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   Posted 4/26/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
We just got our fourth ZERO at our 18-month mark. There is cause for celebration here that's well-deserved after the anxiety in the days preceding each test. Now, the big one will be at the 24-month point, because that's when our percentages of a return really drop.

Need to update the bio, but our post-path report was not a pretty one. We were looking at "possible" bladder neck involvement and "maybe" some cell leakage into the fatty tissue. That gave us a 20%-50% chance of cancer return. However, we were also dealing with undetectable PSAs from the beginning. Recommendation was no further action. Whew!

What we've learned: during the cauterization process, the gland also receives a little blast. That can result in a pathology report that errs on the cautious side, with the "possibilities." Of course, that also opens up doors to: "Is the path report another guessing game?"

We're so glad we didn't pursue further treatment. And, I'll say again that had the PSA been anything but undetectable, we would be aggressive with it. For now, however, we're still cancer-free.

We have so many of you to thank since our first visit in June of '06. This is the best place in the world to share the burden of fears and take away a little courage to carry on. It's an honor to be among so many heroes here, especially those who continue the fight.

OK, back to our regularly scheduled celebration.
Husband: Age 67
PSA had doubled in 14 mos to 4.3/Gleason 6
da Vinci 8/06 in Austin with Dr. Randy Fagin
Post surgical path shows encapsular penetration; possible bladder neck involvement.
PSAs remain undetectable; no further treatment at this time.
Next PSA: April 08

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   Posted 4/26/2008 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Good for you Greenacres.

Its been a scary 18 months for you but this news brightens everybody's day...

Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."

Doting Daughter
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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Cheers to 24 months cancer free....48 months cancer free...a lifetime cancer free! Great news! When one person wins, we all win! Keep us posted on all those 0's! Congrats!

Father's Information
DX July 15, 2007
Age 62 (now 63)
PSA 5.5
Original Gleason 3+4=7
Post Surgery Gleason- 4+3=7
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin
One positive node
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
T3a N1 M0
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07
Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yr
Radiation started March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
8 weeks of radiation down!!!
Praying for a cured dad. First PSA 3 months!


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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Great news. Here is hoping for a lifetime of great PSA tests.

age at dx 54 now 55
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
wear one for insurance now
ED still a problem
last PSA undetectable

Mike A
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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:48 AM (GMT -6)   
WOW! That's great news! The sun is shining brightly here in western NY, but with your post it just got a little brighter!
June 2005 - Age 53 PSA 4.8 at regular physical October 2005 - After several rounds of anti-biotics, PSA 5.2 at Urlogist November 2005 - Biopsy negative July 2006 - PSA 5.9 at regular Physical October 2006 - After several more rounds of anti-biotics PSA 8.1 November 2006 - Second biopsy - Positive December 2006 - Gleason (3+4=7), Tumor T1c, CT Scan and Bone Scan Negative
January 2, 2007 Robotic Prostatectomy, University of Rochester Medical Center - Tumor confined but larger than thought, only one nerve able to be spared. Margins clear. February 2007 - Three to fo ur pads a day, no erection with viagara. April 2007 - First Post-Surgical PSA 0.02. Down to one pad a day.July, 2007 - Six Month Post-op: PSA 0.04 No change in ED. October, 2007 - Nine Month Post-op: PSA back down to 0.02!Almost totally dry! Only slight improvement in ED - Will try injections if not improved by next appointment. January 2008: One Year Post-OP PSA 0.02 still dripping, but improving. Tried 500 dose of MUSE for ED, no luck. Will try 1000.

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   Posted 4/26/2008 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Great!!!  Congratulations...It seems you have made a lot of good decisions.  Where did you learn that the cauterization could have caused the faulty path report?  Interested because I will go under the knife next Wed with Dr Fagin..
Age 75
DRE positive with nodule 15 Jan 08
PSA 3.8 18 Jan 08
Biopsy 11 Mar 08 Gleason 8 (4+4) on the right 3 out of 12 positive <5%.  Gleason 7 (4+3) on the left 1 out of 11 positive <5%.
Bone scan and CT scan Negative 12 Mar 08
Robot Assisted da Vinci prostectomy with Dr Fagin in Austin scheduled for 30 April 08.

