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Posted 7/17/2008 7:25 AM (GMT -6)
Has any one had experience with Medicare Part D paying for Cialis and Trimix?
I have not had any success in locating private or Medicare insurance willing to pay for at least a portion of the meds.  Also, if not, Any solutions where on can legally purchase good grade ED meds? Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.
 
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon

Posted 7/17/2008 12:23 PM (GMT -6)
Hi geon,
I live in Canada and have no experience with your "Medicare Part D". We have to pay for ED med out of our own pockets here and it can be quite expensive (about $10 - $12 per 100mg pill). A lot of us here at this forum are using a web based supplier called 'AllDayChemist' and found their service and quality of their product second to non. If you make a search on this forum for "AllDayChemist", you will find several comments about the supplier. Their web address is ,'alldaychemist.com'. Hope this helps.
Wishing you all the best.
 
Magaboo
Born Sept., 1936
PSA 7.9
Stage T1C
-ve DRE
Gleason's Score 3+4=7
2 of 8 positive
open RP 28 Nov 06
Post op staging T3a
Gleasons still 3+4=7
Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06
Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05

Posted 7/17/2008 1:00 PM (GMT -6)
Medicare will not cover ED medications for anyone. It's such a shame.

Swim
 

Posted 7/17/2008 7:43 PM (GMT -6)
Magaboo and Swim,

Thank you for your input. Does AllDat Chemist require prescriptions?
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon

Posted 7/17/2008 9:18 PM (GMT -6)
geon,
 
alldaychemist does not usually require prescriptions for ED meds.
 
I ordered 240 pills without a prescription, although I had one but never had to provide it.
Danman Bob, Born 1951
Nerve-sparing, open prostate surgery November 13, 2007
Gleason score 9, PSA 14; Biopsy result - 9 of 12 sticks showed cancer
Post-op pathology stated that cancer was confined to the prostate
Unrelated surgery January 2008 delayed incontinence recovery, which is now showing good signs of improvement (fraction of a pad a day as of late April 2008)
100 MG Viagra 3 times a week beginning December 2007
Osbon Erec-Aid Esteem manual pump for therapy beginning mid-February 2008
30 MG papaverine/1 MG phentolamine bimix injections beginning late April 2008
Five week post-op PSA 0.2, five month post-op PSA 0.1, next test August 2008

Posted 7/17/2008 10:48 PM (GMT -6)
Thank you DanmanBob.
No issue with the Fed's?
Is plastic charge OK?
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon

Posted 7/18/2008 6:19 AM (GMT -6)
yes, we have purchased all 3 ED drugs through alldaychemist and have been pleased with the results and we use our credit card. we have had a few odd things happen - there are other people's orders (who have the same last name as us) in our account, we receive a lot of junk email now about ED issues (I assume they come through using this site) and once we didn't receive the double order, but I emailed them and a few weeks later the pills arrived. it does take a while to get the order and it comes from India. we will continue purchasing Levitra through them. I believe they no longer carry Cialis, though. it is a shame that US health insurance does not cover more of the cost of this, especially when it's due to having cancer.

kat
Husband Jeff 56 years old diagnosed July 27, 2006
PSA 6.5, 2 positive areas in biopsy, Gleason 3+3=6
Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy August 30, 2006
pathology report - all clear - cancer gone
1st post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 2nd post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 3rd PSA <0.1
no more pads Oct 12, 2006
first "real" erection with use of pump 12/16/06
3/07 - occasional dribbles and erections with Cialis and pump
8/07 - 1 yr PSA <0.1
9/1/07 - achieved erection with Viagra - no pump!
3/08 - 18 mo PSA <0.1
switched to Levitra - works much better than Viagra & Cialis - fewer side affects

Post Edited (M. Kat) : 7/28/2008 11:39:01 AM (GMT-6)

Posted 7/18/2008 7:22 AM (GMT -6)
I would be interested; I have tried the Levitra from alldaychemist and do not feel it works as well and was going to try the Viagra from alldaychemist. I have fought the battle with my insurance also to no avail.
Ron
Age:58
Diagnosed 10/07; 2 0f 12 positive, T1c, Gleason 6
Initial PSA of 4.6, DRE Negative, Brother had PCa
Bone Scan, MRI, negative
daVinci Robotic 12/15/07; Pathology 25%-one side, margins all good
Final Gleason 6, 3+3
6 wk. PSA=0.06!
No incontinence after catheter removed, Yeh!
Levitra + pump works; no response otherwise.

