Pumping goof up....perhaps new pumpers can avoid same mistake

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DanmanBob
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Date Joined Feb 2008
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   Posted 3/23/2008 4:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Being overexuberant at times, I got a little carried away with my pumping and bruised my penis...actually broke at least one blood vessel.
 
I believe I did this by trying to get that "little extra" firmness and length when I pumped this past week.  My pump instructions say to let the skin return to normal....probably 5 to 7 days....then get back at it, which I plan to do.  I broke a vessel in my penis a couple of years ago during foreplay and the doc gave me the same instructions then.....no erections for a few days until discoloration disappears.
 
Will try to do better now that I realize what I did wrong.....using only for therapy, not for intercourse, so no need to try to "maximize" anything any way.  Hope to add injections to the mix within a month or so.
 
 
Danman Bob
Age 57
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14
Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Despite high Gleason score, cancer was confined to the prostate
Possible post-surgery radiation therapy...decision likely in late April 2008, depending upon PSA at that time
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of March 2008)
Began using Viagra 3 times a week December 2007 to stimulate blood flow
Began using Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy mid-February 2008
Will probably begin using bimix injections in addition to Viagra and pump in May 2008


James C.
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Date Joined Aug 2007
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   Posted 3/24/2008 6:25 AM (GMT -7)   
The pump has a safety release valve built-in to prevent over vacuuming, so this isn't as dangerous as it seems.  I had bruising the first few times I used mine, but it stopped with repeated use and stretching of tissue that has somewhat atropied.  A period of rest will allow all thins to heal.  I had the same brisuing when I first started injecting, so it comes with the territory, I suppose.  The big difference between the pump and the injections is the pump only keeps things erect from the ring forwards, the injection will make things firm internally for some length, resulting in much firmer, useable erections that don't try to collapse at that critical soft inch in the middle.    devil
James C. 
 
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Age 60 
4/19/07   PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07   Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07   Path report:  3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6. 
9/24/07   (Open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed 
9/26/07   Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07  ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
11/15/07  1st Post-surgery PSA-0.01
01/14/08  Caverject started/stopped, aching.   .5ml Bimix started-success
 3/24/08   ED- 6 mts.-Viagra, pump, Bimix continues- no response


kdnole
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 152
   Posted 3/24/2008 8:52 AM (GMT -7)   
Danman, Most of us have definitely been there done that but I will also warn you to be careful of sucking one of your testicles up in the pump. You talk about something that will make you move fast, that's it. Having KY jelly all over the place makes it even worse when you can't get a firm grip on the release valve as you watch one of the boy's slip away.
Age 44
PSA 4.8
Gleason 3+3=6
T2
Biopsy - 3 of 12 (2@20% / 1@80%
Da Vinci 7/31/07 @ Duke
2.5 hr. surgery, released from Duke with in 14 hrs.
Saved both nerve bundles. 
Foley out 8/10/08
Positive Pathology Report 
Near left side nerve bundle
New Gleason 7
Oncology visit in the near future for radiation
Back to work 3 weeks following surgery - Sales
 
9/13/07 - 1 Post PSA Undetectable less than 0.1 
 
9/17/07 - Pad Free! 
 
10/11/07 - ED, Trimix injection .2cc Tooo much but it worked. Now on .05cc, 3 times a week
No luck with viagra or pump. 
 
11/19/07 - 5 mth. PSA 0.1 (Ouch)
02/11/08 - Scheduled for CT Scan and MRI
2/27/08 - Started IMRT Radiation treatments
(6 weeks, 5 days a week)  


CaPCa
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 118
   Posted 3/24/2008 10:48 AM (GMT -7)   

I would also not recommend a drink or two before pumping. I usually have a glass of wine in the evening, and the pump therapy happens later. I found that the alcohol numbs some of the feedback you would otherwise get telling you to back off on the pressure. I'm sure it doesn't help judgement, either. Don't drink and pump - it's the law!  nono


Age:45 (44 when diagnosed)
Father diagnosed and cured at age 52.
08/21/07: Diagnosed with T1c cancer
1 of 12 biopsy cores positive; 10% tissue
Gleason score: 3+3=6
PSA level prior to biopsy: 4.3 (velocity < 0.4ng/ml)
10/19/07: da Vinci prostatectomy by Dr. Vipul Patel
              Difficult surgery due to prostate inflammation.
              Both nerve bundles spared.
              Spongy erections began within 24hrs of surgery!
10/24/07: Catheter out; down to 1 Serenity pad/day next day.
              Final pathology: neg margins, no capsular penetration,
              Gleason 3+3=6, 5% tumor involvement, multi-focal.
11/04/07  First usable erection with Cialis
11/22/07  Thanksgiving - Bye-bye, pads
01/17/08  First post-surgery PSA result: < 0.008 ng/ml
 


Bootheel
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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 300
   Posted 3/24/2008 2:11 PM (GMT -7)   
I have been on the pump about a month now. It was awkward at first but okay now. One of the things that helps me is the release valve. I pump up my erections slowly. When the pressure makes me unconfortable, I release some of the pressure. I then pump just below that point and release. I repeat this several times during a session. I don't know if thats the correct way, but it works for me. No broken vessels yet
Age 65
Diagnosed 10/12/07
PSA 6.3
Biopsy 18 core samples, 2 positive <5%
Stage T1a Gleason 6 (3+3)
LRP  1/29/08
Post-op
Gleason 7 (3+4)
1 positive margin (.3cm)
T2C 

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