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anglophile
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   Posted 5/8/2008 10:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I haven't seen this discussed and was wondering masterb massage helps speed or hamper the recovery  for ED?
Age 59 - diagnosed in Jan. 08 after biopsy
da Vinci Robotic Prostatectomy 4/11/08 - both nerves spared
Catheter removed 4/25/08
Prostate Pathology:
Gleason Grade 6 (3+3)
Apex: neg
Base: positive (tumor present at right and left base)
Peripheral Margins: neg
No extra postatic extension seen
Tumor corresponds to a AJCC/pTMN stage II
High-grade HGPIN present
Continence: 1 pad night, 2 during day


James C.
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   Posted 5/8/2008 10:23 AM (GMT -6)   

I can't cite any studies off hand, but lots of ED docs recommend early and frequent stimulation, to orgasm if possible, as a part of the ED recovery process of pills, pumps, and penile injections.  Usually you would start a couple weeks after the catheter is out, or the same time a pump is begun.  M-asturb-ation with or without orgasm should stimulate the blood filling, infusion, and help with stimulating nerve regrowth and healing.  If you can get an erection, I say go for it.  If you can't, then try and keep trying, even if flaccid.  It's all about rehab, exercise and repetition. 

Good luck.... tongue


James C.  
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Age 60 
4/19/07   PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07   Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07   Path report:  3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6. 
9/24/07   (Open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed 
9/26/07   Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07  ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08   Caverject started/stopped, aching.  2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
5/7/08     ED- Viagra, pump, no response- Trimix .075ml continues
              Post-surgery PSA's:  3 mt:0, 6 mt:0,


Paul1959
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Every day, my man, every day. My Doctor's Orders!
Even flacid you can and will have an orgasm. My doc said it was also good for my heart. So, I fill his prescription when I can!
Warning, it is not an even path, this ED recovery. You can be hard as rock with viagra one day, and nothing the next. It waxes and wanes, but should overall, move up. Basically, anything to get blood moving and stimulate the nerves. Try to do it when you're not in a hurry. take your time, enjoy it, and consider it part of taking care of yourself.
Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


KrisP
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I haven't thought about this before but I will certainly find out if this is a form of therapy the next time I visit my doctor. Actually my wife suggested this a few nights ago and she was willing to help but I refused and told her that with all my research I have not seen any thing pertaining to this and that I don't want to do anything to hamper my progress.
 
Kris
Biopsy done 3/2008
Pathology report: Gleason 6 (3+3), involving left lobe
DRE=15gm with indurated left base and mid prostate
Cores positive: left base medial, left base lateral, left mid medial and left mid lateral (4 of 12)
Clinical stage t2b.
Prostate Carcinorna 185
DaVinci Surgery on 4/21/2008 in Austin by Dr Randy Fagin.
Pathologist report upgraded to a Gleason 7 (3+4)
Clinical stage upgraded also to a T3a
Margins Clear


biker90
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   Posted 5/8/2008 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
On the day my doc took out the catheter, he handed me a bunch of Levitra pills and told my wife and I to go have sex 4 times in the next week. Didn't happen. I had complete flat tires every time I tried to get anything going. Nerves take a long time to heal. Anything you can do that will stimulate them is good.

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


anglophile
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   Posted 5/8/2008 1:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Good to hear because I was curious about how it felt, minus prostate, and took things in hand four days after the catheter was removed and achieved orgasm. I just wondered if it was good or bad for recovery.

I'll ask my penis coach (that's what I my Penile Rehab Nurse) when we have our first meeting in a week or so.
Age 59 - diagnosed in Jan. 08 after biopsy
da Vinci Robotic Prostatectomy 4/11/08 - both nerves spared
Catheter removed 4/25/08
Prostate Pathology:
Gleason Grade 6 (3+3)
Apex: neg
Base: positive (tumor present at right and left base)
Peripheral Margins: neg
No extra postatic extension seen
Tumor corresponds to a AJCC/pTMN stage II
High-grade HGPIN present
Continence: 1 pad night, 2 during day


StrictlyInc
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Total Posts : 357
   Posted 5/8/2008 3:33 PM (GMT -6)   
M*sturbation is great therapy, even if it doesn't help... it makes you feel better. Given what we've been through, we need all of that we can get, that's how I see it. Anything to get a little functionality out of the little guy!
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (8 for 8) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 26 for 39 = .667

