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geon
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   Posted 6/19/2008 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I am looking for inputs from other catholic men that are and have been married for some time and their current dealings with intimate sex with their spouses.  The lack of normal erections makes things difficult when the libido is at a high to exercise normal IC.  Are there other avenues that are taken to satisfy the marital unitive love and intimacy required a couple?
I'm wondering what is OK under the situation with no ejaculate , no normal erections and well beyond the child bearing age.  We have been married for 41 years and the sex drive is still there.  What to do?
 
Thank you,
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon


DanmanBob
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   Posted 6/19/2008 10:03 AM (GMT -6)   
geon,
 
I am not Catholic, so I probably do not understand what you are asking, but from looking at your profile, it mentions that you use injections for erections....which I presume you then use for intercourse.  Wouldn't intercourse satisfy the intimacy that you are questioning?
 
 
 
 
Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 6/19/2008 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marc,
My email is enabled and welcome you to contact me directly. I am Catholic, and understand some of what you may be feeling. Obvious to us, there are things here that may not be understood by all here, but that's OK. This disease is not religion specific, and it requires us each to deal with this in ways our religion, or non-religion allow us. For me it is difficult to discuss but I am unable to have IC due to hormone therapy and have no libido or erections.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 9 '08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
And at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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livinadream
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   Posted 6/19/2008 7:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I to teach Catholicism and would gladly chat with you via email.

peace to you
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


Swimom
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   Posted 6/19/2008 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Catholics do it differently than the rest of us? Who knew?
 


phillysub
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   Posted 6/20/2008 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I am Catholic and have to admit that I don't understand the concerns.
 
Having IC is just one way to share intimacy. There are other ways.
I'm sure the folks who have offered to chat with you off-line can explain.
 
Good luck in getting your issues resolved.
Phillysub.

Age: 51
Last PSA before diagnosis: 2.9
Diagnosed: Oct 2007
Gleason: 3+3=6
RALP surgery: Jan 23, 2008 (Dr Costas Lallas @ Thomas Jefferson Hospital in Philadelphia)
1st Post-op appt: Feb 1, 2008 (negative margins, cancer contained within the capsule)
1st PSA post-op: May 23, 2008 - <0.1 undetectable


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 6/20/2008 10:33 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL, Swim you make me laugh. Of course we do it differently. And it takes a lot less time...LOLOL.

Seriously, perhaps a disussion with a priest is the best advice for you, geon. Truly your feelings are not wrong, or unwelcome. But offline might be better?

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 9 '08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
And at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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biker90
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   Posted 6/20/2008 10:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Geon,

From on catholic to another - do whatever it takes to get well. Take care of your quality of life any way you can and let the church take care of itself...

Jim
Age 73. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


JCL
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   Posted 6/21/2008 4:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm Irish-Catholic, Geon, and I have to say I'm in total agreement with Biker Jim on this one. I could not have said it any better myself. Do whatever you have to do my friend.

Jack
Biopsy: Diagnosed March 25, 2007. PSA 3.0. Gleason 6. Five of twelve samples positive with <5% each. No perineural invasion seen.
Surgery: May 21, 2007, Florida Hospital, Orlando,FL
Post-op Pathology: Upgraded to Gleason 7 (3+4), negative margins, negative capsular penetration, negative seminal vesicles, lymph nodes left intact, multifocal perinural invasion, 15% of prosate involving cancer in both lobes. T2c
Continence/Erections Out of pads at five weeks. Fully continent and can achieve erections.
Post Surgery PSA: Five tests, all <0.1
Family history: Great-great grandfather died from PC. My Father had his prostate removed at age 67 in 1997 and has had an undetectable PSA ever since. I was diagnosed at a much earlier age and had a more agressive cancer than my father. Go figure.


myman
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   Posted 6/21/2008 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Swim...the answer to that is yes but if I tell ya...well, we won't go there ;-)
Husband Diagnosed 11/17/05 Age: 63 PSA: 7.96 No Symptoms
2/09/06: LRP - Post Pathology - Gleason 4+3 Stage T2b NO MX
3 mo. PSA: 11.8 Stage T3a
6 mo. PSA: 18.8 Stage IV Systemic w/ distant lymph node involvement
Start HT - Lupron 3 mo. shots
12/06/06: PSA 0.8
03/07/07: PSA 0.3
PSA - Undetectable since 6/07/07

Link to journey:
http://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=35&m=826731


geon
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   Posted Yesterday 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   

Swimom,

Not that we catholics do things any different then the rest of you, but there are some christian morality issues that need to be addressed for those of us Catholics recovering with ED from RP.  So to not cause a stir, these personal issues will be dealt with on a private basis unless of course you would like to know how Catholics do it?. 

I want to thank those who are catholic for stepping forward and making private conversation possible.  We are all here to support each other in one way or another aren't we?

