem.I never thought about a dark bathing suit, but it makes good sense.
On the catamaran side trip we took, it was more of a challenge. For that day I stayed in my clothes until it was time to snorkel and afterwards, I changed back into my clothes for the return trip. I made sure before booking the trip that there would be a changing room or restroom onboard. Good Luck!
Best,
Mike

btw, One time on a business trip, the hotel manager came to me and told me he was kicking out one of my engineers out of the pool area for urinating in the pool. Pointing to the large number of kids splashing around in the water, I asked him if he really thought that no one had ever urinated in the pool before. "Of course," he replied, "but not off the diving board."
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist November 2005 - Biopsy negative July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1 November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear. February 2007 - Three to fo ur pads a day, no erection with viagara. April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02. Down to one pad a day.July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 No change in ED. October, 2007 - Nine Month Post-op: PSA back down to 0.02!Almost totally dry! Only slight improvement in ED - Will try injections if not improved by next appointment. January 2008: One Year Post-OP PSA 0.02 still dripping, but improving. Tried 500 dose of MUSE for ED, no luck. Will try 1000.


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 2/7/2008 10:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Hey Paul,
Just tie a knot in it! Problem solved! No, I think you'll be fine w/ a big beach towel, preferably a real colorful one. No one will know a thing even if you start dripping. I sure wish I was going along!!!
Your friend,
Pete
54 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. Testosterone Theropy since 12/06. I am's what I am and that's all that I am!!! 


Paul1959
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   Posted 2/7/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -7)   
Mike,
that's a great story... And a good idea on the technique. I would LOVE To be dry by then...it's not out of the question.

BTW - this is our first ever cruise and i was amazed at how inexpensive it was. For two stateroom is 1300 per person for a ten night/eleven day trip. So, for 5600 bucks, we have everything taken care of. We often go to Florida for spring break to visit family. With airfare, car rental and accomodations, it is usually 3000-4000 and that is no food.

But for all the bargains.. my wife now has to buy dresses and stuff for the formal nights. We are really excited. thank god for viagra.
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


wd40
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Total Posts : 218
   Posted 2/7/2008 12:16 PM (GMT -7)   
You will be hooked. Going on a cruise on a good ship is just a ton of fun. Enjoy!
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.
Walked a lot
90% control the day the catherter removed.
pad only for a sneeze before the week was out
No pads most of the second week.


Mike A
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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 213
   Posted 2/7/2008 3:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Yes Paul,
Cruising is a great bargain, and you will get hooked. We went on our first in 1989 and said it was a "once in a lifetime" thing. The cruise we took last week was our eighth (with a family reunion cruise planned for next year). Don't forget at least one morning to get up early, go out on deck, and watch the sun come up! My guess is you will be nearly dry by March! Have fun and don't worry!
Best,
Mike
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist November 2005 - Biopsy negative July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1 November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear. February 2007 - Three to fo ur pads a day, no erection with viagara. April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02. Down to one pad a day.July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 No change in ED. October, 2007 - Nine Month Post-op: PSA back down to 0.02!Almost totally dry! Only slight improvement in ED - Will try injections if not improved by next appointment. January 2008: One Year Post-OP PSA 0.02 still dripping, but improving. Tried 500 dose of MUSE for ED, no luck. Will try 1000.


kw
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   Posted 2/8/2008 8:15 PM (GMT -7)   
We are taking a Alaskan Cruise in June. I have decided to have the "Sling" surgery done on Feb. 22nd. There is no way I could cover up or deal with the ammount of leaking I have now. I will let you know how my surgery goes on KW's Journey.

Good Luck.
KW
    43
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second opinion Doctor at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 4th, 2008 - Appointment with Original Dr. to discuss options and recomendation for surgical fix for incontinance.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AdVance Sling.
 
     


Paul1959
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   Posted 2/8/2008 9:12 PM (GMT -7)   
I have a friend in my support group who had it done. had been leaking for five years. He was 100% almost immediately.
Good decision...and good luck. It will be great.
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage 2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
 
 


bluebird
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   Posted 2/9/2008 9:45 AM (GMT -7)   
  tongue Hey ~ Paul,

Happy Cruising and Swimming!!!

Have fun and enjoy.... 

Hugs from Lee

 

 

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