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   Posted 4/26/2008 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Mika, Mike, Doting, Biker (our old Kegel-meister) and Salty - thanks. No matter how far out we get past surgery, it's always so good to hear congrats from those who traveled with us and are on that journey now.

Salty - it's not necessarily a faulty report. It's just that, apparently, the process of cauterizing for bleeding can lead the pathologist to err on the side of caution in his or her report - IF there is some indication of cancerous cells extending past the gland - in our case, there might have been. This came in the report from Dr. Fagin to our local uro. (Sadly, we decided to continue testing at home rather than traveling to Austin every 6 months.) Dr. F. assured us from the beginning that we were fine, but that there was a "chance." He stated the odds and recommended no further treatment. We were so lucky to have found him.
Husband: Age 67
PSA had doubled in 14 mos to 4.3/Gleason 6
da Vinci 8/06 in Austin with Dr. Randy Fagin
Post surgical path shows encapsular penetration; possible bladder neck involvement.
PSAs remain undetectable; no further treatment at this time.
Next PSA: April 08

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   Posted 4/26/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Green Acres - that's wonderful news and what an encouraging future for you & hubby! Celebrate every day!

All the best,
Husband Diagnosed 11/17/05 Age: 63 PSA: 7.96 No Symptoms
2/09/06: LRP - Post Pathology - Gleason 4+3 Stage T2b NO MX
3 mo. PSA: 11.8 Stage T3a
6 mo. PSA: 18.8 Stage IV Systemic w/ distant lymph node involvement
Start HT - Lupron 3 mo. shots
12/06/06: PSA 0.8
03/07/07: PSA 0.3
PSA - Undetectable since 6/07/07

Link to journey:

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   Posted 4/26/2008 8:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Greenacres!
It is only 11.38am our time but I have mixed myself a small "bundy". I hope to follow that up tonight with a glass of Australian chardonnay after 5pm in honour of you AND YOURS!
This is wonderful news. Each year brings such hope. Still waiting for you to let me know when you have booked your trip so I can organise that welcoming party! yeah
Warmest regards to you and your loved ones. And of course "To your HEALTH..". This is great news. Have been waiting to hear from you, and this is FANTASTIC!  Lana
Creed_three (Lana & CJ)
Husband CJ aged 50 yrs (49 years at diagnosis and surgery)
PSA (2002) 2.1.  PSA (2006) 3.5.  1 x (5%) core of 12 positive at biopsy. 11 cores negative. Open Radical Prostatectomy with nerve sparing, on 17th April 2007 (Sydney, Australia).
Gleeson 3 + 4 = 7.  Cancer confined. 1st PSA 0.01 (June 07) 2nd PSA 0.02 (Oct 07) undetectable. 3rd PSA 0.02 (April 08) undetectable.

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   Posted 4/26/2008 9:02 PM (GMT -6)   
It's so good to see the "greenacres" name in the forum again. You guys are an inspiration. Keep the good news comin'!!!

D.O.B - 8/9/52

PSA: First ever was 9.8 in late Oct. ‘06, two weeks later, 10.1

DRE: Negative

Biopsy results 11/22/06.  Both lobes involved.  Six out of eight cores positive - from 100 percent to 90, to 60, to 50, two 20s and two zeros.

Gleason 3+3 = 6

Da Vinci Robotic RP surgery, City of Hope, Jan 12, 2007

Post surgery pathology – Organ confined, Gleason still 6, margins clear.  Volume of tumor much less than biopsy suggested.  12 percent overall.

