Going to try injections for erection and hubby is convinced he can't give them to himself

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SeekingBliss
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   Posted 3/10/2008 10:46 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi everyone:
 
This is really the only place I know to go to ask these questions.  Hubby is going to see the urologist at the beginning of April for him to give him an injection of tri-mix (?) I think, to hopefully create an erection.  He is very apprehensive and is quite sure he will not be able to do this to himself.  Do many of your mates give you the injection?  or, is it really that big of a deal to give it to yourself once you know how?
 
I would love some insight.  The other thing he is wondering is how long the erections last after the injection.  This is definitely a whole new journey!  He continues to have some trouble with dripping.... Is he likely to drip more after the injection? 
 
Any thoughts would be helpful.
 
SeekingBliss
Husband Diagnosed:  September 2007
His Age: 61
       PSA: 20
Tumor: T2(b)
Radical Prostatectomy:  Oct 25, 2007
Gleason Score on pathology:  4 + 3 = 7
4 mo post op - Feb 13/08 PSA:  5.0
Starting hormone therapy:  March 2008
 


SeekingBliss
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   Posted 3/10/2008 10:50 AM (GMT -7)   

and by the way, my signature was wrong in the last post... his post op PSA was 2.3.. not 5.0... amazing the small victories we celebrate based on perspective.... normally you would dread a 2 and we now celebrate anything less than 2!

Happiness is a choice, hope is a choice, we continue to laugh and love!

SeekingBliss


Husband Diagnosed:  September 2007
His Age: 61
       PSA: 20
Tumor: T2(b)
Radical Prostatectomy:  Oct 25, 2007
Gleason Score on pathology:  4 + 3 = 7
4 mo post op - Feb 13/08 PSA:  2.3
Starting hormone therapy:  March 2008 - Zoladex
 
 


Ripandburn
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   Posted 3/10/2008 12:10 PM (GMT -7)   
Seekingbliss,

I have been injecting Bimix for several months now. I also was concerned initially about injecting myself. My wife is an RN, and I was going to have her do it for me, but I got brave and never let her. It is a very small needle that is used, and even though you will maybe worry about it, it is over with quickly. I can say that I have never used the trimix, but have heard that that there can be some pain after the injection. For me the Bimix is wonderful. It takes time to get the correct dosage, but with some experimentation you will get the right amount. Ask your Dr. for guidance initially. And , yes, the chemicals in the injection create the erection. As for how long the erections last....everyone is different. I initially started out with .5ml of the Bimix. That was too much. That erection lasted almost 3 hours, and scared me. Since that time, I have gotten it down to a .2ml dose. That lasts for about an hour. Almost a perfect time for both of us. As far as the dripping, I have been continent for quite some time, but even when I have an erection I may have some urine that will escape. I have found that not drinking a lot of fluids prior to intercourse helps.
52 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
PSA after 6 weeks <0.1 - undetectable
PSA after 4 month .07 - undetectable
11 weeks post-op - no more pads


Tamu
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   Posted 3/10/2008 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   
Seekingbliss,

I never even considered my wife giving me the injection. Actually, I feel more comfortable giving it as I am in control and know what to do. The pain is minimal. My flu shot hurt 10 times worse then a penile injection. As already mentioned the time that an erection will last is relative to the individual. When I first started I ramped up my Bimix dosage from .15 ml to .45 ml. After about .30 I did not get any firmer but the erection lasted longer. At .30 to .35 my erection lasts about an hour to an hour and a half. At .45 it was lasting nearly three hours. Just to note that while the injection gives an erection the penis will get firmer with stimulation so you cannot judge it by just the medication alone.

Tamu
Diagnosed 7/6/06, 1 of 10 core samples, 40%,Stage T1c, Gleason 3+3
Da Vinci on 11/01/06, Catheter out on 11/13/06
56 Years Old
Post Op Path, Gleason 3+3, Approx. 5% of prostate involved
Prostate Confined, margins clear
Undetectable PSA on 12/18/06, 6/25/07, 1/8/08
No more pads as of 1/13/07
Began injections in April '07
 


biker90
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   Posted 3/10/2008 2:17 PM (GMT -7)   
I have used Trimix for 7 months and it is easy to use and very satisfactory. I use .03 cc in a .5 cc diabetic syringe with a 5/16 inch 31 gauge needle. My uro started me with .1 cc which was way too much. I decreased the dose until I get an erection that lasts about 1 hour and causes not pain at all.