Thanks, Marc

 

 


64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon


Swimom
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   Posted Yesterday 4:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Geon,

I suspect they are the same issues that pretty much all churches have...good thing we arent' talking about a church here.
 


Roger G
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   Posted Today 8:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Personally, I'd love to know what I was not suppose to do.
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 


lawink
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   Posted Today 1:33 PM (GMT -6)   
You know Roger . . as Catholic's ourselves I think everyone is really referring to the big "M" word . . . . however, in our honest opinion and conscience I think that "M" as a method of rehabilitation, after prostate surgery, would be just that . . .rehab and shouldn't be a concern. . . . .we are not a religion to reject medical intervention. Again, our opinion only.

;o) Linda & Bob
Bob (62) - Laproscopic Prostate Removal Sept 27, 2006 at age 60.
2 of 12 malignant biopsy samples - gleason 3 + 3 = 6.
Pathology - Gleeson 3 + 4; stage T2; cancer completely contained, even a second more aggressive, previously undetected cancer) PSA UNDETECTABLE Nov 2006; Feb, May, Oct 2007; May 2008.  WHOOO HOOOO! 
Bob also has two secondary conditions -- Polycythemia (elevated red & white cells & platelets) and . . Myelofibrosis) -- If anyone has experience with or information on these, please email us.


VaFan
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   Posted Today 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Geon,
I personally am not Catholic and am not versed in whatever it is that you can or cannot do. But I do know that there are so many good people on here and from one end of the spectrum to the other..they are here to help. I know you will find your answers and we wish you all the best for a full recovery and peace with the decisions you make.
Cindy and Kent
Age 51 Kent Cindy 49
January 08 PSA 5.2 round of antibiotics went to 4.3
February 08 another round of antibiotics went to 4.2
March 17,08 had biopsy, 2 days later told cancer was on
one entire side of prostate.
Gleason 3+3
Doctor thinks its best to get the whole prostate with Perineal  Prostatectomy.
Surgery scheduled for this Thursday April 10th. Only took 1 1/2 hours. In recovery 1 hour.  Both nerves were spared.
Home 4-11. Cath out 4-22. Incision looks completly healed on the outside by 4-25.  Incontinence "a thing of the past" as of 5-28
lst PSA 0.04 June 3. YAY!!!
viagra up to 100 a day and feeling some change. Keep our fingers crossed.


BillyMac
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   Posted Today 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Is this pussifooting about matters sexual really necessary? If you read the above, 50% have no idea of the question being raised which in the poser's mind is a legitimate moral dilemma. What I gather he is asking is that given his lifelong catholic instruction (and I have been there.......I would describe myself as a thankfully lapsed catholic) he is now having to face a situation (i.e. the necessity for musturbation and/or mutual musturbation for remedial or intimate reasons arising out of medically caused ED) that brings many of those moral convictions into conflict with what he has always been taught. This pussifooting is said to be based on the notion that children of PCa sufferers may visit Healingwell. I had occasion recently to seek some information on the AIDS/HIV section of this very same Healingwell site. That forum on this site is of necessity very explicit so I do not understand why we in the PCa must at times be so vague.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.1 undetectable

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 6/23/2008 10:10:28 PM (GMT-6)


BillyMac
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   Posted Today 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I have just read how my first post finished up and I just can not believe it. mad Therefore I have changed the spelling somewhat so at least it made sense.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.1 undetectable

Post Edited (BillyMac) : 6/23/2008 10:09:24 PM (GMT-6)


StrictlyInc
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   Posted Today 9:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Would be at least educational for the non-Catholics to get a clear statement of what the hell we are talking about.

I always thought with m*sturbation the issue was the spilling of seed. apparently not...

Hey, National ********** Month is over, but I see no reason to stop now...
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007)
- 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007); 4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (13 for 14) = .929
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 31 for 45 = .689

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Roger G
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   Posted 6/24/2008 7:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I was a good Catholic boy: church on sunday, catholic grade school and high school, squire in the Knights of Columbus, etc... and it got to show you are never to old to learn something. Thanks BillyMac for speaking in plain english.

I'll have to do some additional research to find out what other rules I broke.

But with no seed to spill, I guess it's not a problem. Musterbation is a must for recovery after all.
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 


41diagnosed
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   Posted 6/24/2008 7:37 AM (GMT -6)   

God knows we all have enough emotionally to worry about getting well, keeping positive thoughts of not having recurrence, and being strong for ourselves and others in our families.   I wish for all the ability to, without regret or additional emotional burden, enjoy whatever physical pleasure you are still able to.  Since none of us comes away in some form or another physically and or emotionally unscathed from the PCa experience, my heart goes out to those who have more to be concerned with relative to recovery than simply making the most of their post PCa treatment situation, however good or bad as it may be.

