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JustJulie
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Posted 4/14/2008 10:41 AM (GMT -8)
I'm not a numbers girl in any way but I would be interested to know this.

We've had several newcomers to the site who are well under the age of 50.  Given that most doctors do not routinely screen for prostate cancer until the age of 50 I'd like to know where you fall in respect of the average.

My husband, too, was well under 50 when diagnosed at the age of 44 - no signs, no symptoms and his cancer would have gone undetected for 6 years if our doctor had followed the "normal" testing age.  Like many who are in the under 50 category, we have heard "you're too young", "We're not used to seeing patients your age", "what are you doing here - we don't usually do this test on men your age" ... Maybe it's time to change the "normal" testing age - sad I know but if it can save a life, I say it's time to review and change standard practices ...

Since women don't like to tell their age, I won't ask you guys to give it up either.  So, were you:

Under 40

50-59

60-69

70 plus

Knowing what I know now, I don't think I'll be surprised by the varying ages on this forum.  Good wishes to each and everyone one of us that is travelling this bumpy road.

 

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goody5
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Posted 4/14/2008 10:57 AM (GMT -8)
My dad had prostate cancer.  My brother is 46 and his Primary doctor would not do DRE exam on him because he is under 50. He went to a urologist for another reason and when he saw his history he asked him "When was your last DRE". My brother's reply " Never had one" Urologist " Well, your getting one now!" tongue   Thank Goodness   BTW, I am 51 
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James C.
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Posted 4/14/2008 11:11 AM (GMT -8)
I am age 61 at diagnosis.  I had been getting PSA tests since age 50.  It just wasn't on my radar before that.

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Roger G
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Posted 4/14/2008 11:15 AM (GMT -8)
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer at 42.  My PSA was 1.5 (Highish if using an age adjusted PSA scale) and Gleason score of 7 (3+4).  I had surgery last October.

My father died of prostate cancer at 61 after fighting it for more than 6 years.  It was caught to late.  His father also died of it.  Because of this family history, my doctor (GP) started testing me (PSA and DRE) at 40.  This is suppose to be the norm for anyone with a family history of agressive prostate cancer, or african heritage.

I went to see a urologist because I was having trouble emptying my bladder, getting up at 3am, blood in urine, etc.  All the tell tale signs.  The big thing is to know what to look for.  My doctor sent me to the urologist more than anything to calm my nerves.

On the bright side, I don't require anymore DREs yeah
Roger

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njiceman
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Posted 4/14/2008 11:35 AM (GMT -8)

JustJulie,

The earliest that I have data from is 1997 when I was 50 (PSA 0.94) .  Working in the chemical industry and a volunteer fireman, we were given complete physicals every year and I know that I had a DRE every time going back to 1980.  (We had a Dr. in the plant that was 6'4" 300 lbs. and we always felt that he used the finger that had his college ring on it.)

My Uncle and father both had PCa.  My father was diagnosed @ 80 y.o.  and had seeds, external beam and finally HT.  He is now 87 and PSA is undectable. yeah    After he found out that he had PCa, he bugged me constantly about staying on top of the PSA test.

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Jim-N1BRP
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Posted 4/14/2008 12:02 PM (GMT -8)
First screened @ 43 found enlarged prostate, BPH.
I was screened every 6 months since then.
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JustJulie
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Posted 4/14/2008 12:06 PM (GMT -8)
Wow!

Look at the number of men diagnosed UNDER the 50 marker.  My husband and I are now encouraging all our friends to insist on a PSA test - even if you have to pay for it - I think your life is worth the $30 cost.  I was amazed at the number of men who have never been for a physical and have no idea about prostate cancer ...

Knowledge is power - spread some!

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Roger G
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Posted 4/14/2008 12:18 PM (GMT -8)
If you are from Ontario the $30 PSA is now covered by OHIP (Provincial Heath Insurance plan).
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Magaboo
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Posted 4/14/2008 12:33 PM (GMT -8)
Hi JustJulie,

I live in B.C., Canada, and PSA testing is not even part of our medical system unless there is a medical reason for testing (age is not one of them). Since patients, if the want the test done, have to pay for it  themselves (about $30.00), many men don't bother until it's to late. Hopefully, this will change soon. For my age, see below.

Wishing you and your husband well.

Magaboo

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biker90
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Posted 4/14/2008 1:21 PM (GMT -8)
I was 51 when I had my first PSA test. My dad had just died from PCa. I was diagnosed at age 72 and the doc had 21 years of annual PSA tests and DREs to look at. They showed a slow steady progression till it jumped from 5.5 to 7.1 in the last year. This triggered a visit to a urologist, a biopsy, open surgery and on the road to recovery in the span of one month.

