Did you know in the USA we are concidered disabled?

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Roger G
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   Posted 5/23/2008 7:02 AM (GMT -6)   
A female co-worker who is currently fiighting an agressive form of breast cancer, handed me a print out from the following web site.
 
 
She was running into problems with her boss who was expecting a lot out of her while she was under going chemo.  Turns out that she is protected from this kind of pressure by the Americans with Disabilities Act. nono
 
... and so are we... go figure.  Here is the example they quote.  The second example would cover anyone who has had their prostate removed.
 

2.   When is cancer a disability under the ADA?

Cancer is a disability under the ADA when it or its side effects substantially limit(s) one or more of a person's major life activities. 

Example: Following a lumpectomy and radiation for aggressive breast cancer, a computer sales representative experienced extreme nausea and constant fatigue for six months.  She continued to work during her treatment, although she frequently had to come in later in the morning, work later in the evening to make up the time, and take breaks when she experienced nausea and vomiting.   She was too exhausted when she came home to cook, shop, or do household chores and had to rely almost exclusively on her husband and children to do these tasks.  This individual's cancer is a disability because it substantially limits her ability to care for herself.

Example:  A telephone repairman with an advanced form of testicular cancer has chemotherapy and surgery that render him sterile.  He is an individual with a disability under the ADA because he is substantially limited in the major life activity of reproduction.

 
 
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 


wallypm
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   Posted 5/23/2008 7:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting , eyes
Age 70 -  Diagnosed late March
PSA 5.52 - stage T2b,T2c
Gleason 7 (4+3)
quad heart bipass 4/06
surgery on 4/28/2008, Greensboro NC by David Grapey
path report showed  lymph nodes clear cancer has spread to the margins gleason (4+3)
catheter removed 5/8


anglophile
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   Posted 5/24/2008 9:06 AM (GMT -6)   
When do I get the handicapped parking permit?
Age 59 - diagnosed in Jan. 08 after biopsy
da Vinci Robotic Prostatectomy 4/11/08 - both nerves spared
Catheter removed 4/25/08
Prostate Pathology:
Gleason Grade 6 (3+3)
Apex: neg
Base: positive (tumor present at right and left base)
Peripheral Margins: neg
No extra postatic extension seen
Tumor corresponds to a AJCC/pTMN stage II
High-grade HGPIN present
Continence: 1 pad night, 2 during day


Swimom
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   Posted 5/24/2008 9:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Ahhhh, I'm not disabled thanks. You may be Roger but leave me out of the classification.

Paul
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/24/2008 9:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes I know Cancer is considered a disability. I wasn't working after my surgery, and my oncologist told me I would qualify. But my head didn't agree. I had a new job before we even started the adjuvant therapies. (I'm a telephone dude ~ except on for the dark side - I'm in sales). I can provide better for the family working though. And I Love to work.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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Swimom
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   Posted 5/24/2008 11:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Tony,

You are still in treatment (congrats on a good result so far) therefore it is more difficult to do some things now. That is a understandable. The effects can be disabling for a lot of people, this is true. Been where you're at with zero testosterone, radation plus surgery myself. Only it was testicular cancer.

For my own purposes, if I call myself disabled then I send the wrong message to 2 really great kids who have spent a lifetime learning to "move forward" as my wife likes to say. Our kids will say, I have a disability, I am not incapable. A lable forced on a man who can't ejaculate as disabled puts a dent in my male ego I guess. I thought it was the man, not his sperm that matters. After 2 issues in that department the last thing in the world someone like myself needs is to have his peers refer to him as disabled. Its insulting. Paul
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/24/2008 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Paul,
However, I can see where severe incontenence is a disability for some of our brothers. I am amazed how some of the guys can keep working with this issue. I have a close friend who lost a leg in a motorcycle accident who thinks that I have a tougher go at it with just the HT. But this is not disabling me from doing my job. And I want my son to see me working through it too.

