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KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/19/2008 5:50 PM (GMT -6)   
Well Monday AM is it for me! I'll have the biopsy and then who knows what comes next???

Any prayer/positive thoughts sent my way are GREATLY appreciated. I have very high anxiety about this whole deal and this is just the start of it I'm afraid. I'll be under a general so I won't suffer during the procedure, but the aftermath is the unknown. I'll have 20 to 30 samples taken so hopefully if something is in early stages it will be discovered.

And then there is waiting for the results...

It may seem odd, but I just want to get the therapy started and finished. I don't even know if I have PCa, but I really just want this over with.
I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/23

Post Edited (KC9AOP) : 7/19/2008 11:45:49 PM (GMT-6)


hopemylove
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   Posted 7/19/2008 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   

I will keep you in my prayers.

Although it is hard at this point to relax and wait for test results, try to find something that will keep your mind and body active and distracted as much as you can.

God Bless,

Karen eyes


Karen--New York
Husbands Info:
Age of diagnosis--62
2/28/08--PSA 279   DRE--positive/rock hard
Flomax and Casadex started
Biopsy--3/7/08--187cc--Gleason 10--12 of 12 positive--Perineural and LV invasion identified
T4 bone met.--hydroureteronephrosis/right kidney
3/28/08--Lupron Inj. started
4/7/08--Zometa IV started
5/15/08--PSA 12
5/20/08--Tubes placed in kidneys (through back)
5/21/08--diagnosed Neuro Endocrine Prostate carcinoma
5/28-30/08--1st round Chemo
6/18-20/08--2nd round Chemo
7/2/08--blood clot--Coumadin started
7/10/08--Stop chemo--cancer not responding
 
 
 


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 7/19/2008 6:13 PM (GMT -6)   
And you will have them. Good luck. The procedure in uncomfertable, but not bad. The good news is that it's over fast. Stay Positive...

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Stage pT3b (Stage III)
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (May 9 '08): <0.1
I will continue HT until May '09. 
Years in Remission (3/23/07): 1
Visit my Journey at:
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STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


jetguy
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   Posted 7/19/2008 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   

Hang in there KC.  The reason you are anxious is because you know what is happening.  Believe it, or not, you will eventually prevail.  One way, or the other.  Please let us know the results.

Regards,

Bill


August of 2006, PSA up to 4.2 from 2.7 one year ago. 
October free and total PSA 12% free and 5.0 total.
A month, or so later, 4.7.
Late in the year decide on Image Guided IMRT.
Begin 43 treatments on January 23, 2007 and finish on March 23.
Four month post treatment PSA is 1.9.
Seven month PSA is 0.8.


rob2
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   Posted 7/19/2008 7:38 PM (GMT -6)   
i will say hang in there. the procedure for me was less than 20 minutes. the hard part was waiting on the results.
 
Age 48
occupation accountant
PSA increased from 2.6 to 3.5 in one year
biopsy march 2008 - cancer present gleason 7
decision - surgery (robotic)
surgery may 9, 2008 - houston, tx
pathology report -gleason 8
margins clear
4 week and 6 week PSA .04 (undetectible)
continence ok during day - 1 pad
night time different story
kegel's twice a day 20 reps


livinadream
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   Posted 7/19/2008 7:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Please stay as positive as possible and know that we will all be thinking of you monday. Let us know how it goes.

peace and love
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 7/19/2008 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   
You will have both my positive thoughts and prayers for Monday! Hang in there!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

Co-Moderator Prostate Cancer Forum


James C.
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   Posted 7/19/2008 8:32 PM (GMT -6)   
You will have them from me.  I'll try to remember you all day Monday.  Keep up hope and don't get too premature on the results.... devil
James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/19/2008 8:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you everybody!!

The support from you is wonderful. As the "time draws near" I'm much more anxious and scared. I know there is no sense in worrying as the results will be what they will be. I guess its "just like a man" to be in denial and scared about looming health issues.

