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Date Joined Sep 2007
Total Posts : 219
   Posted 7/21/2008 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello to all. I'm back fro the dark valley that round number 6 of chemo had me in. The sun feels great. Round 6 was by far the worse as side effects go. It took over 2 weeks to get over them this time. But, what is the old saying.........."no pain,no gain". We had the pain and now we have the gain. My PSA dropped, yes dropped, from 13.65 down to 10.46. Praise be to God. He is blessing me and will continue to pour His blessings on me. If you feel led to prayer, you can pray for me. I'll even take well wishes or good thoughts.
The side effects seem to increase with every round. So after a short discussion with my friend and doctor, we are taking the next 6 weeks off from chemo and prednisone. We need to get stronger before we head into the next phase of treatment. The next phase will either be more chemo or the clinical trial. We will make that choice at the end of August. Dr. Windsor gave me a Rx to go to the beach and have some fun. Fun it shall be.
On Saturday I watched to movie "Facing the giants". Go rent this movie. I had seen parts of it before but never the whole thing. What a great message for everyone about life. We all are facing our giants here at HW. We can beat them. We will beat them. I have faced my giant, I know him, and I will beat him. I had made a big mistake in my battle. I have been praying to get more time. What a mistake. Now I pray for healing. If you are a farmer and you need rain, don't just ask for rain. Go out and prepare your fields, it's going to rain. I am preparing my fields and getting ready for a huge harvest.
Love and peace to all. A huge War Eagle to all.
Age: 55 ( still alive at 55)
PSA 43 7/2005
Biopsy 12/14 Gleason 7 & 9
Divinci 9/2005 - spread to bladder
HT - 10/2005 (Eligard every 6 months)
RT - 10/2005 (38 treatments)
PSA 0.12 to 1.9 2/2007
Bone Scan and CT 4/2007 Bone mets
Casodex 4/2007
Zometa infusions 4/2007
PSA 4.8 8/2007
PSA 6.34 12/2007
Radiation (15 treatments) started on bone mets 12/2007
PSA 6.72 1/2008
PSA 8.23 2/2008 - Starting prednisone for 30 days
PSA 14 2-29-2008 - start chemo on 3/12
PSA 12.82 3/1/2008 round one chemo
PSA 12.24 4/2/2008 round two chemo 
PSA 10.86 4/24/2008 round three chemo
PSA 10.4 5/15/2008 round four chemo - increase dosage next month
PSA 12.98 6/5/2008 round five chemo
PSA 13.63 6/26/2008 round six chemo
"I will persist without exception - I will find a way where there is no way"

James C.
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   Posted 7/21/2008 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Walt, glad to see you surface again, and with good news.  Know that you have my thoughts and prayers with you daily.  Continue to strengthen and heal..

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0

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Date Joined Jan 2007
Total Posts : 376
   Posted 7/21/2008 9:30 AM (GMT -6)   

My thoughts are with you and keep up the great attitude, you are so right you and we can be healed and live long and prosperous lives, never give up the hope and I am glad to see you are feeling better from your last treatments.

Age 49, PSA 6.22 on 9-26-06
Biopsy 11-01-06, 2 of 13 cores 10% cancer, 2 other cores abnormal Up-dated 20% prostate cancerous
Gleason score 3+3=6 After Surgery Pathology report 4+3=7 a couple agressive Grade 5 cells found
Da Vinci surgery 01-09-07 UW Madison
Pathology Report- cancer 100 % capsual contained 1-18-07
1st & 2nd Post PSA Blood Test .1 and less - Undetectable
3nd Post PSA Blood Test 01-17-07 .3
March 27th PSA .4 Begin Salvage Radiation April, 14 2008
Incontenence-Pad free since end of May 07 4 1/2 months post surgery 
ED back to 95% prior to surgery - no medication required.

Doting Daughter
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Date Joined Aug 2007
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   Posted 7/21/2008 9:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm thrilled to hear that your PSA dropped and that you are out of the "valley". Our prayers are being heard! Enjoy your vacation and you will be in our thoughts and prayers for healing and strength! Watch out round 7. (Whatever that may be)
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

Co-Moderator Prostate Cancer Forum

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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 1464
   Posted 7/21/2008 9:58 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Walt,

Its great to hear from you and that things are looking up in the PSA dept. (or down as the case may be)

"No pain, no gain" does seem to be the watchword in cancer recovery...

Age 74. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 7/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 1/28/09
Lung cancer dxed on 5/16/08.  Surgery on 6/25/08  T1N1M0 - Stage IIA
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."

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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 1219
   Posted 7/21/2008 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   

Time for fun & R&R...that sound's like the perfect prescription to me! So glad to hear the strength in your post - you know we're right with you.

A big War Eagle back at you,
Husband Diagnosed 11/17/05 Age: 63 PSA: 7.96 No Symptoms
2/09/06: LRP - Post Pathology - Gleason 4+3 Stage T2b NO MX
3 mo. PSA: 11.8 Stage T3a
6 mo. PSA: 18.8 Stage IV Systemic w/ distant lymph node involvement
Start HT - Lupron 3 mo. shots
12/06/06: PSA 0.8
03/07/07: PSA 0.3
PSA - Undetectable since 6/07/07

Link to journey:

Roger G
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 150
   Posted 7/21/2008 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   

Way to go Walt!!  Go enjoy the beach, and some recovery time.  I really hope those PSA numbers keep dropping.