Also,
I am glad that this qualifies under ADA. The fact of the matter is that I quit my last job after 16 years when I told my new management what I was dealing with. Their response was that "this is a place of business, if you need to take time off, then take time off". That individual had worked at the company less than 8 months. But she was supported by the other new VP's. After that, I left. Could I have sued? Probably, and probably should have. But I have never felt that I wanted to take an easy road. Besides, I keep winning the business away from them....LOL. By contrast, my new employer has totally given me support through my ailment. They let me work from home, they allow me as much time as I need after treatments (I get fatigue after a Lupron shot for about two weeks), and they allow me to donate time to different charities. Some companies deserve to pay out, some deserve recognition for their compassion. Good law.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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Swimom
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   Posted 5/24/2008 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
We're taking this too far Tony. Blanketing all prostate cancer patients and calling us all disabled is not the same as saying under the FMLA / ADA, there are legal protections for people undergoing treatment / living with chronic or disabling physical challenges. The wife is a labor organizer in her other life and has spent many hours defending employees on the job. What little I know comes from dinner table!

Each act does have its own protections yet some work tandem in the workplace. Just because a condition is considered a "disability" doesn't mean special work provisions have to be made. The situation with your old employer falls more under FMLA protection yet, you are considered to have a disability due to the implications of your cancer treatment. Now that you have a new employer, who hired you knowing your health situation, the ADA applies more so. FMLA applies but is secondary to the the rules of the ADA. If and when you no longer need special provisions (keepin the faith you won't soon) for PCa reasons, the law becomes less protective even though having a history of PCa is still tagged a "disability." Not everyone needs protections of the ADA and FMLA but, maybe one or the....so the U.S. has both. Our daughter for example falls under the ADA but her life threatening summer of 2004 fell under the FMLA. It had nothing to do with her disability even though it severely affected her heart. Not so hard to figure out really. I don't believe I personally can call myself disabled unless I want to become a porn star.

Paul
 


Roger G
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   Posted 5/24/2008 2:50 PM (GMT -6)   

Wow, Sorry I posted this.  I think it's gotten WAY out of hand.

No where do it suggest that you can get a handicap sticker for your car.  This is a gross stereotype of a hadicapped person.  You might want to consider getting one however if your by yourself and suffering while chemo.  If you need one, by all means put your pride in your back pocket and go get one.  When you done with the sticker also by all means hand it back in.  The little old ladies at church who hang on to them (and use them) long after the ill husbands have died drive me nuts.

Sorry I'm also not into Machoism for stupidities sake.  This is the same reason most men did not talk about prostate cancer years ago, and why a lot of us DIED.  My father being the prototypical manly man did not want anyone to know something was wrong until it was WAY too late.

After you are done your treatments and are back to normal, by all mean start leading a normal life.  Not all of us have the option of quitting our jobs for prides sake.  I have a wife and two small children that need support in a tough economy.  Now if I had an employer who would not accommodate me during the rough stages, I would by all mean try and find another job first and foremost.  But this option is not always practical.

All this article states is that your employer

  1. has to make accommodations for when your under going treatments.  Whether that be surgery, chemo, or radiation.
  2. has to allow you time to go to the doctor appointments and follow ups.
  3. has to make REASONABLE accommodations when your return.  Say something like extra bathroom breakers to change your pads.

Now if they cannot do these simple things, by all mean look else where.  If this is not an opition however, you do have rights.


Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 

Post Edited (Roger G) : 5/24/2008 3:05:14 PM (GMT-6)


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 5/24/2008 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   

Roger I think this is a good post. 

The truth is that those with more advanced cases and have to have chemo might need the handicap placard due to severe side effects or fatigue, and should not be made to feel that they are sacrificing their pride.  I do not need one but if I did, I would hate to think someone might think I lack pride.  And quitting my last job was not about pride either.  There is more information to process, but I thought it rather rude for them after 16 years at the company to be so cold about an employee with cancer.  We would not need ADA laws if all employers were capable on their own of making the right moral decisions about loyal employees who are afraid they might never be the same or even die.  But the truth be told, there are those who would drop us rather than pay higher premiums or tolerate a radiation schedule.  As a person in charge of many, I would never do that.  In fact that guy I mentioned above has a prosthetic leg, and now works for me again.  He has to use the placard, and he is a very proud man. (Rightly So).