Jim
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VaFan
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Posted 4/14/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -8)
My husband was 51 and only found the cancer cause the doctor did a routine PSA. He was given antibiotics for 2 months and then immediatly sent to an urologist when the numbers wouldn't go down. I remember thinking a few years ago... "he shouldn't have to get that test till he is 50 because thats what they say to do". He had so signs, symtoms or known family history. I tell everyone I talk to about it that they need the blood test done.

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Tamu
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Posted 4/14/2008 1:36 PM (GMT -8)
I was 56. I had my first PSA at 52 and had to ask my primary doctor to run it. It was 2.8. I wish I had a baseline done before then. I have been encouragiong all males I know 40 and over to get a baseline run.

Tamu
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Gordy
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Posted 4/14/2008 1:48 PM (GMT -8)
They also used to use a PSA threshold of 4 before the docs got further into it. Now, a PSA of 2.5 starts to pique their interest, as well it should.

-Les
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zingaa
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Posted 4/14/2008 2:04 PM (GMT -8)

I was Diagnosed at just turning 40,

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Valentine08
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Posted 4/14/2008 2:39 PM (GMT -8)
My husband was 59 at diagnosis, but his PSA had been rising for a couple years and I'm certain that if he had undergone a biopsy his condition probably would have been caught sooner.  I'm amazed at the guys whose urologists had them biopsied with PSAs in the 2 range.  While no one wants to have this condition, catching it when it is fully contained and in a low percentage seem way preferable.  We've put out the word on PSA tests to all our family and friends.  I'm not shy about asking guys if they've had the test.
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Frank1205
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Posted 4/14/2008 3:23 PM (GMT -8)
I have been getting DRE since 40. Again firefighting physicals, very complete. There are a lot of firefighters on this site and I wonder if it means nothing, has to do with the job or is simply because we are required to have a very good annual physical.?

Frank
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creed_three
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Posted 4/14/2008 3:24 PM (GMT -8)
My husband was 49 yrs exactly Julie, however on doing some personal research we discovered a test had been taken 5 years earlier by another family doc, but husband did not know it was taken or the results at the time. It was 2.1 when he was 43, and was he diagnosed through routine PSA of 3.5 (leading to biopsy) at 48 years in an annual check 5 years later - no symptoms at anytime. No family history.

From what we can see, and from our experience, the evidence points to the definite need for ALL men - globally - to be recommended to start PSA testing at age 40. cheers, Lana
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dutchy
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Posted 4/14/2008 3:48 PM (GMT -8)
My husband was 53 and diagnosed with 1940 PSA during a medical pre-employment test. Dutchy
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DanmanBob
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Posted 4/14/2008 4:19 PM (GMT -8)
Age 57 now, was 56 when diagnosed.

PSA annually since age 49 or 50.

DREs since age 43 or 44, when I began annual physicals....occasionally before then.

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myman
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Posted 4/14/2008 4:26 PM (GMT -8)
Don was diagnosed in 2005 at 63 - PSA of 7.96. His previous test in 2001 was .70 - I know, I know.

Once our sons (ages 36 & 40 at that time) told their doctors, both had dre & psa tests. Also, Moffitt Cancer Center where Don's surgery was done, follows sons of men with pc.

Good Thread, JJ!

Susan
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dawgfan
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Posted 4/14/2008 4:33 PM (GMT -8)
My GP started checking my PSA somewhere in my mid 40's I think. He started earlier than normal because I am adopted and have no family history. The PSA test revealed my PC when I was 48.
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mvesr
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Posted 4/14/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -8)
JustJulie.

I was 54 when I got the bad news. I have struggled with my employer to include PSA testing for our annual Health fair next month. I also tell all my friends about what I have been seeing on this forum and encourage everyone I come in contact with to make their Dr do a DRE and a PSA. Hope that will help some guys.

Mika
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Johnny Canuck
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Posted 4/14/2008 5:57 PM (GMT -8)
Diagnosed at 53...first PSA at 52, I think. And kudos to those Liberal clowns for finally covering the test. Now if we can get vision testing covered by OHIP again...
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Paul1959
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Posted 4/14/2008 5:57 PM (GMT -8)
At 45, my PSA was 3.15. I was 46 when got my PSA of 4.6. I was finally DX at 47.
My Doc does PSA's on all men over 40. He sees too much PCa in that age range to ignore it.

A good friend had it at 44. A friend at work, at 36.
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FLHW(David E)
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Posted 4/14/2008 6:03 PM (GMT -8)
Diagnosed at 42 (days after 42nd birthday), with a PSA of 219, bones mets and lymph node involvement. That was 38 months ago....and counting!
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