Jay Leno "jokes" about prostate cancer

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Bob D
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   Posted 4/24/2008 9:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Jay Leno has had several "jokes" recently about men having prostate problems.
He went over the line in my opinion Wednesday night when he told a joke relating
to men with prostate cancer. All in his audience got a good laugh about it. I sent an
email to NBC expressing my thoughts on such poor taste. I know it will fall on deaf ears.
I am sure if the joke was about breast cancer there would be a uproar and demands for
an aplolgy, which he would be forced to give.

DanmanBob
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   Posted 4/24/2008 9:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Jokes about frequent urination from BPH are one thing, but jokes about ANY kind of cancer are totally uncalled for.
Danman Bob
Age 57
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14
Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Despite high Gleason score, cancer was confined to the prostate
Possible post-surgery radiation therapy...decision likely in late April 2008, depending upon PSA at that time
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of March 2008)
Began using Viagra 3 times a week December 2007 to stimulate blood flow
Began using Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy mid-February 2008
Will probably begin using bimix injections in addition to Viagra and pump in May 2008


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 4/24/2008 9:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Do you have that em address? If Mr. Leno is willing to joke publically, I am certain NBC won't mind that we complain about it.

I have a sense of humor, and I am not overly sensitive about jokes about my disease. But I stand with anyone fighting this disease offended by these "jokes". I have always thought that Mr. Leno was a pretty cool guy, though many of his views are one sided or insensitive. I understand that his business is to make people laugh. And laughter is the best medicine by some views. I did a little research on comments he's made...Here is the information:

In his monologue he stated a scientific study had concluded that the more men master b..e the less likely it is that they get prostate cancer, and then said "Well, if that research is correct, I don't understand why any man ever gets prostate cancer!!"

In a previous joke:
"You remember a couple of years ago Pat Robertson announced he had prostate cancer? You think God was punishing him for being a pain in the ass?"

Someone told me he joked about Rudy Guiliani's fight with PCa. If anyone can find it, I would appreciate it. For my part, Jay Leno can continue to joke in this manner. As I have always said, any attention, good or misguided, is attention we need. Mr. Leno can make it up to me by putting a serious note on it in support of our efforts when he uses that type of humor. (Tony's Opinion again)

Tony


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
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PianoMan
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   Posted 4/24/2008 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I THINK ANY JOKES about ANY KINDS OF CANCER ARE DISGUSTING.  When a comedian has to reach that deep in his bag for a gag, it's sad.
Jay Leno and his writers can kiss my ***.

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

Third post-surgery PSA -- Undetactable, 2/15/08


Tim G
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   Posted 4/24/2008 11:33 PM (GMT -6)   

A sense of humor, even about prostate cancer, was helpful to me in coping with the fears I had after my diagnosis of prostate cancer.  And it brought some sunshine to the dismal mood I fell into.  

Of course, joking about one's own disease is different than someone else joking about it.    



Age 59  PSA quadrupled in 1 yr (0.6 to 2.5) 
DRE neg  1 of 12 biopsies pos (5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Cancer confined to prostate (1 pea-sized area) 
T2a  Gleason 5 (3+2)  PSA < 0.1  


Swimom
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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:27 AM (GMT -6)   
We all need to lighten up and reduce stress in our lives. I do not defend Leno. I defend the right to be happier in unhappy circumstances. Life is way, way, way.... too short to worry about what a silly late night comedian has to say. Heck, he ain't even good enough for prime time!

:>)
 


VaFan
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   Posted 4/25/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
My husband and I joke all the time about what we are going thru. It gets us by and a sense of humor has always been a huge part of our lives. BUT...As TimG said, we can joke, but someone else joking just made me sad. I did write a short note to NBC and I'm not an activist in any way. I just wanted it to be known how I felt about something that hit so close to home.
Alittle whisper in someones ear could change how people think and respond and handle the future.....
Age 51 Kent
January 08 PSA 5.2 round of antibiotics went to 4.3
February 08 anpther round of antibiotics went to 4.2
March 17,08 had biopsy, 2 days later told cancer was on
one entire side of prostate.
Gleason 3+3
Doctor thinks its best to get the whole prostate with Perineal  Prostatectomy.
Surgery scheduled for this Thursday April 10th.
Cindy (the wife!!)
Surgery preformed and doing great. Only took 1 1/2 hours. Will know in two weeks about pathology report. Surgeon feels he he got all cancer and confined to prostate. Both nerves were spared.
Home 4-11
Cath out 4-22 dripping some
Prostate confined to one side of prostate.
Cialis 5 mg at night to start
Outlook very positive!!


Johnny Canuck
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   Posted 4/25/2008 7:09 AM (GMT -6)   
TC-LasVegas said...In his monologue he stated a scientific study had concluded that the more men master b..e the less likely it is that they get prostate cancer, and then said "Well, if that research is correct, I don't understand why any man ever gets prostate cancer!!"