I will try to stay upbeat and not scare myself any more!

I'll be sure to post the details of my experience. It may take a day or so if I'm really out of it. I don't suspect that I will have any severe recovery issues. Dr. Moran has done a post-test study and most people rate their discomfort at 2 or less out of 10. I can live with a 2 or even a 5 if I have to.
I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transpareneal Prostate Biopsy for 7/23

Post Edited (KC9AOP) : 7/19/2008 8:39:45 PM (GMT-6)


livinadream
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   Posted 7/19/2008 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   
You will not have much recovery from the biopsy but the waiting for the results does produce anxiety, I remember those days of waiting. Try as you may to go on with normal life, work, play, laugh, etc. When the news comes hopefully you will be able to celebrate, and if you need comfort or just someone to talk to I am betting anyone on this forum would gladly listen. If you ever feel the need please email me and we can chat.

peace and love
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/19/2008 11:46 PM (GMT -6)   
livinadream said...
You will not have much recovery from the biopsy but the waiting for the results does produce anxiety, I remember those days of waiting. Try as you may to go on with normal life, work, play, laugh, etc. When the news comes hopefully you will be able to celebrate, and if you need comfort or just someone to talk to I am betting anyone on this forum would gladly listen. If you ever feel the need please email me and we can chat.

peace and love
Dale

Dale,

Thanks SO MUCH for the offer for direct chat. I may just take you up on that once I scrape myself off of the ceiling and get online.
I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/23

Post Edited (KC9AOP) : 7/19/2008 11:51:58 PM (GMT-6)


41diagnosed
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   Posted 7/20/2008 10:24 AM (GMT -6)   
i wish i could give you my ignorance when i went for my biopsy. with a 2% chance of having cancer, i barely gave it a second thought. and i didn't find HW until after i got my diagnosis.

take comfort in knowing you are doing what you can and either way, you are on top of the situation. knowledge is power and gives you the best chance of survival if they find cancer. if not, it will be a day to celebrate.

keep us posted since now you are in all our thoughts.
 
42 yo. now
 
5/07 PSA 4.65 at routine physical
6/07 biopsy positive for cancer...Gleason 3+4...diagnosed at 41 y.o.
6/07-9/07 manic research and interviews with physicians across the country in search of the "right" decision.  I went to Mass General in Boston, Loma Linda, University of Chicago and Northwestern.
9/17/07 - Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy Surgery at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago by Dr. William Catalona.  Thankful the father of the PSA test was right here in Chicago.
 
Post op pathology was Gleason 3+4 with negative margins, no seminal vesicale involvement, no lymphatic or vascular invasion, bladder and urethral free and tumor volume was 5% of 27.3g.  
 
9/27/07 - Catheter removal...let the games begin...
 
12/07 - Threw out the pads.  I only had to use 1 pad per day for protection against minor drips. 
 
I started Trimix 8 weeks after surgery with success.
 
I hope someday I won't need injections, but I hope more that my PSA stays at 0 forever.
 
 
 


Tim G
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   Posted 7/20/2008 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
It is natural to feel anxious--even extremely so--with a procedure like this.  I, too, was very anxious, but my wife helped to put things in perspective for me.  The procedure itself was uncomfortable but not painful (The numbing agent ahead of time helped); the anticipation of the next trigger release was the worst part for me.  Keep us posted.  Take care and hang in there...Tim
Age 59  PSA quadrupled in 1 yr (0.6 to 2.5) 
DRE neg  1 of 12 biopsies pos (< 5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Organ confined pT2a  Gleason 5   
Cancer-free for 2 years  PSA's undetectable 


IdahoSurvivor
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   Posted 7/20/2008 9:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi KC,
 
The jitters are very understandable.  You are no wimp. yeah
 
I will certainly keep you in my thoughts and prayers for a quick, uneventful procedure and a speedy recovery from the biopsy symptoms.
 