 

Tony


Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (1/08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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Johnny Canuck
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   Posted 5/24/2008 8:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Funny how this comes up in the prostate forum, but I have been given on of those placards to use, due to a condition called ankylosing spondilitis. I look fine 'til I'm not. I'm considered disabled because if I do the physical duties of my job...a printer...all the nasty symptoms kick in, and I suffer a bunch of grief.

So I'm now considered disabled, on long term disability and a government pension. Pride doesn't come into it. If I treat myself well, I look fine. Sometimes that means a short walk in the parking lot instead of a long one. Ain't nothing wrong with using the accomodation being accorded one's self. In fact, my biggest problem is in insisting upon doing stuff that I used to...and that comes from misplaced pride....and it causes me suffering.

So let's not try to define other's disabilities, unless you're walking in their shoes. Sure, curse the abusers of the placards, but don't make somebody feel lessened if they have accepted the tag 'disabled'. Even if it comes from the needs of incontinence. Still gotta hold your head high.

Finally, being off for my back has helped me to adjust to the PCa, so there's some small blessing. I use my tag when I need to...guilt-free.
Age: 54
Gleason Score: 3+3=6
PSA: 3.33
Biopsy:7/8 Positive
Stage: "Bulky" T1c
Prostate Size: 27cc
 
Diagnosed: December 05, 2007
Brachytherapy: February 26, 2008
68 seeds, (Iodine 125). 
 
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kw
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   Posted 5/24/2008 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   

    It is a good thing I have a good Gov't Job.  They have never said a word about my bathroom breaks or any of the time I have taken off for treatments.  I do have to use my saved leave.  I'm not sure what I could do if I ran out of leave? 

    KW


    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
 
     


Swimom
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   Posted 5/24/2008 10:29 PM (GMT -6)   
KW,

Not gonna go into it but look up the Family Medical Leave Act and its provisions. You will find your answer there.

swim
 


ace06
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   Posted 5/27/2008 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I guess I am a fanatic about handicaps and work ethics. I had an opportunity to draw unemployment one time, gave the check back and told them all I wanted was a job. I have often said, if I could crawl from the parking lot to the store, I didn’t want a handicap sign hanging in my car. Understand I haven’t been there yet and I am thankful. I have a couple of grandkids running around with diapers and it doesn’t seem to handicap them. I like to work and have often said I want to be working when I die. I was digging stumps with a backhoe 10 days after I had Devintia Robotic surgery. I regretted it that night. I didn’t say I am smart, just that I like to work. I don’t know whether it is heredity or environmental but, I am worried about a generation of children who don’t know how to work and are always looking far a government handout.
Age 73
PSA 4.1 in Nov 07. 4.5 in March 08 after antibotics
Biopsy 2 Pos out of 12, 1- 70%, 1<5%
Preop Pathology 3+3 contained no postop yet
robotic surgery May 5th 08
Doing good except very wet


Tim G
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   Posted 5/27/2008 10:42 AM (GMT -6)   
ace06 said...
I guess I am a fanatic about handicaps and work ethics. I had an opportunity to draw unemployment one time, gave the check back and told them all I wanted was a job. I have often said, if I could crawl from the parking lot to the store, I didn’t want a handicap sign hanging in my car. Understand I haven’t been there yet and I am thankful. I have a couple of grandkids running around with diapers and it doesn’t seem to handicap them. I like to work and have often said I want to be working when I die. I was digging stumps with a backhoe 10 days after I had Devintia Robotic surgery. I regretted it that night. I didn’t say I am smart, just that I like to work. I don’t know whether it is heredity or environmental but, I am worried about a generation of children who don’t know how to work and are always looking far a government handout.

      Liked your analogy about the grandkids in diapers, Ace.  I am worried about the next generation because my generation of Baby Boomers may bankrupt them.  For Pete's sake, the full retirement age for social security benefits is 66 and the life expectancy is way beyond what it was when social security in the U.S. was first begun.  I expect to work full or part-time until at least 70. 

Swimom
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   Posted 5/27/2008 12:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Ace,

Having laws created to protect disabilities is a good thing! I'm glad they are there. We're fortunate to live in a land where everyone has an oportunity to make a difference dispite physical/learning challenges. I couldn't care less how one physically achieves his/her own personal success ....just do it and be proud!!

