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KrisP
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Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 162
   Posted 5/7/2008 9:28 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm now two weeks and two days post surgery and this morning while taking a shower, and cleaning the underside of my penis, I felt an erection. The penis grew about half the size to my original prior to surgery. By the time I finish my shower it was gone. I have not used any aid as yet with the exception of Levitra (20mg) every other day as prescribed by my doctor.
I've purchased the vacuum pump but he told me to use it after two weeks which will be next Tuesday. I'm just wondering if this is normal for only a couple of weeks after surgery.
Kris
Biopsy done 3/2008
Pathology report: Gleason 6 (3+3), involving left lobe
DRE=15gm with indurated left base and mid prostate
Cores positive: left base medial, left base lateral, left mid medial and left mid lateral (4 of 12)
Clinical stage t2b.
Prostate Carcinorna 185
DaVinci Surgery on 4/21/2008 in Austin by Dr Randy Fagin.
Pathologist report upgraded to a Gleason 7 (3+4)
Clinical stage upgraded also to a T3a
Margins Clear


DanmanBob
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 467
   Posted 5/7/2008 11:12 AM (GMT -7)   

Kris, with prostate cancer surgery recovery, what is normal is a very subjective thing.

With that said, any kind of erection this soon is excellent news.

DanMan


Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008


Frank1205
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 308
   Posted 5/7/2008 1:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Kris,
 
I had an erection soon after surgery in the morning with the Cath in.  I had good erections after the Cath was removed with out medication and especially with. Thats the good news,  now the nots so good.  I am six weeks out and I feel my erections and desire are same or less.  Intercourse has been cancelled for it is very difficult with the leakage continuing.
 
It is has been my experience that this ED thing is up and down ( yeah ) .  We will all be different but any feeling down under has to be a good thing for the future.
 
Frank 
Diagnosed 01-08-08 @ 53 years old 
DRE normal - High PSA for 5 or more years
2004 Biospy negative - 2008 Biopsy positive (01-08-08)
10 cores, 1 positive and at 1% of that one core
Current PSA 6 - Bone and Ct scans negative
clinicalg Staged at T1C - Gleason 3+3 = 6
Robotic Da Vinci performed March 27th, 2008
University of Chicago,5 hour surgery , 3 hour recovery
Unexpected Cardiac issues appear and disappear?
Hospital stay 30 hours - Catheter out in 7 days  normaly expected leakage - Erectile funtion back on line 9 days 
Post Pathology T2C, Gleason 7, 10 % of both portions of prostate, Seminal vessels clear, fat tissue clear,Tumor on bottom of prostate, 1 positve margin  going to meet with oncologist to discuss treatment options if any at this time.
 


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 203
   Posted 5/7/2008 1:32 PM (GMT -7)   
KrisP said...
I'm now two weeks and two days post surgery and this morning while taking a shower, and cleaning the underside of my penis, I felt an erection. The penis grew about half the size to my original prior to surgery. By the time I finish my shower it was gone. I have not used any aid as yet with the exception of Levitra (20mg) every other day as prescribed by my doctor.
I've purchased the vacuum pump but he told me to use it after two weeks which will be next Tuesday. I'm just wondering if this is normal for only a couple of weeks after surgery.
Kris


Kris you are doing fabulous !!!!

any feeling down there means your nerves are there and in good shape.. if you can start doing the Pump Therapy as soon as you can on a daily basis and that should promote more blood flow to that very important ORGAN we all MEN worry about ...
Good Luck and keep us posted with your progress and keep up the good work ....

GB :-) :-)
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Went for open RP with Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY. with nerve sparing of both sides.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence next to nothing, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response for 6 months.
3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.
1 year visit on June 13 2008 woohoooo!!!


Piano
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 847
   Posted 5/7/2008 3:30 PM (GMT -7)   

That sound like great news to me too!

I didn't have nerve sparing, so I expect it will be a long time (1-2 years, if ever) before I am in that delightful situation. The best I can do naturally is occasionally feel a vague stirring in my nether regions if I think lustful thoughts :-)


Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health
Left hemi-colectomy April 2006 (colon cancer)
PSA 5.7, Gleason 4+5=9
RRP 7 March 2008, non nerve sparing
Histology showed clear margins and lymph nodes
Two nights in hospital
Catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
No erections (of course!)
Experimenting with VED and Bimix
 


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 203
   Posted 5/7/2008 4:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Piano said...
That sound like great news to me too!