The good news, is that it'll be over very quickly and you'll physically feel much better the next day.
 
Please check in with your thoughts and concerns afterwards, since you have most people here who have gone throught the same thing, either themselves or with a loved one.  We'll be glad to answer questions and try to provide some comfort.
 
Kind regards,
 
 

Barry ~ (a.k.a. "Idaho") - Prostate Cancer Forum Co-Moderator

 

Da Vinci Surgery July 31, 2007… 54 on surgery day
PSA 4.3  Gleason 3+3=6  T2a  Confined to Prostate

1st PSA  09/11/2007  <0.04 (undetectable)

2nd PSA 12/10/2007  <0.04

3rd PSA  03/17/2008  <0.04

4th PSA  06/17/2008  <0.04

My web site: http://pca-info.blogspot.com


norskie
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   Posted 7/21/2008 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
We will be thinking about you today and hoping all goes well and your results are negitive, but if not we are all here to help you through the next steps.

Norskie
norskie
Age 49, PSA 6.22 on 9-26-06
Biopsy 11-01-06, 2 of 13 cores 10% cancer, 2 other cores abnormal Up-dated 20% prostate cancerous
Gleason score 3+3=6 After Surgery Pathology report 4+3=7 a couple agressive Grade 5 cells found
Da Vinci surgery 01-09-07 UW Madison
Pathology Report- cancer 100 % capsual contained 1-18-07
1st & 2nd Post PSA Blood Test .1 and less - Undetectable
3nd Post PSA Blood Test 01-17-07 .3
March 27th PSA .4 Begin Salvage Radiation April, 14 2008
Incontenence-Pad free since end of May 07 4 1/2 months post surgery 
ED back to 95% prior to surgery - no medication required.


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/22/2008 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks to you ALL!!! I really appreciate your support, thoughts and prayers.

Well I made it through the biopsy. Dr. Moran took 42 samples. WOW!

I've never been a patient in a hospital before so this was new to me. I've seen people in the hospital but I was never hooked up to IV before and never had any kind of procedure. I guess I'm "lucky" that I have sleep APNEA. The oxygen mask did not make me freak out. I can imagine one might if they weren't used to their face being covered.

The Doctor was fantastic. He saw I was having high anxiety so they hit me right away with "a little something" so it made me feel less anxious, but not dopey. My wife was there and wished me well and off I went. All I can remember of the OR was getting on the operating table, the oxygen mask and a burning feeling in my hand where the IV was. Next thing I know I'm in recovery and a little sore. Since I was under a general, no local was used and I was not in severe pain at all. I'd rank it about a 3.

I peed a good amount of red urine (go figure) and they let me go home. I've been convalescing since then.

The doctor told my wife that a few samples had blood in them so that may indicate inflammation too. Now for the waiting... I've got other things going on right now so I'm distracted enough. I hope the results come in fast.

Almost forgot to mention the meds.  Cipro for the antibiotic and Methylpred for anti-inflamation.  Of course the Doctor's office was superb.  Followed up with me and will tack me for a while.


I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/21
7/21/08 - Had the biopsy.  Not so bad but sore on day 2. Back to work tomorrow

Post Edited (KC9AOP) : 7/22/2008 2:37:09 PM (GMT-6)


James C.
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   Posted 7/22/2008 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Glad to see you back posting again.  A first time trip to the hospital and a first time trip to the OR is always a little anxious time, I know.  YOu will heal quickly, and bounce back.  Try to relax while waiting for there results.  They will be what they will be, so not much use worrying about it.  If it is cancer, then you will have a great map of your disease and a much better understanding of what and how to proceed.  Hang in there....

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


cvc
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   Posted 7/22/2008 1:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Just how is this type of bip done ?? Is this the best type tp have IF you have to have one ??

Ziggy9
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   Posted 7/22/2008 2:22 PM (GMT -6)   
KC9AOP said...

