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lifeguyd
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Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 664
   Posted 2/13/2008 7:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Biopsy 10/16/06
T2A,  PSA 4.7
Gleason 4+4=8 right side
adrenocarcinoma of prostate
DaVinci Surgery 01/16/07
Post op report,confirms Gleason4+4=8 , no extra extension or invasion
No continence problems
PSA results 90 day (-.01) 6 months (-.01) 9 months (+.02)
PSA one year (+.02)
Using Caverject/viagra for continuing ED problems (one year)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


mvesr
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Total Posts : 823
   Posted 2/13/2008 8:10 PM (GMT -7)   
I was not willing to take that chance


Mika
age at dx 54 now 55
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
wear one for insurance now
ED still a problem
last PSA undetectable
 


kw
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 2/13/2008 8:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Well, at 43 I did not have much of a choice!

KW
    43
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second opinion Doctor at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 4th, 2008 - Appointment with Original Dr. to discuss options and recomendation for surgical fix for incontinance.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AdVance Sling.
 
     


myman
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   Posted 2/13/2008 8:33 PM (GMT -7)   
"Screening is recommended starting at age 45 for men with a family history of prostate cancer and for black men, because of their higher risk of the disease."

That's hard for me to believe that any responsible doctor would not recommend testing at 40 with family history and race factors. How many men do we have here between 40 and 50? Too many. Both of our sons (37 & 41) were tested without any hesitation by their physicians once they knew the family history.

Articles like that are so frustrating. Just like the fight for women to have mammograms, this will be the same. You'd think as a society we'd learn. Oh yes, I forgot...this cancer is the "one to get" if you're going to get any.

Geez...don't get me started!

Susan

Lifeguyd - you know how to get a discussion going! ;-)
Husband Diagnosed 11/17/05 Age: 63 PSA: 7.96 No Symptoms
2/09/06: LRP - Post Pathology - Gleason 4+3 Stage T2b NO MX
3 mo. PSA: 11.8 Stage T3a
6 mo. PSA: 18.8 Stage IV Systemic w/ distant lymph node involvement
Start HT - Lupron 3 mo. shots
12/06/06: PSA 0.8
03/07/07: PSA 0.3
06/06/07: PSA 0.1
09/05/07: PSA 0.1
11/27/07: PSA 0.1


Tim G
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   Posted 2/13/2008 9:11 PM (GMT -7)   
myman said...
"Screening is recommended starting at age 45 for men with a family history of prostate cancer and for black men, because of their higher risk of the disease."

That's hard for me to believe that any responsible doctor would not recommend testing at 40 with family history and race factors. How many men do we have here between 40 and 50? Too many. Both of our sons (37 & 41) were tested without any hesitation by their physicians once they knew the family history.

Articles like that are so frustrating. Just like the fight for women to have mammograms, this will be the same. You'd think as a society we'd learn. Oh yes, I forgot...this cancer is the "one to get" if you're going to get any.

Geez...don't get me started!

Susan

Lifeguyd - you know how to get a discussion going! ;-)

I couldn't agree more with you, Susan.  Leading urologists are beginning to recommend baseline testing for all men at age 40, regardless of family history or race. 
If the baseline PSA is below a cutoff value, the next test would be at age 45, then annually beginning at 50. If baseline values were above the minimum, testing would be done annually.
Newer, more specific tests may make the PSA test obsolete, but right now it is the best tool we have for early detection and possible cure.
 

Age 59 PSA 2.6 PSA velocity quadrupled in 1 yr 
1 of 12 biopsies positive (5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Cancer confined to one small area Gleason 5 
PSA's non-detectable


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 2/13/2008 9:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Watchful waiting IS a treatment option. But as the study says, I am younger and I have advanced prostate cancer. This option could have been fatal for me before I turned 50.

Tony


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
 
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STAY POSITIVE!

Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 2/13/2008 10:49:42 PM (GMT-7)


biker90
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   Posted 2/13/2008 9:26 PM (GMT -7)   
I watched my dad die with stage 4 PCa. He was in intense pain and was drugged all the time. It took 18 months. He was 81. I got diagnosed at 72 which was probably about his age when he got it. Only he never had a PSA test till it was too late.

Reports like this that imply that old guys aren't worth the effort just infuriate me. Doctors and others that do studies get so wrapped up in the numbers that they lose sight of the objective. So what if I die from something else in the time frame that they say would take PCa to go stage 4. I had cancer. I got rid of it in the most efficient manner available. I'd do it again in a minute...

Jim


Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."
 


myman
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   Posted 2/13/2008 9:37 PM (GMT -7)   
And I for one am so glad you did! :-)

mozart250
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Total Posts : 102
   Posted 2/14/2008 3:08 AM (GMT -7)   
Hmm..tell that to my dad who was about 75 when he had prostate cancer surgery.

He is now 83 and in wonderful health. His PSA tests have been all zeros since.
He will probably die at age 102.
52 Year Old DBA by profession; amateur pianist by passion.
 
June 2006:  PSA 4.6.  DRE prostate enlarged.  
Aug  2006:  Second opinion confirms first.  Biopsy suggested.
Sep  2006:  Biopsy results positive one lobe.  Gleason 3+3.
Nov  2006:  RPA performed at Fletcher Allen in Burlington VT.
Nov  2006:  Pathology report: Stage T3a and Gleason 3+4.
Dec  2006:  PSA 0.1
Feb, May  2007:  PSA 0.0 (under 0.1)
Aug, Nov  2007:  PSA 0.1
 
Trying my hand at blogging.


War-eagle
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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 219
   Posted 2/14/2008 5:40 AM (GMT -7)   

Where can I get some of those "rose colored glasses"? This monster is like walking through a mine field. I guess with those glasses on you can't see the danger.

As one who is fighting every day, trying everything just to live, I find this article distubing at the very least. So many here are working so hard to spread the word about early testing and proper care. How much damage does an article like is do? As for slow growth. I was tested at age 45, PSA great. Tested again at age 52, seek care PSA 42, Age 55 (soon) no cure.

Who here was in this survey..............anybody..............anybody..........? I thought so.

Well, we will spread the word and we will save lives. Wear the blue. Talk the talk and walk the walk.

Let's hear from everyone.

Love and War Eagle to all,

Walt 


Age: 54
PSA 43 7/2005
Biopsy 12/14 Gleason 7 & 9
Divinci 9/2005 - spread to bladder
HT - 10/2005 (Eligard every 6 months)
RT - 10/2005 (38 treatments)
PSA 0.12 to 1.9 2/2007
Bone Scan and CT 4/2007 Bone mets
Casodex 4/2007
Zometa infusions 4/2007
PSA 4.8 8/2007
PSA 6.34 12/2007
Radiation (15 treatments) started on bone mets 12/2007
PSA 6.72 1/2008
PSA 8.23 2/2008 - Starting prednisone for 30 days
 
 
"I will persist without exception - I will find a way where there is no way"


Bootheel
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 300
   Posted 2/17/2008 2:31 PM (GMT -7)   
Amen, I just had LRP 2 weeks ago and it was worst than the biopsy. Its worth the incontinence and impotence to me. I'm alive for my wife. There are artificial sphincters and implants for worst case scenarios. I was a walking time bomb. I'm 65 and very much alive. I think those articles serve the guys who want quality of life and are willing to gamble with their future rather than suffer a short term inconvenience.
Age 65
Diagnosed 10/12/07
PSA 6.3
Biopsy 18 core samples, 2 positive <5%
Stage T1a Gleason 6 (3+3)
LRP  1/29/08
Post-op
Gleason 7 (3+4)
1 positive margin (.3cm)
T2C 

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