Which type of injection do you use....and related questions.....

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DanmanBob
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   Posted 3/12/2008 9:37 PM (GMT -7)   
Caverject?
 
Bimix?
 
Trimix?
 
Does your penis head get firm or just the shaft?
 
Do you inject yourself or does your partner do this for you?
 
The first time, did the doctor or PA do it for you in the office?
 
How long have you used injections?  Did your doctor require you to use a pump for X months before agreeing to prescribe injections?
 
Do you still use Viagra or a similar drug and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
 
Do you still use a pump and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
 
How often do you use injections?
 
Do you inject on one side only or do you rotate left and right?
 
Do any of you have pre-existing Peyronie's and if so, did/do injections work okay for you?


Danman Bob
Age 57
Prostate removal November 2007
Gleason score 9, TC1
Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Despite high Gleason score, cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (1 to 2 pads a day)
Began using Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy mid-February 2008
Begain using Viagra 3 times a week December 2007 to stimulate blood flow


Ripandburn
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 125
   Posted 3/13/2008 5:23 AM (GMT -7)   
I started with Caverject the first and last time in the doctors office. Because of the pain that I experienced, I asked him to write me a prescription for Bimix before I left the office. I have never used trimix.

My penis is rock-solid, and the head is not as "full" as with a natural erection. Since bimix, I have never had a problem having intercourse.

I inject myself, but since I am right-handed, I am more concerned about hitting the right spot with my left hand, and pushing the syringe.

The first time was in the doctors office with Caverject. I told him I wanted to do the injection while he watched. He agreed, and told me that I was the 1st patient of his that ever requested to do that. Success but painful feeling.

I have been using the bimix since November 2007, and even though I filled the 1st prescription for caverject, I will probably never use it.

I have never used the pump, and from some of the things I have read here, I don't think I want to start.

Originally I was prescribed Cialis every other day before starting injections. A whole cialis gave me side effects....headaches and more that normal migranes. Doc said take 1/2 every other day. I do that occasionally now. I also use 100mg of Viagra occasionally, and had my 1st success with intercourse on 100 mg Viagra. Short session, but success none the less.

The key to this is to keep "working it", however you treat it with medication or injections.

I use injections twice/week.

I alternate injection each time. Wednesdays....left. Saturdays...right.

I have never had any issues with Peyronies.
52 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
PSA after 6 weeks <0.1 - undetectable
PSA after 4 month .07 - undetectable
11 weeks post-op - no more pads


Lungman
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Date Joined Jan 2008
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   Posted 3/13/2008 5:39 AM (GMT -7)   
I am using bi-mix, also have had success with papaverine only, but the erections with bi mix are excellent, currently using 0.15 ml. I inject myself, really no problems. My MD suggested using injections as the most effective means of regaining blood flow and return of potency. I have used the oral meds and still do on "no injection" days. He suggest no more than 10 injections/month. To get going with injections, I had 2 appts, the first involved a RN inject and instruct me, gave me info, returned the next week and did an injection myself, both with low dose so I did not have a lingering erection for the lobby!! I alternate sides and position lengthwise doing injections. Had no pre existing problems with Peyronies, have no indication at this point of any problems. I waited 5 mos to begin injections after getting only partial (60-70%) erections with Cialis/Viagra. Looking back, I would have started as soon an MD would have allowed. On the second visit I got a a bottle of bi-mix and a bottle of papaverine only. I don't use the oral meds and injections together, advised not to by the clinic. Costwise, the injections are a bargain, $25 for bi mix, cheaper than the co-pay on Cialis and much more effective, all I can say is WOW, well worth the needle stick.
 
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.004
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement, more notable over last month
with Viagra 100 mg.


James C.
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Date Joined Aug 2007
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   Posted 3/13/2008 7:54 AM (GMT -7)   
Caverject?
  Yes, but stopped due to pain and aching being too much for the results.  Got the firmest (almost rock hard), longest lasting erection from it though.
 
Bimix?
  Yes, currently using it, .5ml in a 31 ga, 5/16 inch needle syringe.  Most times successful, although the firmness is  somewhat l   less than the Caverject was.  
 
Trimix?
  Not tried it
 
Does your penis head get firm or just the shaft?
  Just the shaft, the head does not get hard.   However, with the pump it does, so go figure.
 
Do you inject yourself or does your partner do this for you?
  I inject myself
 
The first time, did the doctor or PA do it for you in the office?
   I did it myself, at home
 
How long have you used injections?  Did your doctor require you to use a pump for X months before agreeing to prescribe injections?
   I have injected for 2 months now.  No requirements of using the pump first.  I requested the injections at 3 months post c    catheter removal as a part of rehab therepy for erections and he prescribed it. 
 
Do you still use Viagra or a similar drug and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
    I take 50mg. generic Viagra daily, even on days of injecting.  But the Viagra is taken a couple hours after injecting.
 
Do you still use a pump and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
     I use the pump morning and night daily for infusion therepy.  I also use the pump to plump up my penis prior to injecting,  t     this seems to make hitting the mark and diffusing the drug easier.
 
How often do you use injections?
      I inject twice a week, usually.
 
Do you inject on one side only or do you rotate left and right?
      I inject on both side, rotating each time.
 
Do any of you have pre-existing Peyronie's and if so, did/do injections work okay for you
    No pre-existing Peyronie's. 

James C. 
 