Thanks to you ALL!!! I really appreciate your support, thoughts and prayers.

Well I made it through the biopsy. Dr. Moran took 42 samples. WOW!

I've never been a patient in a hospital before so this was new to me. I've seen people in the hospital but I was never hooked up to IV before and never had any kind of procedure. I guess I'm "lucky" that I have sleep APNEA. The oxygen mask did not make me freak out. I can imagine one might if they weren't used to their face being covered.

The Doctor was fantastic. He saw I was having high anxiety so they hit me right away with "a little something" so it made me feel less anxious, but not dopey. My wife was there and wished me well and off I went. All I can remember of the OR was getting on the operating table, the oxygen mask and a burning feeling in my hand where the IV was. Next thing I know I'm in recovery and a little sore. Since I was under a general, no local was used and I was not in severe pain at all. I'd rank it about a 3.

I peed a good amount of red urine (go figure) and they let me go home. I've been convalescing since then.

The doctor told my wife that a few samples had blood in them so that may indicate inflammation too. Now for the waiting... I've got other things going on right now so I'm distracted enough. I hope the results come in fast.
Almost forgot to mention the meds. Cipro for the antibiotic and Methylpred for anti-inflamation.



Your biopsy seems akin to my 2nd one that had 45 samples. The local newsman here who had it done had 90 sample taken. My experience was similar to yours, I was sore for a couple of weeks. These saturation biopsies show you how poor the standard biopsies are in actually locating the tumor. But the latter are really just designed to see if they can detect any malignancy to later remove/radiate..etc the entire gland. Mine was to see if I qualified for TFT(Targeted Focal treatment). What possible treatment is this being done for? Sorry if you have stated that before, I've been out of the loop for a couple of months here.
Diagnosed 10/08/07
Age: 58
3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3
3+3=6
Size: 34g
T-2-A
 
2/22/08
3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy
1 of 45 @2%
Psa:2.1
3+3=6
28g after taking Avodart
Catheter for 1 day
Good Candidate for TFT
(Targeted Focal Therapy)
Cryosurgery(Ice Balls)
Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08
TFT performed at University of Colorado
Medical Center at Denver Fitzsimmons Campus
Catheter for 4 days
Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward
life returns as normal
 
Quarterly PSA tests to start and
another biopsy next April
 
 

Post Edited (realziggy) : 7/22/2008 2:43:05 PM (GMT-6)


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/22/2008 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
cvc said...
Just how is this type of bip done ?? Is this the best type tp have IF you have to have one ??
My doctor, Dr. Brian J. Moran has a published paper that goes into great detail at www.prostateimplant.com/pdf/news/2.pdf
 
Briefly, you are under general anesthesia for this option and the prostate is divided into 8 quadrants (4 up and 4 down) for needle samples through the perineum instead of through the rectum.  The doctor said the prostate pretty well rests on the perineum so they get "better angles" for getting exact location samples.  In addition, since the procedure does not pierce your rectum, there is much less chance for infection.
 
On the average .44 samples per gram of volume are taken.  My prostate is 40 grams and he needed to take 42 samples to get the proper desity of tissues.  This gives the pathologist a lot more to look at and since it is mapped so closely a better location of the cancer can be determined.
 
This procedure is sometimes used after the usual 12 sample biopsy does not find the cancer and PSA keeps rising.  Since my father had PCa, the doctor recommended that I do the more intensive test.  As always get good information and follow your doctor's advice, but if you ask me this is much more comprehensive
 


I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/21
7/21/08 - Had the biopsy.  Not so bad but sore on day 2. Back to work tomorrow

Post Edited (KC9AOP) : 7/22/2008 3:00:29 PM (GMT-6)


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/22/2008 2:54 PM (GMT -6)   
realziggy said...
Your biopsy seems akin to my 2nd one that had 45 samples. The local newsman here who had it done had 90 sample taken. My experience was similar to yours, I was sore for a couple of weeks. These saturation biopsies show you how poor the standard biopsies are in actually locating the tumor. But the latter are really just designed to see if they can detect any malignancy to later remove/radiate..etc the entire gland. Mine was to see if I qualified for TFT(Targeted Focal treatment). What possible treatment is this being done for? Sorry if you have stated that before, I've been out of the loop for a couple of months here.