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


VaFan
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   Posted 5/8/2008 5:57 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, this one is maybe not for me to get into with the guys but because my husband and I are going thru it now, just thought I would speak....
My husbands surgeon recommended M* for the healing process and "I" honestly think because its good for the guy after he has been thru such an ordeal. Its a release and after a week or so I got involved and it was good. There haven't been any recordable erections but he has orgasms anyway. He says its alittle strange without a real erection but its no big deal right now.
Good luck and I hope all goes well
Cindy
Age 51 Kent Cindy 49
January 08 PSA 5.2 round of antibiotics went to 4.3
February 08 another round of antibiotics went to 4.2
March 17,08 had biopsy, 2 days later told cancer was on
one entire side of prostate.
Gleason 3+3
Doctor thinks its best to get the whole prostate with Perineal  Prostatectomy.
Surgery scheduled for this Thursday April 10th. Only took 1 1/2 hours. In recovery 1 hour.  Both nerves were spared.
Home 4-11 - incision looks completly healed on the outside by 4-25
Cath out 4-22 dripping some
5-3 Still incontinence with sneezing or coughing but not too bad
Cialis 5 mg at night to start.Stopped Cialis after taking for 3 days as it caused rawness with bm. Will start back in a week or so to see how it goes
 


anglophile
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   Posted 5/8/2008 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
As Dr. Walsh says in his book, "Surviving Prostate Cancer"... half the people in the world have orgasms without erections -- women.
Age 59 - diagnosed in Jan. 08 after biopsy
da Vinci Robotic Prostatectomy 4/11/08 - both nerves spared
Catheter removed 4/25/08
Prostate Pathology:
Gleason Grade 6 (3+3)
Apex: neg
Base: positive (tumor present at right and left base)
Peripheral Margins: neg
No extra postatic extension seen
Tumor corresponds to a AJCC/pTMN stage II
High-grade HGPIN present
Continence: 1 pad night, 2 during day


Piano
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   Posted 5/8/2008 6:27 PM (GMT -6)   
No amount of massage gives me an erection -- self or otherwise. I can massage to orgasm without an erection but it's hard work. I find that a VED (pump) without constriction ring gives a good erection that does not last long enough for sex, but long enough for a good massage to orgasm. Orgasms are every bit as good as before surgery -- if anything they last longer. I'm still experimenting with constriction rings, and once I find something that works, will let it loose on my wife.
 
I have an understanding wife who enjoys cuddles and things that don't involve penile penetration. She is not fazed by failures, but just the same, I don't want to impose too many on her. I prefer to have my failures alone, and as it turns out, some successes too -- all in the name of therapy.
 
Three good things about prostate cancer:
1. You can masturb massage for "medical reasons"
2. The biblical injunction against spilling your seed does not apply -- we have no seed to spill
3. Self stimulation does not make you go blind tongue

Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health
Left hemi-colectomy April 2006 (colon cancer)
PSA 5.7, Gleason 4+5=9
RRP 7 March 2008, non nerve sparing
Histology showed clear margins and lymph nodes
Two nights in hospital
Catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
No erections (of course!)
Experimenting with VED and Bimix
 


kw
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   Posted 5/8/2008 9:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I exercise mine as much as I can.....
Gotta do what you gotta do for healing sake....The only thing I worry about is getting carpel tunnel.....hehehhe
KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 4th, 2008 - Appointment with Original Dr. to discuss options and recomendation for surgical fix for incontinance.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 15, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
 
     


GBINAB
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Total Posts : 203
   Posted 5/8/2008 9:46 PM (GMT -6)   
anglophile said...
I haven't seen this discussed and was wondering masterb massage helps speed or hamper the recovery for ED?

The Dr recommended USE it or LOSE it approach , musterbation and penile therapy can only help speed up matters ..
Good Luck
GB
PS i do it daily if not twice a day at times (as i used to pre surgery) and try ing to use the pump daily as well ....
Good Luck and keep us posted
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Went for open RP with Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY. with nerve sparing of both sides.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence next to nothing, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response for 6 months.
3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.
1 year visit on June 13 2008 woohoooo!!!

UPDATE: 5/12/2008 ED:
With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse after about 11 months out !!!woooohooooo

Post Edited (GBINAB) : 5/8/2008 10:01:38 PM (GMT-6)


StrictlyInc
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 357
   Posted 5/8/2008 11:08 PM (GMT -6)   
GBINAB: musterbation is a good word for it, as we m*asturbate trying to muster an erection...
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (8 for 8) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 26 for 39 = .667

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Grover
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   Posted 5/9/2008 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Anglophile.
Every day...every day. It cant hurt and probably helps keep the blood flowing and re-training the nerves to do what they are supposed to do. After years in Catholic school with the nuns telling us that ********** was a sin, I got a free pass now ! Cant argue with Doctor's orders ! Enjoy yourself. It's a long road back.
Diagnosed Jan 07
PSA 5.79
Biopsy -12 samples, positive in 4, Gleason 3+3, T1c
Age 59
Surgery (robotic) June 1 2007
Final pathology - fully contained to prostate, <2% , Gleason 3+3
No leaking 2 months after surgery (Yahoo !)
6 month PSA <0.01 (Yahoo again !)
ED a work in progress. Taking 50mg Viagra daily.