The shot itself is painless. It took a few tries to get the technique right. The uro/ED person will give him the proper instructions. We are all different and react differently to treatment so we have to experiment and find our own combination of things that help us get through this recovery. Every time I shoot myself in that most tender part I tell myself that although this is a hassle, I do know that the cancer is gone. Being on top of the grass is worth the bother...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."
 


James C.
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   Posted 3/10/2008 2:30 PM (GMT -7)   
I use Bimix, but the process is the same for both.  The Trimix is sometimes painful, with aching, because of the PGE1 drug, which isn't in the Bimix.  The other 2 chemicals are the same for both ones.  The PGE1 is the same drug as what is in Caverject, which is usally the first stop on the ED road for most Docs.  From what I read here, it will take less Trimix to accomplish the same thing as Bimix does.  Depending on how well your husband has done in recovery, and how skilled the surgeon is, it may take some experimenting to get the dose needed for a firm erection that lasts an hour or so that we all strive for. 
 
You should get a prescription for Trimix,  a 5ml vial is standard.  If it takes .5ml to get the perfect erection, then this is 10 doses in that 5ml vial.  Included in the prescription should be one for diabetic insulin syringes.  Most people use the 1cc, 31Ga, 1/2 or 5/16 long needle syringes.  Your Doc may vary, but try to keep the guage at 30 or above for comfort.  There should be 10 or 20 of them.  The prescription usually has to be sent to a compounding pharmacy.  The one I use includes 10 free syringes with the first order.  The pharmacy may be local for you, or you may have to either have the Doc or youself fax the prescription to the pharmacy, if you are having to get it by mail.  Here's a link to the list of Pharmacies that are used by Healing Well members:  http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=1017774
 
Now, down to the nitty gritty.  It took a lot of courage for me to lay that needle upside myself the first time, but I had been impotent long enough that I was willing to do any reasonable thing to finally get back to erections and the "manly" feeling we get from them, so this didn't seem unreasonable by then.  The dread was a lot worse than the act.  It was just a minor little sting, and has decreased with practice and use.  There's several links here that can take you to instruction sites, to show and teach you the technique of injecting yourself. 
 
There's currently 2 threads goin about Bimix, and injecting, acheiving firm erections and such.  Lots of good info there, if you have a basic understanding of the process.  Here's links to 2.
 
Hope this is some inof you/he can use.
 
 
 
 
James C. 
 
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Age 60 
4/19/07   PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7 06/05/07
7/11/07   Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07   Path report:  3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6. 
9/24/07   (Open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed 
9/26/07   Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07  ED- begin 25mg Viagra nightly, Fully continent
11/15/07  1st Post-surgery PSA-0.01
01/14/08  Caverject started/stopped, aching and pain , Bimix started
02/04/08  Bimix X 6 tries, .1mL, .15mL, .2mL, .3mL, .4mL, .5mL, success at .5mL
3/24/08   ED- 6 mts.-continue 50mg Viagra and pump-no change-no response


geon
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   Posted 3/10/2008 8:34 PM (GMT -7)   
yeah Seekingbliss,
Yes, it will take courage which is addressed by contemplating on why he will be doing this.  He does need this to help of Trimix bring both of you closer to one another.  Difficult?  No, only in the mind.  I faced it and moved on.  Experimenting with dosage will take  an effort and what will help I believe is to keep a continual record for each injection, date difficulty/success and then begin to zero in on what is right for both of you.  I praise the Trimix as it is the only erection that I can attain every three days.  The VED is OK for pump up for me but that is about it .  We love my erections and count on them.  Do I get one every time?  NO.  Sometimes you miss and suck it up and try another variety of sex in your soon to be developed bag of tricks.  My injections are about 99% successful.
 
I found that my right side was a little more painful to the injections and I wanted to get rid of that situation.  My PA told me to inject only on the left side.  This is a no-no.  One must not only alternate sides, but inject in the upper, middle lower part of the penis in rotation from injection to injection.  Thus the log book becomes important to remember where you were at last.  To aleviate my situation of pain on the penis right side, I purchased an BD auto-injector ($18.00) at Walgreens and fell in love with it.  Use your normal injection syringe with 1/2" needle, load it into the auto-injector, locate where you want to inject and simply push a buton and its over.  Might be a sissy approach, but its nice and no shaking hands in my case. The shots to me now are almost second nature - just need to miss the veins.  Missing the visible veins is simple and is a matter of moving the penile skin forward or back.  Also important, use alchohol pads to clean the rubber cover on the prescription bottle before taking the serum with the syringe, rub the penis with the alchohol pad at the area where the injection is to take place and then press firmly at the injection site with alchohol pad in place for at least five minutes - this will help eliminate plaque buildup down the road. 
 
