Oral meds with injections

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DanmanBob
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   Posted 7/11/2008 2:33 PM (GMT -6)   
I know that some, such as biker, take Viagra and/or L'Arginine one or two hours before injecting.
 
Question for those who inject - do you take oral meds before you inject or not?
 
Question for those who have tried it both ways - what difference have you found when taking oral meds an hour or two before injecting compared to not taking oral meds prior to injecting?
 
DanMan
Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008


James C.
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   Posted 7/11/2008 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I take generic Viagra 50mg a couple hours before injecting, along with 2000 mg l-Arginine, and no, I see no difference that it makes to the results, which is none... tongue
James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


DanmanBob
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   Posted 7/11/2008 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   

JamesC, when I refer to results, I mean the short term results....ie the results from that injection...for example, does the erection last longer...too long....get firmer.....etc.

When you said NONE, I believe you might be thinking I was referring to results later without meds, which I was not in this instance.

DanMan


Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008


Pete42
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 114
   Posted 7/11/2008 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I have on occaision taken oral meds (Viagra or Cialis) along with an injection. It makes the erection firmer for me and I need less of the bi-mix to get good results. P.S. I mentioned this to my Dr. and he strongly advised mixing oral meds with the injection
Diagnosed 1/26/07
Stage Tc1
Gleason 6
PSA 3.8
12 samples, positive in one 15%
Biopsy - 1% involvement, no bladder neck, Gleason 3+3, Tc1
Age 51
Surgery (robotic) May 4 2007 City of Hope
Final pathology - fully contained to prostate, TC1, Gleason 3+ 3
Fully continent one month
First Post op PSA - Undetectable
Second Post Op PSA (8/22/07)- Undetectable
ED- start injections 10/06/07
3rd Post op PSA 11/7 - Undetectable
 


biker90
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   Posted 7/11/2008 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
I used 50 mg viagra and 2000 mg L-Arginine about 2 -3 hours before injecting .03 ml Trimix. This worked well producing a useable erection about 15 min. after injecting and lasting about 1 1/2 hours. A little bit of self stimulation before injecting helps get the process started. I found this combination after lots of trial and error. Balancing quality of erection with quantity of meds is an individual thing and each of us must find our own way here. Doctors in general have no personal experience with injections and use guidelines in advising us. My first few doses of Trimix lasted way too long (6 hours) and I threw out what the doc told me and started my own routine.

In general I believe that the less med I inject in myself, the better I will be in the long run. That's why I started using Viagra and L-Arginine along with Trimix.

Jim
Age 74. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 1/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 7/17/08
Lung cancer dxed on 5/16/08.  Surgery on 6/25/08  T1N1M0 - Stage IIA
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."

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