GBINAB
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Total Posts : 203
   Posted 5/9/2008 9:46 AM (GMT -6)   
chas036 said...
Self stimulation is basically the only way I can achieve a rock solid erection these days. Before my surgery, just a simple thought of sex or a naked woman was all I would need to get a solid woody, but today, all the thoughts in the world do nothing for me. Today the only way I can get a solid erection is with good manual stimulation. But if I stop stimulation, within 30 seconds, I go limp. Then there are other times, like once or twice a week, that I wake up in the morning with a rock solid erection without any self stimulation, so I don't know what is going on with my nerve bundles.


Hi Cahs,
That is a great progress , your nerves are doing well , it takes a long time for nerves to heal ...and if you can acheive a solid erection by stimulation and no other aids (IE meds and pump) you are doing well .. just give it time .. you had said in your profile there was NO ED issued after surgery .. i hope it contimues that way and can ONLY gets better

GB
April 2007 PSA 8.4 for last 6 months biopsy shows PC 3+3=6
June 13 2007 Went for open RP with Dr. Christopher Johnson at St. Francis Hospital NY. with nerve sparing of both sides.
4 days later home for Fathers Day, and Catheter.
Removal of catheter 10 days later , incontinence next to nothing, no pads used from the get go.
1 month PSA next to not detected

ED is a longer battle:1 month out start using occasionally Cialis and 50MG Viagra to promote blood flow with no response for 6 months.
3 months and 6 months PSA not detected
ED 6 months mark starting with VED therapy and being more aggressive with meds , in addition taking Folgard supplement daily.
April 2008 10 month out and start seeing some serious improvements with ED while using Meds and VED , can achieve erections, Mid nights erections almost on a regular basis , and uncontrolled 90 % erections spontaneously.
1 year visit on June 13 2008 woohoooo!!!

UPDATE: 5/12/2008 ED:
With Viagra Usable erection for intercourse after about 11 months out !!!woooohooooo


StrictlyInc
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 357
   Posted 5/9/2008 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
chas036 said...
Self stimulation is basically the only way I can achieve a rock solid erection these days. Before my surgery, just a simple thought of sex or a naked woman was all I would need to get a solid woody, but today, all the thoughts in the world do nothing for me. Today the only way I can get a solid erection is with good manual stimulation. But if I stop stimulation, within 30 seconds, I go limp. Then there are other times, like once or twice a week, that I wake up in the morning with a rock solid erection without any self stimulation, so I don't know what is going on with my nerve bundles.


Ditto here, if the manual stimulation stops, the erection goes down. Hell, before surgery, I didn't even need a thought or image to get hard.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (8 for 8) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 26 for 39 = .667

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Paul1959
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   Posted 5/9/2008 3:22 PM (GMT -6)   
The physical stimulation to get hard apparently lasts for a long time, if not the rest of our lives. It could be worse - better than JR. HIGH when the darn thing had a mind of its own! My friends all say that without viagra, it requires some action to get it hard. With Viagra, I have been able to get hard without paying attention to it. So, either way, no complaints if it can be used at all!

Paul
47 at Diagnosis.
Father died of Pca 4/07 at 86.
1/06 PSA 3.15
1/07 PSA 4.6      (Biopsy 3/07 just suspicious)
10/07 PSA 5.06   (Biopsy 11/07  1 of 12 with 8% involvment) (1mm)
Da Vinci surgery Jan 5, '08 at Mt. Sinai Hosp. NYC  www.roboticoncology.com
Saved both nerve bundles.
Path Report:  Stage T2cNxMx
-Gleason (3+3)6
-totally contained to prostate,
-10% involvement in L & R Mid lobes
PSA 0 at six weeks
Pad free on March 14 - (10 weeks.)
ED - Take 100mg viagra every night.
Totally usable erections at 10 weeks.
 
 


Grover
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 29
   Posted 5/11/2008 6:48 AM (GMT -6)   
To the moderator: I find it interesting and a little inconsistent that in a forum where I and most of us speak freely about sex-related issues, that my use of the M-word got edited out to ************. It's a medical term. We're all adults here.
Diagnosed Jan 07
PSA 5.79
Biopsy -12 samples, positive in 4, Gleason 3+3, T1c
Age 60
Surgery (robotic) June 1 2007
Final pathology - fully contained to prostate, <2% , Gleason 3+3
No leaking 2 months after surgery (Yahoo !)
9 month PSA <0.01 (Yahoo again !)
ED a work in progress. Taking 50mg Viagra daily.


Piano
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   Posted 5/11/2008 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree. The forum software probably has a list of "rude words" somewhere that may be edited, so maybe an administrator could allow that one. The m word is the only one I have been censored on so far, and I have been writing fairly frankly about sexual matters.
 