My system is currently comfortable with 0.06cc which gives me a satisfactory firm erection (80% or so).  I always remind my wife when the injection is due so she knows when I will have an erection - use it or not. Based on our present situation, I inject myself 30 minutes before any action and as we get into foreplay the erection fully developes and can last up to two hours from there comfortably.
 
For experimentation, begin with a low dose, stimulate the penis alone or with another and monitor the result.  If it is too much, at 2-1/2 hours take two Sudafed @ 30mg each and do some form of exercise (walk, up & down stairs, etc.).  If the erection does not begin to subside at about 40 minutes later, use an ice pack (ouch!) against the penis.  This should work, iF not call the Doc or exchange.  If the dose is too low, little erection, that's OK.  Up the next dose by 0.05cc only and patiently await the result. All will be well.  Take things in moderation.  The Trimix will be good for both of you.
 
Welcome back to male erections!  A great feeling and satisfaction for us men, and I think for our wives also.
 
Anything else I can offer?  Let us know how it goes.
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon


41diagnosed
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   Posted 3/11/2008 3:00 AM (GMT -7)   
I have heard that you can purchase an auto-injector if giving the injection is too difficult.  I have been fine with giving the trimix injections myself.  Sometimes I hesitate, but it's simply mind over matter.  It doesn't really hurt, but the thought of it causes the hesitation at times.  Dosage varies.  I use .03 cc and it lasts about an hour and is worth it. 


 
42 yo. now
 
5/07 PSA 4.65 at routine physical
6/07 biopsy positive for cancer...Gleason 3+4...diagnosed at 41 y.o.
6/07-9/07 manic research and interviews with physicians across the country in search of the "right" decision.  I went to Mass General in Boston, Loma Linda, University of Chicago and Northwestern.
9/17/07 - Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy Surgery at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago by Dr. William Catalona.  Thankful the father of the PSA test was right here in Chicago.
 
Post op pathology was Gleason 3+4 with negative margins, no seminal vesicale involvement, no lymphatic or vascular invasion, bladder and urethral free and tumor volume was 5% of 27.3g.  
 
9/27/07 - Catheter removal...let the games begin...
 
12/07 - Threw out the pads.  I only had to use 1 pad per day for protection against minor drips. 
 
I started Trimix 8 weeks after surgery with success.
 
I hope someday I won't need injections, but I hope more that my PSA stays at 0 forever.
 
 
 


wd40
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   Posted 3/11/2008 4:31 AM (GMT -7)   
I thought I would add a different perspective. The thought of giving old willie a shot gives me the the willie's. But I am only two months out and my sex drive is just starting to come back. The horny'er I get,will make the shot sound more reasonable, but not at this point in my recovery.
12/06/07 DaVinci and open prostate surgery after difficulties in breathing stopped the davinci.
Walked a lot
90% control the day the catherter removed.
pad only for a sneeze before the week was out
No pads most of the second week.


Lungman
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   Posted 3/11/2008 6:01 AM (GMT -7)   
My urologist told me up front (no pun intended!!) that the injections were the most effective at restoring blood flow and usable erections. I was turned off by the idea, tried the oral meds, recently started bi mix and wish that I had listened to the MD sooner, the needle stick is minimal compared to the results. That said, I cannot imagine any man saying "sure, stick me in the penis with that needle" but when put in perspective, it really is more of a mental aversion than anything else, conquer the fear, we have all shown we can do that. Best of Luck.
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.004
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement, more notable over last month
with Viagra 100 mg.


SeekingBliss
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   Posted 3/11/2008 7:34 AM (GMT -7)   

Thank you all for your words of encouragement.  I really like the sounds of the auto injector.. I will ask the Dr. about that when we go. 

Sounds like this takes patience to perfect.  That's ok.... as with most things we deal with... a lot of love and humor will see us through.

