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   Posted 7/3/2008 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Taking Lupron and Casodex takes away the ability to sleep for me. The doctor prescribed me Ambien CR 12.5mg and it works great, however after a few days in a row it sure makes me forget things and my kids told me that i have gotten up at night and listen to music with them and I have no memory of it the next day. Does anyone have other remedies that help with sleep?
peace and love to all
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores

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Date Joined Jan 2008
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   Posted 7/3/2008 7:49 PM (GMT -6)   


My ADT+IMRT has had the opposite affect on me. I can sleep most anytime.

Wish I could send you some.


Richard yeah tongue yeah

Retired USAF Richard & Debbie on The Shores of Toledo Bend Lake Louisiana
Biospy 1/10/08 Gleason 10, Stage T1C  8 of 12 samples positive all Less Than 5% 
Jan & Feb & Mar all tests clear
MD Anderson = No surgery and No Proton only Hormone and IMRT
Contacted with Loma Linda and UFPTI in FL
Started Treatment at the U of Florida Proton Therapy Institute in April 2008
May 2, 2008 LUPRON & Casodex
IMRT to started  5/27/2008 Will get 42 treatments 25 IMRT and then 17 Proton
Turn Stumbling Blocks into Steping Stones and Keep Smiling
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Date Joined Jun 2007
Total Posts : 75
   Posted 7/3/2008 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry to hear about your sleeplessness. Don't have much advise. Our hospital prescribed the same medicine you're taking but my husband never needed it, like Richard, he can sleep anytime.
Dutchy's husband
Diagnosis: 7/6: PSA 1,946, multiple bone metastases in thoracic, lumbar spine, pelvis, bilateral ribs and proximal left tibia, 2 weeks Casodex (50 mg)

Treatment: 3 monthly Lupron injection (22.5 mg) + Zometa (4 mg IV). Added daily Casodex (50 mg) in September 2007.

25/06: PSA 407
20/08: PSA 3,7
29/09: PSA 0.7
14/10: PSA 0.17
18/12: PSA < 0.003
15/03: PSA <0.003
15/05: PSA <0.003

May 2008: diagnosed with advanced colon cancer

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Date Joined Jun 2005
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   Posted 7/3/2008 8:21 PM (GMT -6)   
From the time I started on HT I have not been able to sleep more than 15 or 20 minutes without waking up. Ambien and Lunesta each worked for a week. Then I was given temazapam (Restoril) and I only wake up once or twice a night, which I attribute more to my advancing years than to the HT. No side effects.

[And yes, Tony is a wonderful guy who made me see the error of my ways, and I'm back.]

1/2005 Dx PSA 26.5 Gleason 7 (4+3) @Age 61
1/2005 Start Casodex and Zoladex
PSA drops to <0.01
7/2005-8/2005 5 weeks of IMRT and then HDR brachy
1/2007 Rad Oncologist orders CT scan of pelvis
because of complaints of pain in both thighs
MRI confirms pain not caused by cancer BUT
1/2007 CT scan of pelvis picks up a nodule at bottom of left lung
5/2007 CT scan of lungs shows 1/2007 nodule has grown and
there are numerous nodules on both lungs.
6/2007 Thoracic surgeon removes wedge of left lung for biopsy
6/2007 Path report says 95% chance of metastatic PCa, but she's
never seen cells like this before.
8/2007 2nd opinion at M.D. Anderson in Houston.
They confirm: mutated PCa, very rare, but seen there 2 or
3 times. Recommendation: have CT scans every 6 weeks
and watch for change. At that point start chemo and will
survive for 22 - 24 months thereafter.
PSA still undetectable, but get Lupron shot to bring T down from 27
2/2008 Trip to Houston – PSA now 0.5 and nodules larger. Lupron shot.
6/2008 Trip to Houston Finally got results from doc. A number of lung nodules have grown, but, more importantly to him, is the fact that the malignant lesion on my pelvis seems to have flared up and he wants me to start chemo. He said I could wait a few months, but I told him I want to start now. He to get me signed up for a clinical trial in nearby NY.

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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 65
   Posted 7/3/2008 8:56 PM (GMT -6)   

My husband has a harder time staying awake than trying to sleep, but it is due to his pain meds. Not sleeping is so frustraing and I have always felt that sleep aids only work for a few days and then you start laying in bed waiting for them to work and nothing happens. Are you watching caffeine intake and eating foods with sugar and such before bed? Maybe a homeopathic remedy would help.

