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   Posted 4/20/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I am wondering how many people take the holistic or total body approach to healing?  I know as I go around speaking or making hospital visits I always hear about the drugs we take (me to), but never much about the vitamin regime, dietary changes, emotional changes (reading positive), exercise, etc. As much as cancer depletes us of our energy, hopes, and dreams (short term), it seems vital that we, if possible, enhance the effectiveness of our treatment by treating our bodies as the temple they are. For those not on a vitamin and dietary plan, please consult your doctor and see what your options are. My prayer since getting involved in HW is for us all to still be here chatting 5 to 10 years from now. In my speechs I always use the old saying "Where there is hope there is life", I believe it to be so true. We can be each others hope for years to come. Maybe healing well should plan a 5K run and walk? Just some thoughts.
peace and love to all
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 4/20/2008 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Have you ever read a book called "Beating Prostate Cancer:Hormonal Therapy and Diet." by Dr. Snuffy Myers? In it I learned some dietary changes that I have made. My oncologist does not feel as strongly about diet but does recommend some of the following from the book. Vitamin D3, Selenium, Lycopene, Fish Oil, Flaxseed, Vitamin E are all a part of the Myers diet suppliments. No red meat (I still have it four days a week , but not as much), eat more fish, veggies(I always have ate well with veggies), red wine (I only have it occassionally now), pomagranite juice (Hate it but a suppliment is available from POM).

Not only in the book, I take three more things daily: Faith, Love and Hope. They are very nutritous.


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
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Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 4/20/2008 11:00:05 AM (GMT-6)

Doting Daughter
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   Posted 4/20/2008 10:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Speaking of Snuffy Meyers....I received a letter for a donation from them a week or so ago. The letter reference studies that they are planning on doing. One of the studies is using Vitamin D. I am interested in making a donation, however, I feel a little nervous because their website is so poor. I know it probably shouldn't matter, but I want to validate the letter and fundraiser's prior to making a donation. Any thoughts?!? I should probably start a different thread. Sorry Livinadream..it kinda ties in with your suggestions :-)
Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7 
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07
Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yr
Radiation started March 03, 2008 8 weeks 5x a week
5 weeks of radiation down!!!

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   Posted 4/20/2008 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I will be doing an Rfl on my birthday and will also be wearing a HW Cap in support of this site.
I'm going to try for 56 laps, one for each year of life and one for HOPE!!

Jim, 54,~Jim-N1BRP. My Journey
Diagnosed: 12Nov. '07, Age 54

Treatment Started : 31 Jan 08

Completed 31 Mar 08

42 treatments 1.8 Gy M-F for a total of 75.6 Gy.

Prostate Biopsy: 18Sept '06, - 10 sample all negative, Prostate size 36.3 cc

Prostate Biopsy : 12Nov '07, Biopsy - 14 sample 2 positive, one Gleason 6 at 5 %,
other Gleason 6 at 15%- Stage T1C -Prostate size 40.2 cc

Bone Scan: 12Dec '07, - Hot Spot on Brain
Family history: Father and two uncles  die from PCa

Other: GERD, 30% Carotid artery blockage, Kidney Cyst, Asthma

Meds, Hytrin, BusPIRone, Trazodone, Tramadol HCl, Omeprazole, Nitrostat, Plavix, Albuterol, Multi Vitamin  Mens

PSA's                   fPSA

1.2    Oct  05

3.61  Jul    06    

2.6    Sept 06          19%  

2.6    Apr 07             3% Oh NO


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   Posted 4/20/2008 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   

Paul used both naturalpathy (carcinosin, thujia among others) as well as traditional treatment. Postoperative bleeding, bruising and swelling were almost non exsistant thanks to Arnica. Naturalopathy is not well accepted in mainstream USA but we like our alternative approach. U of M Hospital is one hospital that works well with the alternative practitioners in our area. In fact, there is a gentleman at the U who is big in alterantives. He posts an article in PAACT issues.


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   Posted 4/20/2008 1:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I to have a naturalopath and I truly believe that with out that person and practices I would not be feeling as well as I do. I wish it were more accepted in the US. Maybe there this website we can make people aware of the alternative medicine or therapy that can work well in conjunction to what they are already doing. Thanks for responding.
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids

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   Posted 4/20/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   

Alternative medicine is not new to our family. We've combined both for many, many years. There is a fairly large population of naturalpaths in this area that is not typical of most other areas. Metro Detroit is an amazingly diverse area with one of the most dense medical communities in the country. 3 major medical schools does help. about anything anyone could want can be found around here :>)


Tim G
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   Posted 4/20/2008 4:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I've changed a few things about my diet since being diagnosed with PC two years ago.  I try to adhere to the food pyramid, which for me means adding more fruits and vegetables and not making meat the central food at a meal.
I continue with an exercise program that I've been good about for the past 10 years. This was helpful in my quick recovery from surgery and continues to keep me in good shape.
I'm a different person than I was before getting prostate cancer.  Cancer may go away, but having had cancer never does.  I am less irritable, discontented and frustrated with life.  Things that used to roll off me like buckshot off a duck's heart, now slide off me like water off a duck's back.
I am more nourishing of my spiritual life than I was before cancer.  The Vietnam War was the big event that clued me in to my mortality, but cancer loudly reminded me of it.
My relationships are of primary importance to me today rather than things.  I try to be thankful for those whom I love and love them better.

Age 59  PSA quadrupled in 1 yr (0.6 to 2.5) 
DRE neg  1 of 12 biopsies pos (5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Cancer confined to one small area of prostate
Gleason 5 (3+2)  PSA's < 0.1  

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   Posted 4/20/2008 7:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Likewise here. Big dietary changes since diagnosis and surgery. I now eat virtually no red meat nor dairy products , but rather eat a little chicken and mainly fish. Lashings of fruit (at least 7 pieces a day) and loads of vegetables (about 50% of my main meals are vegetables only). As far as fluids are concerned I drink about 2 litres a day which consists of pumpkin soup, tomato soup and green tea as well as pomegranate juice. I have developed a taste for dry muesli and use it as a substitute for cake and biscuits. Lost a fair bit of weight (which was necessary) and feel absolutely bloody marvelous.
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 4/20/2008 8:51:02 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 4/20/2008 7:36 PM (GMT -6)   

partial quote from Dale...

Maybe healing well should plan a 5K run and walk?



cool  Dale ~ Inlieu of a 5K run and walk....



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