SeekingBliss


Husband Diagnosed:  September 2007
His Age: 61
       PSA: 20
Tumor: T2(b)
Radical Prostatectomy:  Oct 25, 2007
Gleason Score on pathology:  4 + 3 = 7
4 mo post op - Feb 13/08 PSA:  2.3
Starting hormone therapy:  March 2008 - Zoladex
 
 


lawink
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   Posted 3/11/2008 9:58 AM (GMT -7)   

Hi Seekingbliss

I'm going to deal with the "fear of self-injection" . . . .just tell hubby to remember that it's the first time that's the toughest (emotionally) . . . after that it gets easier and easier.

Picture this . . . .hubby (mine) walking around with the needle (ready and willing) in one hand and his penis in the other (not looking willing or able) . . .for an hour and a half . . . not able to do the final "stick" . . . . this went on several times for THREE WEEKS when he finally overcame his fear and did the deed.  As I predicted to him, it has never again been as difficult and he too laughs at how impossible it seemed the first time.

So, like you said . . patience, practice, humor . . . all will get you through.  Good luck and don't give up.

My concern with auto injection (for a first timer) would be releasing the "trigger device" in fear, before it was against the desired area, or pulling back and wasting a dose or doses.

;o) Linda & Bob


Bob (61) - Laproscopic Prostate Removal Sept 27, 2006.
2 of 12 malignant biopsy samples - gleason 3 + 3 = 6.
 
Pathology - cancer completely contained, even a second more aggressive, previously undetected cancer)
PSA UNDETECTABLE Nov 2006, Feb, May, Oct2007.  ONE YEAR!!!! WHOOO HOOOO! 

Bob also has two secondary conditions -- Polycythemia (elevated red & white cells & platelets) and . . Myelofibrosis) -- If anyone has experience with or information on these, please email us.


biker90
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   Posted 3/11/2008 12:49 PM (GMT -7)   
I agree with Linda, the thought is worse than the deed. MaryLu has given me testosterone injections in the butt for 12 or so years but she refused to inject the Trimix. I could not convince her to "do her part". Now after a few months it is routine and this after I swore I would NEVER do that to myself. Cancer changes our lives - in many ways...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."
 


DanmanBob
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   Posted 3/11/2008 8:55 PM (GMT -7)   

Saw in a post somewhere on this site....maybe a different thread...that one poster has good results with injections but his penis head does not get hard.

Is this a common result?  If so, does it interfere with intercourse?


Danman Bob
Age 57
Prostate removal November 2007
Gleason score 9, TC1
Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Despite high Gleason score, cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (1 to 2 pads a day)
Began using Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy mid-February 2008
Begain using Viagra 3 times a week December 2007 to stimulate blood flow


Ripandburn
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   Posted 3/12/2008 4:19 AM (GMT -7)   
DanmanBob,

It hasn't for me, but in a previous post I did see where someone was having a problem. I don't think the head being small interferes with most of us.
52 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
PSA after 6 weeks <0.1 - undetectable
PSA after 4 month .07 - undetectable
11 weeks post-op - no more pads


not me!
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   Posted 3/12/2008 3:36 PM (GMT -7)   
I think your hubby is just trying to get a little extra hands on attention - the whole idea wasn't overly appealing, but my sex drive over came that issue in about 10 seconds. If necessary, I would have used a 10 penny nail for the result that Bimix produced.  Strongly recommend starting with Bimix  and using a 31G short insulin needle.  If he does that, it will be painless.   I started with Caverject (considerable but tolerable pain, somewhat distracting), then Trimix (noticeable pain but less distracting) and now Bimix (no pain and very normal feeling).  For me and most that I have read about here, Bimix produces great quality natural feeling erections without the pain. I recommend trying it first, if it doesn't work, you always move up.  For some reason the doctors seem to go the other way around, I think because the Caverject is easy to prescribe and use. 


 

55 yr old at surgery -2/06 PSA 5.5 – 3/06 PSA 5.4- 3/06Gleason 3+3 (6)

7/06 DaVinci Surgery –contained, nerve bundles spared,

7/13 cath removed – used pad for one week

PSA undetectable at 6 and 12 months

No ED prior to Surgery – Substantial ED post surgery

some improvement with daily viagra, pump helped more, not enough

9/07/07Caverject injections – Worked Great- moderate pain

12/15/07 switched to Trimix-worked great-less pain  

02/15/08 switched to Bimix -BEST BY FAR natural feeling - no pain

 

 

 

 

