Joint pain and PCa

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Date Joined Feb 2008
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   Posted 4/29/2008 10:53 PM (GMT -6)   
I have just been reading Dr. "Snuffy" Myers site and came across his article (dated 8 years ago) advising against the use of chondroitin sulfate and glucosamine (current cartilidge supplements for arthritis suffers) in those suffering from prostate cancer. Given that PCa victims are also liable to be at an age where joint pain is an issue it is a bit worrying. It is his feeling that despite their beneficial effects on joint pain they may be involved with the reoccurence of PCa especially in those with low initial PSA It is most interesting that he advised the use of Celebrex which has just recently shown promising results in conjunction with a cholesterol reducing drug in keeping reocurrence at bay. He also cautions against taking flaxseed as an oil preferring the use of ground meal to obtain the required Omega 3 and Omega 6 intake I have never heard of this before and know that he is held in high esteem in the field of nutrition and PCa. Have any other members come across similar articles that raisied these issues.
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 4/29/2008 10:02:51 PM (GMT-6)

Johnny Canuck
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 88
   Posted 5/1/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
I, too, encountered that advisory you mention, though I thought it referred only to the chondroitin sulfate. I was going to commence taking it again for a flare-up of my ankylosing spondulitis (remember when we thought we could only get nailed by one disease at a time?) Either way, I dropped that and went for zylfalmend and nutra-sea high potency fish oil...along with my regular arthrotec. The supplements were more intended to fight the side effects of brachy, but oughta be good for the AS as well.
The point this brings up, again, is the difficulty in getting educated medical advice about combining standard and alternative therapies. I paid $50 for a half hour with a naturopath to have this discussion...and the chondroitin issue never came up. Bless Snuffy, then.
As to the flaxseed oil...if you investigate the Budwig protocol, while it concedes Snuffy's point, it also stresses that you need to throughly mix the oil with a protein such as cottage cheese to acheive positive results.
Age: 54
Gleason Score: 3+3=6
PSA: 3.33
Biopsy:7/8 Positive
Stage: "Bulky" T1c
Prostate Size: 27cc
Diagnosed: December 05, 2007
Brachytherapy: February 26, 2008
68 seeds, (Iodine 125). 
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