Our children, all 3 have (had) signifiicant challenges. Our son is not so much. He has a rigid hip which limits some types of occupations while our oldest daughter is a lifelong heart/lung patient. Add on the challenge of being moderately learning disabled and we'll find most in her position are not employeed at all. So far, her employers have been amazing. As the care giver / mom, I find it is the general population that is least accepting and most expectant, not employers. Employers are usually pretty good.

Both our son and our daughter are encouraged to get out there and make a difference in the world...to make their mark in life the best way they know how. I advise against too much involvement with support groups so as not to limit their focus to a single challenge. The world isn't going to wait until they catch up. They have to run to meet the world! Sometimes it has become necessary and the laws are made to protect them but, only when the need is present. When there is no need...move forward :>) I take no different approach in support of my husband. PCa or TCa is not who he is but rather something he had. It does not deifne him in any way. Disabilities do not define us, we do! If you need to crawl ACE, because this is what you need to do for yourself, I have but one suggestion.....wear knee pads! :>)

God Bless, Swim
 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 5/29/2008 6:24 AM (GMT -6)   
WOW, You sure have a way with words Miss Swim! As you know I don't post much anymore but just have to chime in on this one. Remember how I got layed off right after my surgury almost 5 years ago? How my boss, the jerk that
he is lied to me and told me he was selling the company and had to let me go even though I had doubled his business in the 2 years I had worked for him? Then never did sell and refused to take phone calls from me. I remember you suggesting to me that he did it for insurance reasons and he should be shot! He was recently bought up on Fedreal charges that he was paying cash for overtime and is now in jail. Guess who turned him in? No it wasn't me, it was his nephew!! Ha, I guess what goes around sometimes comes around.
I never felt like anyone owed me anything, not even him. Yes, I struggled w/ my hypogonadic depression for years but pulled myself out of it w/ much help from you and others here and went out and found another better job because thats me. But I too am glad the laws are there to protect the ones who can't help themselves and have great respect for the ones despite the odds, do.
Your old friend,
Pete
PS> I lost 60lbs!!!! YEA!!  

55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06. Fighting to stay upbeat daily, I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!!


StrictlyInc
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   Posted 5/29/2008 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
darn... people seem sensitive in here lately.
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (11 for 11) = 1.000
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 29 for 42 = .690

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Swimom
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   Posted 5/29/2008 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey ya Pete..you stranger you! Glad you are still alive and kickin aroudn minus 60??? Wow!

I do recall the situation with your bleep of a boss. Sounds like Karma paid him a visit!

Swim
 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 5/30/2008 4:13 AM (GMT -6)   
Swim,
I liked what ypou said above, your opinions have always seem to reflect mine, scary! Anyway, yes I'm still around and do check in to see what everyone has to say. There are so many new members and the forum has seemed to change since the old days. I don't remember all this bickering and hostility back then. The last couple times I did coment or respond to some of the subjects that came up, I didn't get any responce at all. I don't think it's because I'm over sensitive, well maybe I am, I can't seem to keep my testosterone over 200. But thats one of the reasons I don't post anymore. I have a urologist apt. next week and I'm going to tell him I'm sick of the testim he keeps me on and ask for a compounding script for a stronger dose. Sorry everyone for being off subject and jumping around, I'm a dingy hormonal old dude. Swim, Biker and Jet I will be PMing you guys soon as I would hate to lose our friendship!
Your dingy old friend,
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 years depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06. Fighting to stay upbeat daily, I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!!


Swimom
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   Posted 5/30/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Pete,

Paul started on 100mg weekly injections with 1/2 mg of arimidex twice a week. He's on his second week and already feels a lot healthier already. Hope we can talk soon. Shot me an e-mail.

Swim
 


Swimom
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   Posted 5/30/2008 8:14 AM (GMT -6)   
Oh my, I was so excited to hear from you Pete, I typed all funny lookin!
 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 5/30/2008 8:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Swim, see my PM> let me know if you didn't get it!
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 years depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06. Fighting to stay upbeat daily, I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!!

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