If we find anything, brachytherapy seems the way to go.  Worked great for Dad and he had very advanced cancer.  I still have to get a diagnosis before I can decide... the wait goes on.

I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/21
7/21/08 - Had the biopsy.  Not so bad but sore on day 2. Back to work tomorrow


Ziggy9
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   Posted 7/22/2008 3:17 PM (GMT -6)   
KC9AOP said...
realziggy said...




Your biopsy seems akin to my 2nd one that had 45 samples. The local newsman here who had it done had 90 sample taken. My experience was similar to yours, I was sore for a couple of weeks. These saturation biopsies show you how poor the standard biopsies are in actually locating the tumor. But the latter are really just designed to see if they can detect any malignancy to later remove/radiate..etc the entire gland. Mine was to see if I qualified for TFT(Targeted Focal treatment). What possible treatment is this being done for? Sorry if you have stated that before, I've been out of the loop for a couple of months here.





If we find anything, brachytherapy seems the way to go. Worked great for Dad and he had very advanced cancer. I still have to get a diagnosis before I can decide... the wait goes on.


Let's see what your biopsy indicates. You may possibly want to consider what I had done, or just look into it if you qualify by your multi-needle biopsy. It's like a lumpectomy. Or in other words I still have my prostate with the tumor destroyed by freezing. It's an ongoing clinical research study. But only available at this time in I believe three cities. I'll be reposting all the links to it in the near future. I'm kind of waiting for my first quarterly PSA test after TFT which I now have scheduled for 7/30. Stay tuned, one can never have enough treatment options..
Diagnosed 10/08/07
Age: 58
3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3
3+3=6
Size: 34g
T-2-A
 
2/22/08
3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy
1 of 45 @2%
Psa:2.1
3+3=6
28g after taking Avodart
Catheter for 1 day
Good Candidate for TFT
(Targeted Focal Therapy)
Cryosurgery(Ice Balls)
Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08
TFT performed at University of Colorado
Medical Center at Denver Fitzsimmons Campus
Catheter for 4 days
Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward
life returns as normal
 
Quarterly PSA tests to start and
another biopsy next April
 
 


KC9AOP
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   Posted 7/22/2008 3:32 PM (GMT -6)   
realziggy said...
KC9AOP said...
realziggy said...




Your biopsy seems akin to my 2nd one that had 45 samples. The local newsman here who had it done had 90 sample taken. My experience was similar to yours, I was sore for a couple of weeks. These saturation biopsies show you how poor the standard biopsies are in actually locating the tumor. But the latter are really just designed to see if they can detect any malignancy to later remove/radiate..etc the entire gland. Mine was to see if I qualified for TFT(Targeted Focal treatment). What possible treatment is this being done for? Sorry if you have stated that before, I've been out of the loop for a couple of months here.





If we find anything, brachytherapy seems the way to go. Worked great for Dad and he had very advanced cancer. I still have to get a diagnosis before I can decide... the wait goes on.


Let's see what your biopsy indicates. You may possibly want to consider what I had done, or just look into it if you qualify by your multi-needle biopsy. It's like a lumpectomy. Or in other words I still have my prostate with the tumor destroyed by freezing. It's an ongoing clinical research study. But only available at this time in I believe three cities. I'll be reposting all the links to it in the near future. I'm kind of waiting for my first quarterly PSA test after TFT which I now have scheduled for 7/30. Stay tuned, one can never have enough treatment options..