I didn't have nerve sparing, so I expect it will be a long time (1-2 years, if ever) before I am in that delightful situation. The best I can do naturally is occasionally feel a vague stirring in my nether regions if I think lustful thoughts [img]/community/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]



Piano you should try the pump therapy it promotes artificial erections by helping blod low to the penis .. i hope in time you will find the way to make Mr. happy HAPPY AGAIN !! lol

Keep us posted
GB
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Went for open RP with Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY. with nerve sparing of both sides.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence next to nothing, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response for 6 months.
3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.
1 year visit on June 13 2008 woohoooo!!!

UPDATE: 5/12/2008 ED:
With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse after about 11 months out !!!woooohooooo


kw
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 5/7/2008 6:35 PM (GMT -7)   
KrisP, Any feelings or movement down there at any time is a good sign. Give your body time to heal and just work on it. I'm sure you will be UP to your old tricks soon.
KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 4th, 2008 - Appointment with Original Dr. to discuss options and recomendation for surgical fix for incontinance.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 15, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
 
     


Paul1959
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 598
   Posted 5/7/2008 7:06 PM (GMT -7)   
WOW. You're lucky. Plain and simple. Sure wait two weeks to really test it out. My nurse admonished me strongly to wait 6 weeks to do anything. My Dr, on the other hand, told me to do whatever I wanted and have fun! You'd think they would talk to each other! But, good news for you! The first orgasms are kinda scary and weird. They will get better. You give other guys hope and a goal, though.
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


JFK
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 14
   Posted 5/8/2008 5:43 AM (GMT -7)   
KrisP:
My surgery was April 18, so I think we're close in our recovery time. I asked about the pump when I had the catheter removed, and the nurse told me that I should give the Cialis some time to work first. I decided not to get one and instead give myself some time.(By the way, when I asked the nurse how long to wait before having sex, she replied that the doctor usually advises his patients to at least wait until they get to the car).

Surprisingly, I've been able to experience full and partial erections (with manual encouragement) in and out of the shower. I've been so encouraged, that my wife and I tried intercourse this past weekend...and we both enjoyed it, even without a 100% "useable" erection and the "happy ending" that I used to experience! The nurse told me that increasing the blood flow is important in the healing process, and from what I've read and heard from others, whatever you can do to make that happen improves the odds for recovery. So I say let's carry on - after all, it's therapeutic! yeah
Columbus, Ohio Age 57
Diagnosed: 2-25-08
PSA: 7.3
Gleason Score: 3+3=6
Stage: T1c
Gland volume: 71 grams
Robot. Prostatectomy: 4-18-08 Riverside Methodist Hospital
Surgeon: Dr. John Burgers
Tumor volume: Less than 5% of prostate.
No extraprostatic extension or seminal vesicle invasion.
Margins were free of tumor.


GBINAB
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 203
   Posted 5/8/2008 7:22 AM (GMT -7)   
JFK said...
KrisP:
My surgery was April 18, so I think we're close in our recovery time. I asked about the pump when I had the catheter removed, and the nurse told me

Surprisingly, I've been able to experience full and partial erections (with manual encouragement) in and out of the shower. I've been so encouraged, that my wife and I tried intercourse this past weekend...and we both enjoyed it, even without a 100% "useable" erection and the "happy ending" that I used to experience! The nurse told me that increasing the blood flow is important in the healing process, and from what I've read and heard from others, whatever you can do to make that happen improves the odds for recovery. So I say let's carry on - after all, it's therapeutic! yeah



This is Great News for you both JFK and KRISP....it seems to me in general that with a nerve sparing surgery the DaVinci robotic procedure is the less invasive one of the 2 (compare to open) and the recovery period seems to be much faster ..as had mention n other posts if i had to do it again the only thing i would change is Robotic oppose to my open surgery....however i am on the right track these days an i hope soon i ca be back to pre surgery shape....as far as golfing ..i did not have the chance to get on the course yet BUT i hope soon i will be with the better weather reproaching

keep posting

GB :-)
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Went for open RP with Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY. with nerve sparing of both sides.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence next to nothing, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response for 6 months.
3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.
1 year visit on June 13 2008 woohoooo!!!

UPDATE: 5/12/2008 ED:
With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse after about 11 months out !!!woooohooooo

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