Injections for incontenance

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DeannaLee
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   Posted 6/6/2008 2:56 PM (GMT -6)   
My husband had 2 slings inserted without success. His Urologist suggests they try either Coaptite injections or Collagen injections. If anyone has had these injections, would you please inform us how you got along and how you feel, etc. He is sick of operations, who can blame him. Also, did you have this done in the office or hospital?
Very appreciate of any replys.
 
Deanna Lee

biker90
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   Posted 6/6/2008 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Deanna,

There's a guy here that calls himself kw that has been down that road. He's on vacation now but you might want to look up his story in the links section. Second line from the top on the main screen.

Good luck...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


DeannaLee
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   Posted 6/6/2008 5:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey, thanks Biker Jim! I'll keep KW in mind.

DeannaLee

Gene214
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   Posted 6/7/2008 7:22 AM (GMT -6)   

Deanna,

I am sure KW will respond when he gets off vacation, but he has had several calagen injections and a male sling and then another injection or maybe two with litle success.  Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. 

I too am one of the continuing incontinent guys and understand the frustrations.  When KW gets home, he says he will begin the road to Artificial Urinary Sphincter, the only seeming cure for the continuing problem.  I am scheduled for one (AUS) in July now and also an IPP.  I am going to post a new thread for the benefit of those who live in the DFW area about an up-coming seminar discussing these devices.

Gene214



Radical open removal 2-14-07, Gleason 3+3=6
Removal of stricture 6-07, incontinence continues
Bio-feedback (4) 08-07 (no improvement)
Scheduled for AUS & implant 05-08
Surgeon cancelled one day pre-surgery, due to cardiac concerns
Nuclear stress 5/13/08
3 stents 5/27
AUS, IPP scheduled 7-08
63 years old at time of nerve-sparing surgery

Post Edited (Gene214) : 6/7/2008 2:25:46 PM (GMT-6)


DeannaLee
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   Posted 6/7/2008 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Gene: thank you so much for your reply.
How is your general health? His is good. He is an excerciser and also a senior citizen.
I haven't hear of Artifical Urinary Sphincter,maybe my husband has.
I will watch for any thing about this procedure and thanks plus good thoughts and the best of luck (whatever that is)
DeannaLee

Gene214
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   Posted 6/7/2008 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   

My health is, I think, good now. Thanks to an observant surgeon who was about to install an AUS and IPP, my surgery was delayed because of a past coronary event.  Further testing revealed three blockages which needed stents.  They are in place and I now hope to proceed with the surgery soon. 

You can Googal "Artificial Urinary Sphincter" and get all the info you need, and probably a lot more.  It is a device which is surgically installed which acts in the place of one's removed prostate sphincter.  Simply put, it gives back control of one's urination to those who never regain the control after prostate surgery.  The draw back is that... it is surgery and it is a mechanical device.  A male sling cannot give that kind of help to one with severe incontinence.

Gene214


Radical open removal 2-14-07, Gleason 3+3=6
Removal of stricture 6-07, incontinence continues
Bio-feedback (4) 08-07 (no improvement)
Scheduled for AUS & implant 05-08
Surgeon cancelled one day pre-surgery, due to cardiac concerns
Nuclear stress 5/13/08
3 stents 5/27
AUS, IPP scheduled 7-08
63 years old at time of nerve-sparing surgery


DeannaLee
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   Posted 6/7/2008 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello again and the very best of luck to you. Have you had sling procedure? You don't need to telll me of course, it is a very personal thing. My husband has had two and it looks as though neither is successful. He does urinate on his own
several times a day and a couple times at night. He does not leak when he coughs or sneezes. Most days he uses 3-4 pads but occasionaly, he used only two. It's bad though, I'm afraid.
It happens he does know about artificial Unrinary Sphincter - and I have tried to find information on the internet. He seems reluctant to have that done, and one can't blame him either,
his surgery was very hard, (as are many)and so was the last sling surgery.
The Uroligist said that his bladder was small. What the heck does that mean? What is nerve sparing surgery?
Thanks, Gene DeannaLee

DeannaLee
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   Posted 6/7/2008 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   

Gene - my husband had open heart surgery when he was 51.  He had one stent afterward.  He has exercised in a class for almost 20 years.  He's in very good shape, but that doesn't alway mean anything!This is a great board, sorry I didn't find it before.

DeannaLee

 

 

 


Gene214
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 422
   Posted 6/7/2008 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   

No I have not had a male sling and things are usually not too personal on this forum, since we are annonymous posters, usually.

I sense your husband does have some control, and that is good.  I also assume he practiced keagals.  It would help if you went to the control panel and filled out a profile. That will enable us to know a bit more about you and him.

Gene214


Radical open removal 2-14-07, Gleason 3+3=6
Removal of stricture 6-07, incontinence continues
Bio-feedback (4) 08-07 (no improvement)
Scheduled for AUS & implant 05-08
Surgeon cancelled one day pre-surgery, due to cardiac concerns
Nuclear stress 5/13/08
3 stents 5/27
AUS, IPP scheduled 7-08
63 years old at time of nerve-sparing surgery


kw
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 6/10/2008 9:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Deanna, I had two collagen injections, the AdVance male sling, then two more collagen injections. Unfortunately neither has given me any long term relief.
The injection arent all that bad. If he is only leaking a little it might be worth a try! I do not like the idea of having the AUS done at 45 years old. But it looks like my only option at this point.
My personal e-mail is on my HW profile. Feel free do drop a line any time you want. I am also willing to talk on the phone if you or your husband wish too.

Good Luck,
KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
 
     

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