I agree on never too many options.  I'm interested in the therapy you underwent.  Post the links soon so I can read about it before I have to decide.  I'm in Chicagoland so I hope that's one of the 3 cities.
 
I am age 47 - Father, Paternal Uncle and Maternal Grandfather had/have Prostate Cancer.
Father 74 years old, PSA = 10.6 Gleason = 5 + 5 = 10 (very aggressive) and high involvement in all cores. Seed therapy is the only option. Father died cancer free.
6/4/08 - At physical DRE normal, PSA test returns 4.4
6/20/08 - First Urologist visit. DRE and ultrasound finds nothing conclusive. Doctor says biopsy is the only safe way to go. Prostate volume is 40 grams.
7/11/08 - PSA test returns 4.1. Scheduled the Stereotactic Transperineal Prostate Biopsy for 7/21
7/21/08 - Had the biopsy.  Not so bad but sore on day 2. Back to work tomorrow


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   Posted 7/22/2008 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
KC9AOP said...
realziggy said...
KC9AOP said...
realziggy said...




Your biopsy seems akin to my 2nd one that had 45 samples. The local newsman here who had it done had 90 sample taken. My experience was similar to yours, I was sore for a couple of weeks. These saturation biopsies show you how poor the standard biopsies are in actually locating the tumor. But the latter are really just designed to see if they can detect any malignancy to later remove/radiate..etc the entire gland. Mine was to see if I qualified for TFT(Targeted Focal treatment). What possible treatment is this being done for? Sorry if you have stated that before, I've been out of the loop for a couple of months here.





If we find anything, brachytherapy seems the way to go. Worked great for Dad and he had very advanced cancer. I still have to get a diagnosis before I can decide... the wait goes on.


Let's see what your biopsy indicates. You may possibly want to consider what I had done, or just look into it if you qualify by your multi-needle biopsy. It's like a lumpectomy. Or in other words I still have my prostate with the tumor destroyed by freezing. It's an ongoing clinical research study. But only available at this time in I believe three cities. I'll be reposting all the links to it in the near future. I'm kind of waiting for my first quarterly PSA test after TFT which I now have scheduled for 7/30. Stay tuned, one can never have enough treatment options..


I agree on never too many options.  I'm interested in the therapy you underwent.  Post the links soon so I can read about it before I have to decide.  I'm in Chicagoland so I hope that's one of the 3 cities.
 

Unfortunatley it's not. The research is going on here in Denver. And one guy said it was available in Florida and I believe maybe around New Orleans. Here's just a quick link to my Urologist site about it.
 
 
 He's the director of Research urologic Oncolgy at teh University of Colorado Hospital. There's also a 5 part local news broadcast of a local newsman who also had this procedure. That's how I learned of it and I went to the same surgeon. Those are now harder to find links for. Although scroll down to this link on the home page of Dr Barqawi's site
 

To learn more about research efforts click here.

 

 
and you'll be directed to the tv station site then scroll half way down and you'll seek the video links to the PCa special you can watch if you get interested. Parts 2-4 are the most relavent. You'll need to go back to the start of the watched vidoe to get the link to the next. all re about 5 - 7 minutes long/ They use to be easier to access when broadcast last December.  



Diagnosed 10/08/07
Age: 58
3 of 12 @5%
Psa: 2.3
3+3=6
Size: 34g
T-2-A
 
2/22/08
3D Mapping Saturation Biopsy
1 of 45 @2%
Psa:2.1
3+3=6
28g after taking Avodart
Catheter for 1 day
Good Candidate for TFT
(Targeted Focal Therapy)
Cryosurgery(Ice Balls)
Clinical Research Study
 
4/22/08
TFT performed at University of Colorado
Medical Center at Denver Fitzsimmons Campus
Catheter for 4 days
Slight soreness for 2 weeks but afterward
life returns as normal
 
Quarterly PSA tests to start and
another biopsy next April
 
 

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