BTW, should anyone have concerns for themselves, my eyesight is still fine despite as much mutual or solo therapy as my busy schedule can accommodate :) 


 
42 yo. now
 
5/07 PSA 4.65 at routine physical
6/07 biopsy positive for cancer...Gleason 3+4...diagnosed at 41 y.o.
6/07-9/07 manic research and interviews with physicians across the country in search of the "right" decision.  I went to Mass General in Boston, Loma Linda, University of Chicago and Northwestern.
9/17/07 - Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy Surgery at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago by Dr. William Catalona.  Thankful the father of the PSA test was right here in Chicago.
 
Post op pathology was Gleason 3+4 with negative margins, no seminal vesicale involvement, no lymphatic or vascular invasion, bladder and urethral free and tumor volume was 5% of 27.3g.  
 
9/27/07 - Catheter removal...let the games begin...
 
12/07 - Threw out the pads.  I only had to use 1 pad per day for protection against minor drips. 
 
I started Trimix 8 weeks after surgery with success.
 
I hope someday I won't need injections, but I hope more that my PSA stays at 0 forever.
 
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 6/24/2008 7:58 AM (GMT -6)   

Hey team, this is some clarification and some IMHO.
I spoke to our Admin about religous discussion and also as it pertains to prostate cancer with this thread.  The reason I proposed to take it offline to Marc was merely to not stir the masses but there was really no need to do so.  This discussion is on topic for those who have to deal with treatment, side effects, and moving ahead, but struggle with how to in THEIR religous interpretation or environments.  BillyMac is insightful in his references in this thread to not only the stimulation part but there is also a question about sex and procreation, and a moral position that the Catholic and other churches are "specifically vague" about.  I personally attribute it to too little attention given and spoken about prostate cancer not only by churches in general, but our brothers as well. My conscience tells me that as long as discussion of this nature is who we are, and there is no attempts at "conversion" or or forcing ideals to other members then we are on topic to discuss it.  This can be a divisive issue if we allow it to be.  So please respect our differences and as War-Eagle Walt says, provide the understanding that this site is so strong in giving.  Marc and I have leant each other our thoughts and I believe I can easily coexist with the thoughts all expressed in this thread.

My advice to anyone feeling this same lament is that you go with your conscience. 

A note about the ill-advised reference to the 15 year old viewers I made. 
We were experiencing some discussion that was sexually illicit when I posted that reference.  In fact, it had nothing to do with an offended individual but in other areas of threads that were off topic.  I made a post that included three separate issues that should have been referenced separately.  Please forgive me, I am perfectly capable of those mistakes but I learn from them. 

To all, please don't make me regret this post?!

Tony



Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 9 '08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
And at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
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Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 6/24/2008 8:01:52 AM (GMT-6)


James C.
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   Posted 6/24/2008 8:09 AM (GMT -6)   

Personally, the way I read the rules issue is that we should maintain a medical or clinical language when discussing sexual or ed issues.  That, to me, means no off-color joking, no off-color words used, no "guy teasing" and such.  We have discussed every side of these subjects since I have been here, and there was never anything said.  The subject and the resulting discussion was done is an adult, medical, and straightforward manner.  The recent dustup began from the start of off-color jokes, sexual innuendu and such.  That did have to be corrected before it developed into locker room antics. 

In that context, I see no problem with discussing the ethics or morality of various sex methods other than the missionary position for us.  I consider what I have had to do to rehab and retrain my body to be medically necessary, not something I would otherwise do to this extent or enjoy.  If these subjects are dealt with in an adult manner, they are a valuable and large part of needed information for all of us post-treatment guys.  There's no need to hint around, go off-line or hide between the lines what we are discussing, as far as I am concerned.  Lets just title the posts dealing with it in a clear manner so anyone looking at the threads know what is being discussed and continue sharing......


James C.
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Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
5/7/08 ED- Viagra, pump, no response- Trimix .075ml continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


Swimom
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   Posted 6/24/2008 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Spilling of the seed is correct! Someone paid attention in class!


So....since the obvious (vasectomies and prostate surgery) had not been created yet and God is the one who gives man the tools he needs to be creative.......should we not be creative with the tools we have? Just my thought on the subject.

Swim
 


James C.
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   Posted 6/24/2008 1:45 PM (GMT -6)   
aardvark2, the spelling substitutions are an intergal part of the main software package of the whole forum.  That's how it comes from the software company that sells it.  As such, it's really difficult, if not impossible to alter the coding for that part, I imagine, to 'fix' what some see as a defect or fault in it.  It is what it is,   sorry..............

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
5/7/08 ED- Viagra, pump, no response- Trimix .075ml continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 6/24/2008 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
aardvark2,
This has never changed. I noticed it when I first arrived 19 months ago.

Tony
Age 45 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 9 '08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
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