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Salty_clark
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Posted 5/9/2008 7:56 AM (GMT -8)
well folks I looked up at ole' man death and I poked him in the eye! I said, "Come back another time, I am not ready to go yet." And he politely turned away...
I am still not aware exactly what caused me to be 2 pints low on the blood supply the night of my surgery ..there wasn't anything to indicate any problem during the procedure as everything was accomplished just as planned as discussed in our consult the PM before. A possible answer is my age cause, let me tell you folks if you are not already informed, this surgery thing is a young man's game not for old pharts like me. And the fact that I was a medical risk ( though never discussed with Dr Fagin. and to his credit that he accepted me) I figured if I had any difficulty it would be my heart but it held up just fine...my only remaining kidney was the culprit when it just said thats enough and shut down and I wasn't putting out any urine. They gave me 5 units of blood and that got it restarted. my blood pressure went down to something like 50-60 over 40. I didn't go into coma so I just lay there and watched the excellent Doctors and nursing staff of the Westlake Hospital scurrying about doing this and doing that and then one of the nurses cried out, "Hey, I see some urine coming out in his bed bag." I asked, "How much?" She responded, "Just a little trickle but that means the kidney has been jump-started!" A doctor explained to me later that a body-defense mechanism allows the kidney to shut down when it is surrounded in blood. I received 5 pints of blood and my pressure started to climb...it was just not my time...
I stayed on in intensive care until discharged on 6 May. My wife and I saw Dr Fagin and had the catheter removed and got the Path report. While waiting for Dr Fagin to come in with the report I was preparing the wife for what I fully expected to be a less than favorable report and I had resigned myself to returning to El Paso and to continue some other type treatment options for the spreading disease. My pre-op Gleason of 4+ 4=8 weighed heavily on my mind. Then Fagin arrived with the glorious news that not only were my margins clear but the Gleason had been downgraded to a 3+4=7.
Path finding:
The right and left seminal vesicles and ampulla are free of tumor.
The distal margin of the prostate is free of tumor.
There is an adenocarcinoma in the prostate. It is a conventional acinar type. It is present in both sides of the prostate. On the right side it is present in five out of 10 levels. In the left side it is present in nine out of 10 levels. The predominant Gleason grade is 3. There are smaller areas of Gleason pattern 4. This is a Gleason's 3+4=7. THE TUMOR IS CONFINED TO THE PROSTATE . It DOES NOT extend into the extraprostatic tissue. The surgical margin is NEGATIVE. Stage pT2c. Needless to say there were a few tears and neck hugging and an almost disbelief of our good fortune. After being reassured that this was indeed the case then the sheer reality of the moment captured us all and the hugging continued. I am sure that this fine human being and superior Doctor has experienced these types of scenes in his illustrious career many times over in previous encounters with his many patients. He said no further treatment required. He told me to go home and rest. set in the sun and recover....
My wife and I returned yesterday the 8th to El Paso. Today is my birthday...yes 76 today and hopefully there will be a few more. So, I am sitting here soaked as I have started the battle now of continence...another hill to climb for this old soldier...
Thanks everyone for all your kind words and prayers...and..an especially great "Thanks" to Kris...We have shared the same foxhole...Thank you Friend.

P.S. Just before surgery I asked Dr Fagin what number I was...he checked some sort of hand held gadget and told me I was number 1348 that he has operated on with the da Vinci...that has become my lucky number.
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James C.
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Posted 5/9/2008 8:04 AM (GMT -8)
Good news and good deal.  It's always sweet when you can kick death around.  Glad you are home and recovering.  Hopefully the hard part is over and you can concentrate on healing....Good luck

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KrisP
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Posted 5/9/2008 8:30 AM (GMT -8)
Hi Salty,

Happy Birthday and wishing you many more to come.

Great you arrived home safely and in good spirits. Will call you later.

My regards to your family

Kris

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siberian
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Posted 5/9/2008 9:02 AM (GMT -8)
salty,,great news --and what a winning atitude.

good luck man

siberian
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wallypm
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Posted 5/9/2008 9:13 AM (GMT -8)
Salty, good news glad to hear another old timer is puttering on. That Dr Fagin must be a marvelous man and I dare say a good number of the 1348 seem to be on this board..
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biker90
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Posted 5/9/2008 9:42 AM (GMT -8)
Hey Salty,

They just can't get rid of us old guys. Congrats on a great path report too...

Jim
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smilingoldcoot
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Posted 5/9/2008 10:07 AM (GMT -8)

yeah  Good to see ya old soldier, Sir!

I was at one time a high basketball star at Ysleta High School out in the days when it was called the Valley.

Last time I was back there was 1997 for my 40th homecoming reunion. 

I lived with my coach Gordon 'Buddy' Moore after my mother died from cancer.  His son was the coach for many years at Clint High School.

Anyway, the best to you and your family and again so good to hear your good news.

Richard yeah yeah yeah

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Dutch
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Posted 5/9/2008 10:25 AM (GMT -8)
So glad to hear that, even with all of the problems you incurred, you came out with a great path report.  Continued wishes for your recovery.    Dutch

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lawink
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Posted 5/9/2008 2:31 PM (GMT -8)

Wow Salty - amazing journey you've been on . . so glad you made it okay.  Thanks for checking in, we've all been awaiting your return.

;o) Linda & Bob

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creed_three
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Posted 5/9/2008 3:07 PM (GMT -8)
Hi Salty,

What an incredible ordeal! However what a terrific result for you too with the downgrading of the Gleeson. Happy birthday and we hope you have a wonderful, wonderful celebration today and always! Best wishes to you and your family. Lana & CJ
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Frank1205
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Posted 5/9/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -8)

Salty,

Man O Man, gee wiz and Holy Cow.  Your situation was amazing.  What an example of True Grit.  I am so happy for you and your family.  I hope your recovery goes very well you deserve it.

Happy Birthday and God Bless

Frank

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anniea
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Posted 5/9/2008 9:49 PM (GMT -8)

Hi Salty,

I am so glad everthing went well for you. Its rare to hear of a Gleason being downgraded, That is wonderful news. I am glad you and your wife are back home and recovering. Its so nice to be prepared the worst and pleasantly surprised with good news. I wish you all the best and a very speedy recovery.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

Diana

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GreenAcres
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Posted 5/10/2008 5:25 AM (GMT -8)
Congrats on the numbers, clear report, and being back home!

I know you were ready to leave Westlake, for sure, but isn't it a great place?

Now you can get down to business and carry on!
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anglophile
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Posted 5/10/2008 9:04 AM (GMT -8)
What an inspiration to us "younger guys" recovering from surgery. I'm glad to hear things are working out for you.
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Tim G
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Posted 5/10/2008 3:07 PM (GMT -8)
Congratulations on Number 76 and Number 1348!  Hope you have a quick recovery and good test result.   Three cheers for Salty!  \0/ \0/ \0/ 
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Doting Daughter
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Posted 5/10/2008 6:45 PM (GMT -8)
Happy birthday and congrats!!!
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