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Age 60 
4/19/07   PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07   Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07   Path report:  3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6. 
9/24/07   (Open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed 
9/26/07   Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07  ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
11/15/07  1st Post-surgery PSA-0.01
01/14/08  Caverject started/stopped, aching.   .5ml Bimix started-success
 3/24/08   ED- 6 mts.-Viagra, pump, Bimix continues- no response


Tamu
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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 626
   Posted 3/13/2008 8:46 AM (GMT -7)   

 

 

Bimix 

Does your penis head get firm or just the shaft?  No
 
Do you inject yourself or does your partner do this for you?  I inject myself
 
The first time, did the doctor or PA do it for you in the office?  PA
 
How long have you used injections?  Did your doctor require you to use a pump for X months before agreeing to prescribe injections?  Been using injections about 11 months.  My doctor actually recommended the injections first and I chose to try the pump.  He told me that I would be back for injections and he was right.
 
Do you still use Viagra or a similar drug and if so, in what way relative to your injections?  Yes, I use Levitra in combination with the injection
 
Do you still use a pump and if so, in what way relative to your injections?  No
 
How often do you use injections?  Couple of times a week.
 
Do you inject on one side only or do you rotate left and right?  Rotate
 
Do any of you have pre-existing Peyronie's and if so, did/do injections work okay for you?  Did not have any pre-existing conditions
 
 
Tamu

Diagnosed 7/6/06, 1 of 10 core samples, 40%,Stage T1c, Gleason 3+3
Da Vinci on 11/01/06, Catheter out on 11/13/06
56 Years Old
Post Op Path, Gleason 3+3, Approx. 5% of prostate involved
Prostate Confined, margins clear
Undetectable PSA on 12/18/06, 6/25/07, 1/8/08
No more pads as of 1/13/07
Began injections in April '07
 


StrictlyInc
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 353
   Posted 3/13/2008 5:41 PM (GMT -7)   
Caverject? Prostaglandin alone gave me painful erections and Peyronie's.

Bimix? This is what I currently use

Trimix? Tried a couple of times, erections were painful.

Does your penis head get firm or just the shaft? Just the shaft, though I wouldn't describe the head as floppy.

Do you inject yourself or does your partner do this for you? I inject myself. I cannot imagine having my partner inject me there.

The first time, did the doctor or PA do it for you in the office? Had several injections in the doctor's office, mostly when being examined for Peyronie's side effects that happened early on. I probably did not inject correctly initially, though lack of training was partially to blame, IMO.

How long have you used injections? Did your doctor require you to use a pump for X months before agreeing to prescribe injections? I wasn't required to use a pump - after my inquiring about lack of injections, it was suggested. Same for injections. I wish I had been pointed to both the pump and the injections earlier.

Do you still use Viagra or a similar drug and if so, in what way relative to your injections? I use Levitra 20 mg (generic) daily, Viagra if I am out.

Do you still use a pump and if so, in what way relative to your injections? I use pump on non-injection days if I want to ********* or have intercourse.

How often do you use injections? ad hoc, though trying to increase to at least weekly, as that seems to help. Cost is a factor, though.

Do you inject on one side only or do you rotate left and right? Always rotate to decrease chance of Peyronies increasing.

Do any of you have pre-existing Peyronie's and if so, did/do injections work okay for you? Peyronie's happened completely after surgery and perhaps pump and injections. Again, I think I did not get the best instruction, and definitely not the best follow-up.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix batting average: .706 (12 for 17)
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 17 for 30 = .567

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


kdnole
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 152
   Posted 3/14/2008 7:13 AM (GMT -7)   
Trimix?

Does your penis head get firm or just the shaft?
Just the shaft.

Do you inject yourself or does your partner do this for you?
I inject myself.

The first time, did the doctor or PA do it for you in the office?
The doctor did it and gave me way too much. After 5 hours I was in the ER and that's a whole different story.

How long have you used injections? Did your doctor require you to use a pump for X months before agreeing to prescribe injections?
Been using Trimix for 7 months and no the doctor didn't require the pump first. He just recommend it.

Do you still use Viagra or a similar drug and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
I used Viagra for a few weeks but never with the injections.

Do you still use a pump and if so, in what way relative to your injections?
Nope.

How often do you use injections?
2-3 times a week.

Do you inject on one side only or do you rotate left and right?
I try to rotate but I mostly inject on one side.

Do any of you have pre-existing Peyronie's and if so, did/do injections work okay for you?
Nope


Age 44
PSA 4.8
Gleason 3+3=6
T2
Biopsy - 3 of 12 (2@20% / 1@80%
Da Vinci 7/31/07 @ Duke
2.5 hr. surgery, released from Duke with in 14 hrs.
Saved both nerve bundles. 
Foley out 8/10/08
Positive Pathology Report 
Near left side nerve bundle
New Gleason 7
Oncology visit in the near future for radiation
Back to work 3 weeks following surgery - Sales
 
9/13/07 - 1 Post PSA Undetectable less than 0.1 
 
9/17/07 - Pad Free! 
 
10/11/07 - ED, Trimix injection .2cc Tooo much but it worked. Now on .05cc, 3 times a week
No luck with viagra or pump. 
 
11/19/07 - 5 mth. PSA 0.1 (Ouch)
02/11/08 - Scheduled for CT Scan and MRI
2/27/08 - Started IMRT Radiation treatments
(6 weeks, 5 days a week)  

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