Good Luck,

Karen eyes

Karen--New York
Husbands Info:
Age of diagnosis--62
2/28/08--PSA 279   DRE--positive/rock hard
Flomax and Casadex started
Biopsy--3/7/08--187cc--Gleason 10--12 of 12 positive--Perineural and LV invasion identified
T4 bone met.--hydroureteronephrosis/right kidney
3/28/08--Lupron Inj. started
4/7/08--Zometa IV started
5/15/08--PSA 12
5/20/08--Tubes placed in kidneys (through back)
5/21/08--diagnosed Neuro Endocrine Prostate carcinoma
5/28-30/08--1st round Chemo
6/18-20/08--2nd round Chemo

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Total Posts : 1382
   Posted 7/3/2008 10:09 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for the responses, it sounds like I have an opposite problem than most hear. I probably do drink to much ice tea, but I do avoid sugar. I think I will check out the homepathic remedies.

peace and love to all
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores

Regular Member

Date Joined Mar 2008
Total Posts : 203
   Posted 7/3/2008 10:19 PM (GMT -6)   
The natural herb Melatonin helps alot of people I know.
Ambien can be a bear. I have taken it for years and the kids would wait till about 20 minutes after I took it to get their bad grades signed! The next day, I was told how I got up, ate, watched tv and remembered nothing the next day. Try Herbal!!
Age 51 Kent Cindy 49
January 08 PSA 5.2 round of antibiotics went to 4.3
February 08 another round of antibiotics went to 4.2
March 17,08 had biopsy, 2 days later told cancer was on
one entire side of prostate.
Gleason 3+3
Doctor thinks its best to get the whole prostate with Perineal  Prostatectomy.
Surgery scheduled for this Thursday April 10th. Only took 1 1/2 hours. In recovery 1 hour.  Both nerves were spared.
Home 4-11. Cath out 4-22. Incision looks completly healed on the outside by 4-25.  Incontinence "a thing of the past" as of 5-28
lst PSA 0.04 June 3. YAY!!!
viagra up to 100 a day and feeling some change. Keep our fingers crossed.

Regular Member

Date Joined Oct 2006
Total Posts : 444
   Posted 7/3/2008 11:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Dale
Fortunately I am not taking any form of HT.  However, after I was diagnosed with PCa in September 2006, I started to have sleep problems.  Prior to that time,  I usually went to sleep immediately without taking any medication.  My doctor prescribed Ambien CR 12.5 mg for me.  I cut the pills in half as they are very strong.  The half dosage worked fine for me.  After taking them for a year, Medicare would no longer approve them for me without trying some less expensive generic sleeping pills for 90 days.  I immediately changed to the generic form of regular Ambien (Zolpidem Tartrate 10mg) and was very happy with it.  Again, I only take one-half of a pill or 5mg and they work just fine for me.  I hope eventually to eliminate any form of sleeping pills. Perhaps you should consider cutting back the doseage of the Ambien CR or change to the regular Ambien (including the generic).  I think that the Ambien CR 12.5mg are very strong and can result in tiredness and other negative side effects the next day.
The other important thing for sleep are your habits before going to bed for the night. You need to take time to unwind and avoid activities that would stimulate you before bed (e.g., tv).  Maybe some reading or soft soothing music.  I also do a few deep breathing exercises after getting into bed (take a deep breath, hold it for 5 seconds and then release it).  It really can relax your body. 
Here is a website with some helpful sleep suggestions:
Best of luck

-69 years young!
-29 core biopsy 9/27/06 at age 68
-PSA 7.1, Stage T1c, Gleason 7 (3+4) [less than 20% in one area], Gleason 6 [less than 5% in two other areas], Negative DRE, bone scan and Endorectal MRI. 
-Completed 39 Proton radiation treatments 2/22/07-4/18/07.   
-PSA History: 7.1 pre-treatment; post treatment: 2.1 (3 mo.), 2.4 (6 mo.), 1.7 (9 mo), 1.6 (12 mo.).  Radiation oncologist said: the 3-mo. drop of 70% exceeded expectations; the slight 6-mo. bump up was not a cause for concern now; expected drop in 12-18 mo. is 75%.
-The following is a link to My Journey With Prostate Cancer -- Proton RadiationTherapy.  

Post Edited (pcdave) : 7/3/2008 10:26:00 PM (GMT-6)

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