Walt, you are an inspiration for the rest of us.


Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.

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Date Joined Feb 2007
Total Posts : 400
   Posted 7/21/2008 3:50 PM (GMT -6)   


Welcome back and congrats on the lower PSA - a vacation is definitely in order.  Your outlook is to be admired and I wish you well.


Diagnosed Feb 2001  (Age 65)  Currently 72
PSA 4.8      Gleason 3+3=6      Stage   T2b
Completed Proton Therapy @ Loma Linda - 2001 - No side effects.  My journey is at:
7yr PSA - 0.2
Our responsibility now is to educate men about Pca, PSA and the importance of early detection. 

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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 637
   Posted 7/21/2008 5:00 PM (GMT -6)   
You are the MAN!! Congratulations, Walt...!! Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 age 67 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
seed implant and conformal radiation Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/07
In line for AUS possibly in Sept 08

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Date Joined Sep 2006
Total Posts : 741
   Posted 7/21/2008 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   

Dear Walt,

Here come all the well wishes and good thoughts that I can muster.  And at the speed of light, you have 'em!   Seriously, my best to you and I hope the trend continues.



August of 2006, PSA up to 4.2 from 2.7 one year ago. 
October free and total PSA 12% free and 5.0 total.
A month, or so later, 4.7.
Late in the year decide on Image Guided IMRT.
Begin 43 treatments on January 23, 2007 and finish on March 23.
Four month post treatment PSA is 1.9.
Seven month PSA is 0.8.

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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1382
   Posted 7/21/2008 7:42 PM (GMT -6)   

Walt it is great to hear from you. I think about you everyday. Heck even my wife ask me daily if I have heard from war eagle. I have a famous phrase I use in sales training and I think it aptly applies here "the only thing standing between a person and what they want in life is the courage to try and the faith to believe it possible." You my friend are a picture of faith and inspiration to many, especially to me. Love you my friend.


peace and love


My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores

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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 338
   Posted 7/21/2008 9:03 PM (GMT -6)   
My brother Walt,
Without valleys we have no Mountains. 
Your faith and the way you handle this adversity gives me strength.
Enjoy your mountains this next few weeks
Love Ya
Retired USAF Richard & Debbie on The Shores of Toledo Bend Lake Louisiana
Biospy 1/10/08 Gleason 10, Stage T1C  8 of 12 samples positive all Less Than 5% 
Jan & Feb & Mar all tests clear
MD Anderson = No surgery and No Proton only Hormone and IMRT
Contacted with Loma Linda and UFPTI in FL
Started Treatment at the U of Florida Proton Therapy Institute in April 2008
May 2, 2008 LUPRON & Casodex
IMRT to started  5/27/2008 Will get 42 treatments 25 IMRT and then 17 Proton
Turn Stumbling Blocks into Steping Stones and Keep Smiling
Our Journey is on WWW.GLEASON10.COM

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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 655
   Posted 7/23/2008 8:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Great to hear from you Walt .  Continue to climb that mountain and have a great time at the beach.  David

Age 55
Diagnosed Dec 2007 during annual routine physical
PSA doubled from previous year from 1.5 to 3.2
12 biopsies - 2 positive with 2 marginal
Gleason 3 + 3 = 6
RRP 4 Feb 08
Both nerves spared
Good pathology - no margins - all encapsulated - Gleason 4 + 3 = 7
Catheter out Feb 13 - wore pad for couple of days - pad free Feb 16
Great wife and family who take very good care of me

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Date Joined Apr 2007
Total Posts : 823
   Posted 7/24/2008 6:52 PM (GMT -6)   
dear Walt,

Keep up the good fight and take some time for yourself. Just got back from a beach trip this evening myself. Thinking of you and others here everyday.

age at dx 54 now 56
psa at dx 4.3
got the bad news 1/29/07
open surgery Duke Medical Center 5-29-07
never more than 2 pads
Tossed the pads this spring
ED still a problem
first year PSA less than zero

M. Kat
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Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 715
   Posted 7/24/2008 7:25 PM (GMT -6)   
great news Walt! it's good to hear from you again. you are in our prayers....and thoughts. take this time to get strong and enjoy life. God bless! kat
Husband Jeff 56 years old diagnosed July 27, 2006
PSA 6.5, 2 positive areas in biopsy, Gleason 3+3=6
Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy August 30, 2006
pathology report - all clear - cancer gone
1st post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 2nd post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 3rd PSA <0.1
no more pads Oct 12, 2006
first "real" erection with use of pump 12/16/06
3/07 - occasional dribbles and erections with Cialis and pump
8/07 - 1 yr PSA <0.1
9/1/07 - achieved erection with Viagra - no pump!
3/08 - 18 mo PSA <0.1
switched to Levitra - works much better than Viagra & Cialis - fewer side affects

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