In a previous joke:
"You remember a couple of years ago Pat Robertson announced he had prostate cancer? You think God was punishing him for being a pain in the ass?"
Couple o' thoughts...Whatever you might think about Pat Robertson, that joke was over the line because it got personal.
But jeez...the masterbation thing? I think that's funny, and don't forget that we are all about getting prostate cancer out into the public consciousness. Look at who the spokesman is in Canada...Red Green!!
Anyway, imagine if that scientific study said, instead, that men who masterbate were more likely to get PCa. Now that would suck as an image-booster!
I actually dealt with this on an entirely different forum, and once the chuckling subsided, I got to urge folks to get their PSAs & DREs done. I agree with the swimom...life's too short and I'm not going to get my knickers in a knot. Besides, it's radioactive down there...

Age: 54
Gleason Score: 3+3=6
PSA: 3.33
Biopsy:7/8 Positive
Stage: "Bulky" T1c
Prostate Size: 27cc
 
Diagnosed: December 05, 2007
Brachytherapy: February 26, 2008
68 seeds, (Iodine 125). 
 
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dawgfan
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   Posted 4/25/2008 8:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Chill out. What we have been and continue to go through is more serious. I need to lighten up more often and I'll bet you do too.
DX 8/24/06
Gleason 6
PSA 3.32
stage T1C
age 48 at the time
da Vinci on 10/20/06
Last PSA was ZERO
Husband, Father, Son, Brother, Friend
"Never miss a good chance to listen."
 


PianoMan
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   Posted 4/25/2008 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi fellow forum friends:  I started the "Things about the Journey That Force You to Laugh" thread in this forum over a year ago, so I'm no stranger to the benefits of humor in our everyday lives, including those of us in the PCa club.
 
Based on what Tony TC-Las Vegas said, it sounded like Leno's statements were pretty tame though.
 
So I didn't mean to come off like an anti-humor person.  I just hate comics who have no boundaries when it comes to trying to get a laugh, ala Howard Stern and others.
 
My two cents.
Best to ya,
Tom

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

Third post-surgery PSA -- Undetactable, 2/15/08


Bob D
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   Posted 4/25/2008 11:20 PM (GMT -6)   
I have no problem with those here that do not take offense
to Leno's prostate cancer jokes. I do have a problem when
jokes about prostate cancer go by with an "oh well" attitude
when if his jokes were about breast cancer or sickel cell anemia
all hell would break loose. A double standard for sure.
 

StrictlyInc
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   Posted 4/27/2008 2:24 AM (GMT -6)   
Bob D, you certainly have a point.

Let's face it: we are easy targets. Comedians can't resist the easy and sure joke. Keep in mind also that some of this attitude is fueled by ignorance and fear.

I'd never wish this disease or its ramifications on anyone, but I wonder if Leno would have the same attitude if he was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

For what it's worth: I used to believe the myth that those who were sexually active / frequent masturbat0rs were less likely to get prostate cancer. I was in the more than once a day category for years. The urologist that diagnosed me told me he's seen research saying frequent masturbat0rs were more likely to get prostate cancer. damm1t.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (6 for 6) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 24 for 37 = .649

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Tim G
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   Posted 4/27/2008 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
After I was diagnosed with prostate cancer, I eventually told my work group.  Occasionally, some of the women would ask me how I was doing and showed concern.  The men were silent.
 
Jokingly, I told the men whom I worked with--there were six of us--that they didn't have to worry about getting prostate cancer, because it hit 1 of 6 men, and in our work group, I was the one. 
 
That helped to break the ice and make them feel more comfortable talking about it, and from that point on they discussed my upcoming surgery and prostate cancer in general more openly with me. 
 
Since my prostate cancer diagnosis and treatment, I have had an opportunity to use my own personal experience with prostate cancer to broach the subject with others.  In a few cases, I have a hunch it led to men getting tested and in others, I was able to offer support to those diagnosed with prostate cancer, their loved ones or friends 


Age 59  PSA quadrupled in 1 yr (0.6 to 2.5) 
DRE neg  1 of 12 biopsies pos (5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Cancer confined to prostate (1 pea-sized area) 
T2a  Gleason 5 (3+2)  PSA < 0.1  

Post Edited (TimG) : 4/27/2008 6:39:12 PM (GMT-6)


Bob D
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   Posted 4/27/2008 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Congrats Striclyinc on your 0 Psa record !!
TimG, yes I have also encouraged others to get tested. I do every chance I get.
If it takes humor to "git er done" that is great. I have a neighbor that has had PC and
treated with radiation. We do joke amoungst each other as one PC patient to another.
 

Paul1959
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   Posted 4/28/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
OK, now I can't resist going this direction...
 
amongst ourselves, there have to be some pretty good jokes about all this. Especially with the masturb*tion slant post surgery!  there's a joke lurking somewhere...I just can't put my finger on it!  The post-surgery guy who went to target practice cause he was shooting blanks?  dunnno.  needs work.
 
 
anyone have any jokes? humorous stories? from all this?  it does help to laugh at it, as VaFan said. 
 
PAUL
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 4/28/2008 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   

Ask and you shall receive...I am bumping an older post by our beloved pianoman... yeah

http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=755313&g=913070#m913070

 

Tony

 


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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