Posted 7/18/2008 7:28 AM (GMT -6)
Thank you M.Kat.
I'll verify the Cialis unavailability.
Appreciate your input and the best tp you and yours.
Marc
64 years old 100307; healthy; active,
married 41 years, good strong erections before surgery.
DaVinci Prostate Removal February 5, 2007
2/12 samples malignant.
Catheter removal 2/13.
Viagra 25mg every other day from 2/14 to 5/12.
Tried Viagra 100mg on occasion-no erections.
Incontinence almost gone after three months.
No pads, occasional  dribble.
Lavitra every other day 5/12 to 7/22.
Muse 1000mcg - no help (50% at best).
Cialis twice a week 7/25 to 11/6/07.
Vacuum pump daily/twice a day 8/2 and going - no help.
Begin Trimix injections, two low dose per week, 11/05/07.
Currently, vacuum pump and low dose Trimix twice per week each.
Trimix in office - 0.10cc.  Low dose set at 0.05cc
First drug induced erection 10/8/07....Wow!
Natural erections - 0 as of 10/25/07.
PSA's, three to date undetectable.  Thank God!
 
Geon

Posted 7/18/2008 10:13 AM (GMT -6)

Personally, I would have difficulty ordering drugs from India, where governmental  and pharmaceutical  industry oversight of drug manufacture is not as strict as it is in the U.S., Canada and Europe. Caveat emptor.

I agree that Medicare should cover ED meds, but the system is in dire straits already, so they have to make cuts where they can.  Wait until all of us soon-to-retire baby boomers strain the system beyond its limits with the resultant economic storm. How will our children support our huge numbers in retirement and pay for it all?  I don't think the best minds in America--including either presidential candidate--have a clue how to handle this.

Off the soapbox now...Tim

 

 

Posted 7/18/2008 10:34 AM (GMT -6)

TimG, the India companies we use for generic ED drugs manufacturers to the same world standards as any other legimitate sellers anywhere else in the world.  They market probably 95% of the worlds countries, and have done so under strict control and inspection of several world drug standard organizations, so their safety and performance is outstanding and meets all recognized international standards.  Just because a drug doesn't have the "made in America stamp" doesn't mean it is unsafe, etc.  Billions of people in the world each day use drugs not made here, safely and usually cheaper.  I don't hesitate to use the India drugs, having researched the companies and seeing the world class standards that they use.  That they aren't allowed into the US is a result of politics and powerful drug company lobbies than anything else.

The answer to how are we gonna cope with all the baby boomers costs is in the same paragraph above.  We are gonna have to recognize that we must break the strangle-hold of the big American drug companies and their lobbies, to allow use of 'safely manufactured" oversees drugs.  The trend is developing now with using from Canada and other countries.  If the same drug can be gotten overseas for the same safety and at 1/4 the cost, I think market economics will dictate a switch in thinking.  All this is my personal opinion of course, and a discussion, not an argument.... tongue

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0

Posted 7/18/2008 11:03 AM (GMT -6)
You raise some interesting points, James, and each person must decide how to address this in their own situation.  I expect that we will see in the U.S. more low-priced generic drugs as some retail companies are now promoting.
Generic ED drugs for $3 for a 30-day supply? Maybe.
 
Along the same lines, there are increasing numbers of Americans going to other countries for surgeries (medical vacations) that cost a fraction of their cost here.   If I had had to face the $25,000 cost of my prostatectomy out-of-pocket, would I have considered this?  As the tag line to a famous Jack Benny joke has it,  "I'm thinking, I'm thinking"
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