estradiol increases with testosterone supplementation

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   Posted 2/24/2008 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello Biker,
Did you read my reply to you on Selmers 2/20/08  at 2:27 AM.---tread
My point was tro emphasize the fact  that gel testosterone, and testosterone shorts are considered the main culprit in increasing estradiol, because of the "blast Effect "  of this method.---while the patches or the testerone seed implants---do not cause this effect as badly;---but all tes  supplementation will create some estradiol and DHT.
As you know,  DIM plus B-6 and Zinz supplementation greatly helps in illiminating this problem.  And I thank swimmon  for her suggestions which led to my further research on this subject,
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   Posted 2/24/2008 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Yeah Ken, I started taking DIM (as per Swim's suggestion) after I started developing some symptoms of too much estradiol, mainly sore nipples and loss of energy. After a couple of weeks the symptoms went away. My testosterone shots every two weeks probably cause a "blast" but I don't notice any symptoms from that - never have in the 12 or so years I have been on TRT.

I just do whatever it takes to maintain a good quality life. Being older (but not yet ancient) that is more important to me than a few more years of life. Especially if it is a miserable existence. So far, so good...

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RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
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   Posted 2/24/2008 11:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Biker, Siberian

I'm not a Doc so make sure you guys do your homework and get a Physician's okay!!! Paul is on testosterone but, his original use of Indole/DIM was on the advise of our Physician. He (the Doc) suggested he use it because Paul has had 2 male hormone related cancers already. It puts him at a higher risk for male breast cancer thus, the idea to manage estradiol keeping it in the mid range. Keep in mind, low estradiol is not healthy either. Men need some just as women need "some" testosterone. Paul's original use was as a chemo prevention remedy. He has since started using testosterone.


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