Post Edited (not me!) : 3/12/2008 5:17:13 PM (GMT-6)


kziz
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   Posted 3/18/2008 4:33 PM (GMT -7)   
SeekingBliss, We started the injections a few months back. My husband has insisted that I do the injections. So far, only once has he felt it, and that was the last time. I think (and am hoping) that maybe he is getting more feeling down there because of the erections the injections create. He is finally starting to make comments about doing them himself. I think he relizes that it isn't hard, doesn't hurt and why make me stick him with a needle. I was scared to death at first, but like him was glad and excited when it was painless. As for the amount, your doc will tell you where to start and you have to play with it from there. I keep a journal that says how much med, which side, if erection occured and for how long. Good Luck to you both. Oh and by the way, before trying shots, we tried suppositories. MUCH more painfull!!!! Just FYI for you. Courtney
Kurt & Courtney
47 year old
Great Health prior to dx
Dx on 1/29/07
PSA 4.1
Gleason 3+3=6, both lobes
Stage T2c, I believe
Tumor involves 20% of cores, both lobes
Live in OK
Da Vinci scheduled 3-14-07 in Austin
Post-Op  Gleason 6, Stage t2c nx mx  YAAAAA HOOOOOO! 
1st PSA Post OP  Undetectable!!!!!!  OFF THE CHART
2nd CT scan, to recheck enlarged lymph nodes not related to PCa NO CHANGE relook in 6 months


ghosttown
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   Posted 11/26/2008 6:56 AM (GMT -7)   
hope someone is still checking this.
anyone have any experience with the effectiveness of injections
on a patient using antidepressant meds. wellbutrin and effexor.
have tried viagra with no positive results.
my surgery was at Johns Hopkins 10/05. RP most recent PSA results were good. Visiting hospital is problematic, six hour drive.
have yet to experience an erection rigid enough for penetration.

hb2006
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   Posted 11/26/2008 11:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I think that it is a little soon for injections. My urologist waited for 6 months but I was using viagra and cialis before that. Not much of an effect, also tried the pump but could never stay hard very long even with the ring or double rings. I had been on Caverject Impulse 10 mcg before it became unavailable. Then switched to Edex Refill which has the same drug. Both work great but with the aching pain. I also tried viagra with Caverject because I had read that reduces the pain, which is somewhat true. But I was also hard for 3 1/2 hours.
 
I plan on switching to the Trimix or Bimix after the Edex is gone. I never feel the needle stick or even bleed from the puncture. And contrary to some of the other posts, the injections give me the most natural erections that I have ever had. But every guy is different.  

Piano
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   Posted 11/26/2008 4:39 PM (GMT -7)   
I started injections exactly one month after surgery. They work effectively on those with no nerves at all, so I expect they would also work even if your nerve function is suppressed with anti-depressants. But hey, I'm not a doctor, so I could be completely wrong here.
Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week and 7-month PSAs: 0
Bimix injections working well 


apacker1950
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   Posted 11/28/2008 9:34 AM (GMT -7)   
I started trimix at about 3 months post RP.  Wish I would have started earlier.  Great results at .11ml.  Ask your Dr. and I bet he will get you started.  Good Luck,  Allan

ghosttown
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   Posted 11/28/2008 9:02 PM (GMT -7)   
my surgery was october of 2005.
I know I should do the research on my own but feeling a little lazy.
Exactly how do the BiMix injections work? Do they relax the nerves
so that there is an unrestricted blood flow? Is the injection actually
doing the work that the blood would normally do?
I'm sure someone out there knows.
Also, I have read that the BiMix is often prescribed in terms of a UNIT. How does 1 unit translate to cc's

Piano
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   Posted 11/29/2008 2:54 AM (GMT -7)   
In a normal erection, the brain signals the nerves and the nerves open the blood vessels.

Penile injections, including bimix, bypass the brain and nerves and work directly on the blood vessels. You then don't need nerves (or brain!) for erections -- just a good blood supply.

One UNIT is 0.01cc. So 100 units = 1 cc (or 1 ml, same thing).
Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week and 7-month PSAs: 0
Bimix injections working well 


ghosttown
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   Posted 11/29/2008 9:15 PM (GMT -7)   
no need for a brain, there must be a lot of politicians in Washington getting injections, explains how we're getting screwed all the time.

Let's see if I get this right, my dr. writes a script for the BiMix and sends it to me. I in turn send it to Florida, Franck's to have it filled.
Are there variations in the strength of the dosage or is that controlled by the amount used?
Start at .30cc and work my way up or down as need be.
What is the price at Franck's
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