Automatic forum censors can produce hilarious results. I remember on another forum we were discussing photography -- specifically a picture of a blue tit which is a bird. Discussion on that was automatically censored to blue ***. Which led someone to remark that we were meaning the bird -- not a woman's breast in a cold climate!
 
Edit: I note with great amusement that this forum software allows us to freely discuss a blue tit but not its plural -- blue t*ts  :-)   

Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week PSA: 0
No erections (of course!)
Experimenting with VED and Bimix
 


JFK
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Total Posts : 14
   Posted 5/11/2008 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, if we can't talk about m***********, what about Penile Oral Therapeutic Treatment (Yippee!) or P.O.T.T.Y? Isn't there something to be said about the benefits of your wife giving you P.O.T.T.Y. mouth? yeah
"Stimulate, stimulate, stimulate..."
Columbus, Ohio Age 57
Diagnosed: 2-25-08
PSA: 7.3
Gleason Score: 3+3=6
Stage: T1c
Gland volume: 71 grams
Robot. Prostatectomy: 4-18-08 Riverside Methodist Hospital
Surgeon: Dr. John Burgers
Tumor volume: Less than 5% of prostate.
No extraprostatic extension or seminal vesicle invasion.
Margins were free of tumor.


StrictlyInc
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   Posted 5/11/2008 10:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm guessing that someone in other parts of these forums (i.e., outside of the PCa area) wants the word m*sturbation to stay banned.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (8 for 8) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 26 for 39 = .667

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/11/2008 11:55 PM (GMT -6)   

Hey guys,
Some key words, such as curse words etc. are automatically blocked out.  Why the "M" word is blocked is not clear to me.  Especially given the nature of our threads.  But none the less, its automatically blocked by the Healingwell web engine and not controlled by the moderators.  None of us blocked it.  The only reason I could find that might apply in the forum rules is:

12. If it shouldn’t be viewed by minors, then it shouldn’t be posted to the forums or chat rooms.  This is a public, family-friendly forum. In addition, if something would not be considered “work safe” (to a boss or co-worker), then it shouldn’t be posted.

I would find it amusing to use this rule for why it is blocked.  Because I already knew what it was when I was a minor...LOL.  But it is well understood in the thread.  The points are interesting...
 
Tony



Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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Piano
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 847
   Posted 5/12/2008 12:28 AM (GMT -6)   

Thanks Tony,

It's not a biggie. We can all derive some amusement from creative mis-spelling. I guess a strict interpretation of Rule 12 would mean there shouldn't be any discussion here on ED. Fortunately minors won't be interested in old fogies' problems -- there are much more interesting -- and explicit -- sites for them than this one.

I promise not to mention blue *** again, although I might mention a blue cock if my constriction ring gets too tight. Whoops! -- how did that word get through?  :-)


Age 63. Other than cancer, in good health; BMI 20
Pre-op: No symptoms; PSA 5.7; Gleason 4+5=9; cancer in 4 of 12 cores
7 March 2008, RRP, non nerve sparing
Two nights in hospital; catheter and staples out after 7 days
Continent, no pads needed from the get-go
Post Op: Stage pT2 M- N-; clear margins and lymph nodes; Gleason 4+4=8; prostate weight: 37gm
6-week PSA: 0
No erections (of course!)
Experimenting with VED and Bimix
 


Grover
Regular Member


Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 29
   Posted 5/12/2008 7:47 AM (GMT -6)   
When I was in college, living with several other students in an apartment, we all brought kitchen utensils from home and took turns cooking. We found we had 2 turkey basters, but one was larger than the other. It was dubbed the "masterbaster" tongue Let's see if that gets past the censors !
Diagnosed Jan 07
PSA 5.79
Biopsy -12 samples, positive in 4, Gleason 3+3, T1c
Age 60
Surgery (robotic) June 1 2007
Final pathology - fully contained to prostate, <2% , Gleason 3+3
No leaking 2 months after surgery (Yahoo !)
9 month PSA <0.01 (Yahoo again !)
ED a work in progress. Taking 50mg Viagra daily.


phillysub
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 64
   Posted 5/12/2008 2:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Please...I beg of you - whatever you do, don't refer to "that word" as the "M" word!!
 
I'm up to my eyeballs with the PC group (and I don't mean prostate cancer) where you can't say anything and it has to be referred as a "letter" word.
 
Let's use our creativity to refer to "that" word.
 
 
Phillysub
Phillysub.

Age: 51
Last PSA before diagnosis: 2.9

Diagnosed: Oct 2007

Gleason: 3+3=6

RALP surgery: Jan 23, 2008 (Dr Costas Lallas @ Thomas Jefferson Hospital in Philadelphia)

1st Post-op appt: Feb 1, 2008 (negative margins, cancer contained within the capsule)

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