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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 28
   Posted 5/14/2008 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I had surgery 9 days ago
73 years old
PSA 4.5
biopsy 2 out of 12 70% and <5% presurgery GS 6 no after report yet.
Robotic surgery
I cant hold a drop unless I am sitting or lying
am interested in anyone else's experience. eyes eyes

Gary H
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 34
   Posted 5/14/2008 8:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Ace06 9 days you most of just had the cathader taken out? It takes time some guys dry up very quickly others take quite so time. I am 4 months down to one pad per day. I can also hold it sitting and lying. but I don't have time for that. give it time you'll be ok and hang around alot of your question will be answered here.

 Age 48
 PSA 46 Oct (07)
 Gleason 3+4=7
 Biopsi 11 of 12 pos.
 DaVinci Jan 08 Dr W. Johnston
 Evanston Northwestern Illinois
 Post Op  PSA .7
 Started Lupron April 1st
 Radiation June (08)?????

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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 467
   Posted 5/14/2008 8:59 PM (GMT -6)   
How many days out of the catheter?
Was in catheter 22 days....then used 12 pads the first couple of days after catheter was removed, then gradually 10 pads, 5-6 pads.....and now only a FEW....FEW....drops daily.
Do your kegels, walk and hopefully things will get better soon.
Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008

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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 5/14/2008 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   

    Ace,  Hang in there.  You are just now starting to recover from a major surgery.  Odds are on your side that you will dry up within a few months.  And if not,  you can still manage an active life and there are other options you can try.

    Good Luck,  KW


    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.

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Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 30
   Posted 5/14/2008 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hang in there. I had my catheter in for 45 days, and when it was removed I thought I would never stop leaking. But after about 12 weeks I was pad free. Just give it some time, and do your Kegels.
56 years old
Had 3 Prostate needle Biopsies done in the last 8 years all negative.  
Last Biopsy done on July 6th, 07 Positive in one sample.
March 2007 PSA 10
May 2007 PSA 12.1
Pre-surgery Gleason grade 3+3=6
Sept 4, 2007- Robotic Laparscopic prostatectomy Surgery Nerve-sparing right side, took half of the left side, 
                    took Seminal vesicles, and vas deferens, bilateral, and 
                    Lymph nodes left side, pelvic. NO Malignancy found out side of
                    the Prostate.
Post Surgery, Pathologic Stage: pT2(m) NO Mx
                   Gleason score: 4+4=8
                   Tumor volume: approximately 35%
 Oct 19, 2007 - Catheter removed after 45 days
 Oct 31, 2007 - Start Pelvic Floor Muscle Rehab, once a week for 6 to 12 weeks for incontinence.
 Dec 18, 2007 - 1st Post op PSA  0.0 (undetectable)
 March 20, 2008 - 2nd Post op PSA Less than 0.04 (undetectable)

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Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 1211
   Posted 5/14/2008 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ace,
I'm just about your age and had the open RP in 2006. It took me about 2 month (after cath removal) to become fully dry. I understand that this is not uncommon.
Best of luck for a quick and full recovery.

Born Sept., 1936
PSA 7.9
Stage T1C
-ve DRE
Gleason's Score 3+4=7
2 of 8 positive
Open RP 28 Nov 06
Post op staging T3
Gleasons still 3+4=7
Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06
Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA test Mar., 08 =.04 

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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 9
   Posted 5/15/2008 8:41 AM (GMT -6)   
This is my first post. Ace - feel your frustration. Had my catheter pulled (or should I say yanked!!) yesterday and I feel like I have no control. From everything thing I've read things should improve greatly over time. Hang in there.

Age: 50
Gleason: 7
PSA: 14.7
Robotic surgery 4/28/08
Nerves spared on both sides
Cancer contained in prostate, no margin

Regular Member

Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 48
   Posted 5/15/2008 9:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Ace, you and I are about the same age, I had my catheter out 5/8 and am having similar experiences. From my observation on the postings I wonder if age is also a factor. I'm doing the walking and kegels but see no improvement yet. Also I've noticed that by afternoon I run out of gas and may need a nap. Yet I havn't become too discouraged yet as many have reported that it can take weeks or months.
Age 70 -  Diagnosed late March
PSA 5.52 - stage T2b,T2c
Gleason 7 (4+3)
quad heart bipass 4/06
surgery on 4/28/2008, Greensboro NC by David Grapey
path report showed  lymph nodes clear cancer has spread to the margins gleason (4+3)
catheter removed 5/8

Regular Member

Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 28
   Posted 5/15/2008 11:27 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the replies. I never enjoyed walking alone. My Catheter was removed on Monday, 4 days ago. My surgery ( De Ventia Robotic) was performed in Arlington, Texas, USMD Hospital by Dr. Scott Thurman assisted by Dr. Green from Denver Co. (A training session I suppose) Surgery time 2hrs. 35 min. Recovery room 1hr. Dr. Thurman(very young) has performed over 300
Radical Surgeries. I have been very impressed by both Doctors and Hospital. The Hospital is owned by Physicians. tongue  

Regular Member

Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 42
   Posted 5/15/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Ace

From my experience the improvement happens gradually for most people. Mine was pretty bad until after 12 weeks when there was a sudden improvement. Hang on in there,it takes time to heal and the muscles working.
Dx Age 48 Nov 07
Psa 4.5, Biopsy 2/8 cores positive Gleason 3+3
No perineural or lymphovascular invasion in the biopsy specimen.
Rushed to RRP without much research- Jan 08

Geason 3+3 ,10% both lobes, There is perineurial invasion
No extraprostatic spread seen , Seminal vesicles normal,Nerves spared
Cancer close to apex but margins clear T2c NXMX
Incontinence pretty bad until April 08- suddenly down to 1 pad
ED - started cialis once every 2 or 3 days from April but no improvement
1st post op Psa <.1 (May 08)

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