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Eagle10
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   Posted 3/18/2008 9:45 PM (GMT -6)   
i just have a few questions.
1. Does anyone know how fast this cancer spreads.
 2. HOneltly what are the chances that it could come back.
  3. IF the doctor gave you the option of radiation after surgry, said it was not necessary but you could do it if you watned would you do it?
                    Thanks yall
Dad:
age: 58- good health overall
PSA- 6
G.score- 3+3
Doctor told him that surgry was best. Date not set yet.


Swimom
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   Posted 3/18/2008 11:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Eagle,

Try this article/chart. Hope it helps.

http://www.cancer.prostate-help.org/download/jhnomo.pdf
 


Gordy
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   Posted 3/19/2008 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Eagle10-

At the risk of getting myself permanently thrown off this site for being rebarbative and obnoxious and with no hard feelings directed to you,
1. Does anyone know if it will be raining in Washington, DC on August 5, 2008?
2. What are the chances of having some mishap befall me in October 2008?
3. If 2 radiation oncologists said it would be a good idea - definitely.

(As those of you who know me can see, spinal surgery last week hasn't changed me much.)

Love to All. And best wishes to Eagle10.

-Les

DanmanBob
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   Posted 3/19/2008 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   

Eagle10, many prostate cancers spread slowly.

Some do not.

My PSA went from 1.9 to 14 in a year.  My urologist had a patient whose PSA went from 0.4 to 30 in six months.

Every situation is unique.


Danman Bob
Age 57
Prostate removal November 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14
Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Despite high Gleason score, cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (1 to 2 pads a day)
Began using Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy mid-February 2008
Begain using Viagra 3 times a week December 2007 to stimulate blood flow


aus
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   Posted 3/20/2008 6:40 PM (GMT -6)   
just have a few questions.
1. Does anyone know how fast this cancer spreads.
 2. HOneltly what are the chances that it could come back.
  3. IF the doctor gave you the option of radiation after surgry, said it was not necessary but you could do it if you watned would you do it?
   
1. No, some spread quickly, many are indolent. Gleason scores of 8 or higher are regarded as higher risk.
2. No-one knows that either. With recent more extensive screening, most men are diagnosed with early stage lower risk G6 PC. Large majority of these have various treatment options to provide good long term prognosis.
3. No, not unless there is higher risk diagnosis, in which case additional treatments should be seriously considered.
 
As gleason readings are subjective, it pays to have a 2nd reading to confirm where you stand, before rushing into choosing treatment.  
 
Regardless of what treatment is chosen, most important factor is to select the best doctor available, as he will have a big influence on both short term and long term outcome, and provide the best chance of few side isssues. 
 
It's also worth reading a good book on the subject. For a comprehensive overall book on diagnosis, treatment options, selecting your doctor, lifestyle considerations etc, the book by Lee Nelson is very good.  For someone considering surgery, the books by Dr Scardino or Dr Walsh are often recommended.            

War-eagle
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Total Posts : 219
   Posted 3/20/2008 10:31 PM (GMT -6)   

Eagle10,

As you see evertone is different. My PSA (post-op, hormone treatments & radiation) went down to .12 and stayed there for one year. Then over the past year is has gone to 14 then 12.82. I started chemo last week. But you will see so many here have much better results. My PC is advanced and hormone resistant. Your fathers may well be very different. We pray that it will. My advise is to go deeper in your research and study. You will start to gain a much better understanding of PC and how individual it really is. It can be frustrating at times because you can not get straight black and white answers but you will know the options.

Don't mind Les. I value his answers more than you could ever quess. He keeps us all grounded and reminds us that no matter what state we are in we must keep studying to understand our situation and come to grips with it. I love ya Les.

Keep asking the questions and stay in touch.

War Eagle, baby

Walt  


Age: 54
PSA 43 7/2005
Biopsy 12/14 Gleason 7 & 9
Divinci 9/2005 - spread to bladder
HT - 10/2005 (Eligard every 6 months)
RT - 10/2005 (38 treatments)
PSA 0.12 to 1.9 2/2007
Bone Scan and CT 4/2007 Bone mets
Casodex 4/2007
Zometa infusions 4/2007
PSA 4.8 8/2007
PSA 6.34 12/2007
Radiation (15 treatments) started on bone mets 12/2007
PSA 6.72 1/2008
PSA 8.23 2/2008 - Starting prednisone for 30 days
PSA 14 2-29-2008 - start chemo on 3/12 
 
"I will persist without exception - I will find a way where there is no way"


Johnny Canuck
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 88
   Posted 3/20/2008 11:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Eagle10 said...
...  3. IF the doctor gave you the option of radiation after surgry, said it was not necessary but you could do it if you watned would you do it?
                   
I had  seed brachy...which (so far) I'd recommend if viable...but if my doc opted for surgery, and gave me the option of radiation on top of it, I think I'd go for it. After all, the cancer's already set up shop, if the radiation ices the cake, all the better.
Age: 54
Gleason Score: 6
PSA: 3.33
Biopsy:6/8 Positive
Stage: T1c
Prostate Size: 27cc
 
Diagnosed: December 05, 2007
Brachytherapy: February 26, 2008
 


Gordy
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   Posted 3/21/2008 7:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you Walt.

-Les

Lungman
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Total Posts : 276
   Posted 3/21/2008 8:29 AM (GMT -6)   
Eagle 10, almost impossible to determine how fast anyones cancer spreads, everyone is different. I reviewed Hans and Partin tables to determine the likelihood of future problems, they are comprised of years of statistical data and I found them very helpful in determining my course of treatment.
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.01, 6 Month PSA 0.01
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement, more notable over last month
with Viagra 100 mg.


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   Posted 4/8/2008 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   
tongue  Kristen ~ Stay Close...
 

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A personal journey by Kristen *Eagle 10

 

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