First post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 2/20/07

Second post-surgery PSA -- Undetectable, 9/11/07

Third post-surgery PSA -- Undetactable, 2/15/08

Surgery for bilateral inguinal hernia repair, 4/4/08 

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   Posted 4/26/2008 10:34 PM (GMT -6)   

cool   :-)   tongue  


Yea!! GreenAcres, Hubby, and MinPin too!!!


18 month   PSA  !!!~~~>>>  Woo~Hoo <<<~~~!!! undetectable


Cause for celebration!!!!!  Definitely!!!

What a wonderful day it is ~ each and every-day….   

Enjoy it to the fullest. 


In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy

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The ultimate “goal”… we all strive for… Thank you for sharing!

It is very important to “all ”of us!  This is a way of positive feedback…

A way of showing others Hope… and a way of Sharing.


J  Caring is Sharing ~  Thank You for Sharing  J



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   Posted 4/26/2008 10:37 PM (GMT -6)   

  tongue    Hey ~ Special Lady,


I guess it’s the same for everyone…. Having that extra special bond with the ones you traveled so closely with at the same time.  There will always be that “something special”… about you ~ for us. 


So nice to see we are still traveling together… I think there will always be that special pull to let others continue to know how we’re doing.  Thank you for continuing to stay close.  When I see you post… a gentle smile appears and a little thought “There’s Green”!!!!


18 Months…………………………………. WOW….. the time is a flying… and the 24th Month will be here before we can say or sing “calafragalisticexpealadocious”


Now for the celebration “Crown Royal” on tap…. We had a little toast this evening with our Asti…  and special thoughts of all our friends who shared their stepping-stones with us.  Salute!!!!!  Hugs and more hugs to each of “YOU”.


Green ~ thank you for you!  You add a richness to HealingWell and you continue to do so with each posting.  You are a special lady and I am honored to call you friend. 


In Friendship ~ Lee & Buddy


P.S. Personal Note:

*MinPin would love the Crown Royal quilt my sister made!!!  Kisses to him..

*Let me know when we’re flying out or sailing out to visit Lana…  I keep looking at the cruise that heads her way!

*I’m not sure where some of your threads went … but I listed the ones that are still active.   Thank you for your special touches that make the path easier for so many.

mama bluebird - Lee & Buddy… from North Carolina


v          We invite you to visit our personal thread:  Click Here:  “Our Journey” ~ Sharing is Caring 

April 3, 2006  53 on surgery day

RRP / Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy

PSA 4.6   Gleason  3+3=6    T2a   Confined to Prostate

4th PSA 2-13-2008 (23 months) Less than 0.1 Non-Detectable :)

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   Posted 4/27/2008 7:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Each and every one of you are near and dear to our hearts. Piano - you had your hernias fixed - good on you. (P.S. I'm here every day - don't always have time to post, but keeping an eye on you and everyone else, especially the noobs.)

MamaB - we keep asti in the fridge for mimosas, so if you're ever in our neck of the woods, we'll be starting early! (The MinPin-aka "Hans-burger" would certainly recognize a Crown quilt - how neat is that?). I was looking some time back for threads from the very earliest days - and they seem to have been dropped past a certain date.

Susan - you're one of the true blessings of this board (among so many), but because you two are such soldiers in this cancer fight and with the warmest hearts and encouraging words for the new ones coming in for comfort.

Lana - you're always up for a celebration, so we'll toast in spirit. We wish everyone could get a chance to visit our favorite country outside of the U.S.

What a group!
Husband: Age 67
PSA had doubled in 14 mos to 4.3/Gleason 6
da Vinci 8/06 in Austin with Dr. Randy Fagin
Post surgical path shows encapsular penetration; possible bladder neck involvement.
PSAs remain undetectable; no further treatment at this time.
Next PSA: April 08

Tony Crispino
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   Posted 4/27/2008 9:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Geez "What a Group". You are so right. A group made awesome because folks like you are here, Greenacres. We have been together so long that when one of us gets great news we all do. And today it's you that lights us up with that warm feeling. God Bless you my friend. And thank you for that great news.

Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
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