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James C.
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   Posted 7/23/2008 12:22 PM (GMT -6)   
I got my 9 month PSA result this afternoon.- .04 or undetectable, tongue depending on how you want to consider it.  This is my 3rd one and I am feeling that I may be getting a real trend going here.  tongue
 
I also start with 6 month appointments and testing now.  The continence continues- completely dry, the ed continues to be totally zero, as far a natural occurrances go, so it's more pumping, injections and drugs.  Oh, well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.  Doc gave me some 20mg Cialis to try, that's the only one I hadn't tried yet.  He said he expected his patients to regain function in a year, I told him I thought he was overly-optimistic, that I had set a goal of 18 months to 2 years.  We'll see.............. eyes
James C.
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Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/4/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0


Gene214
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   Posted 7/23/2008 12:35 PM (GMT -6)   

Congrats James at the low number.  I too received my new psa reading and it is .05, or non detectable.  It is still in the range of non-detectable isn't it?  I have seen those numbers somewhere but cannot remember them.  If you have what is considered non-detectable, would you, or anyone else, post them?  Thanks

Gene214


PC diagnosed 12-06 @ age 63
Radical open removal 2-14-07, Gleason 3+3=6
Removal of stricture 6-07, incontinence continues
Scheduled for AUS & IPP 05-08
Surgeon cancelled one day pre-surgery, due to cardiac concerns
Nuclear stress 5/13/08
3 stents 5/27
AUS, IPP 07-16-08
 


Roger G
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   Posted 7/23/2008 12:41 PM (GMT -6)   
James,
WAY TO GO!!!!

I hope to join you at the 9 month mark tomorrow. I never though being a zero would be so cool. 

I'm going to ask for either of Cialis or Levitra, as Vigra is doing nothing for me. Last week I tried a 200mg dosage to see if something would spring to life. NADA. I did however finally see the blue haze vision side effect... Kind of surreal.

If I'm brave enough I ask about injections. 
 
I'm not expecting anything until the two year mark as well.

Roger


Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
 

Post Edited (Roger G) : 7/23/2008 1:09:35 PM (GMT-6)


James C.
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   Posted 7/23/2008 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Gene214, anything under .1 is considered cancer-free, as far as statistical standards go.  My doc wants to tell me each time it is undetectable, and I make him give me a number, which is .04 reported from the lab.  There's 3 generations of tests now, each more sensitive than the earlier, but all of them should be considered undetectable if under .1 by most Urologists.   My lab uses the 2nd. gen test, which reports in the hundreds range, hence my .04.  If it were 1st generation, then it would be reported as less than .1, or <.1 or undetectable, as the 1st gen doesn't read below .1 

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/31/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0, 9 mts.-0.


James C.
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   Posted 7/23/2008 1:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Roger, the injections aren't bad, and really do provide an accelerated recovery, according to several sources I have read.  Once you do the first couple yourself, and see the results, and how it gives you a boost both mentally and physically, then it's really easy to do.  There's lots of info here from us guys who do inject, so search around, if you haven't kept up with the discussions, and see if you could make a mental adjustment to do it.... tongue
James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/31/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0, 9 mts.-0.


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 7/23/2008 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Congrats!! Such wonderful news!!! Cheers to a lifetime of undetectables!!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

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biker90
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   Posted 7/23/2008 2:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey James,

Congrats on the undetectable PSA and the continued progress with ED. Keep up the good work...

Jim
Age 74. Diagnosed 11/03/06. PSA 7.05. Stage T2C Gleason 3+3.
RRP 12/7/06. Nerves and nodes okay.
Catheter out on 12/13/06.  Dry on 12/14/06.
Pathological stage: T2C N0 MX. Gleason 3+4.
50 mg Viagra + 1000 mg L-Arginine + .03 cc Trimix = Excellent Results
PSAs from  1/3/07 - 7/17/08 0.00. 
Next PSA test on 1/28/09
Lung cancer dxed on 5/16/08.  Surgery on 6/25/08  T1N1M0 - Stage IIA
"Patience is essential, attitude is everything."


myman
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   Posted 7/23/2008 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes!!! That's great news, James! May you have many more!

Susan

StrictlyInc
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   Posted 7/23/2008 2:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Congratulations, James!

Roger, I definitely think injections have helped my recovery along... highly recommended!
____________________

Prostate cancer diagnosed: May 15, 2006 (age 40)
Gleason score: pre-surgery 3+3=6; post-surgery 3+4=7
daVinci radical prostatectomy: July 25, 2006
size of tumor: approx 1.1 inches; negative margins from surgery

- number of pads/day at 3 months after surgery: 3 to 5
- number of pads/day at 4 months after surgery: 1 to 2
- number of pads/day at 6-18 months after surgery: 0 to 1

- 1st post-surgery PSA: 0 (Nov 2006); 2nd post-surgery PSA: 0 (Feb 2007); - 3rd post-surgery PSA: 0 (May 2007);
4th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2007); 5th post-surgery PSA: 0 (Dec 2007); 6th post-surgery PSA: 0 (June 2008)

The search for timber: took Viagra/Cialis approx. every other day, ErecAid once a day, injections. Peyronie's diagnosed 7/5/07. Now on daily Cialis, L-arginine and pentoxyfylline. Peyronies has stabilized and significantly reversed.

- PGE1 batting average: .364 (4 for 11)
- Bimix #3 batting average: .722 (13 for 18) Bimix #1 batting average (18 for 19) = .947
- Trimix batting average: .500 (1 for 2) Grand total 36 for 50 = .720

"Lost in the valley without my horses, no one can tell me what my remorse is..."


Magaboo
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   Posted 7/23/2008 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi James,
Congratulations on your latest PSA test result. May the string continue forever.
Hope your future will be full of zeros.
All the best to you.
 
Magaboo

Born Sept., 1936
PSA 7.9
Stage T1C
-ve DRE
Gleason's Score 3+4=7
2 of 8 positive
open RP 28 Nov 06
Post op staging T3a
Gleasons still 3+4=7
Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06
Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05


BillyMac
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   Posted 7/23/2008 6:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Really great news and congratulations. I look forward to seeing many more 0's in your future.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.1 undetectable


divo
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   Posted 7/23/2008 7:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Very very excellent news for you!! Also glad to hear that under .1 is undetectable....Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 age 67 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
seed implant and conformal radiation Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/07
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8. Dr. Sandhu


livinadream
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   Posted 7/23/2008 7:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Way to go James, hearing the good news is what makes this forum so special. Tomorrow I plan to join the ranks of the zero's.

peace and love
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


41diagnosed
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   Posted 7/24/2008 7:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Great news. Congrats!
 
42 yo. now
 
5/07 PSA 4.65 at routine physical
6/07 biopsy positive for cancer...Gleason 3+4...diagnosed at 41 y.o.
6/07-9/07 manic research and interviews with physicians across the country in search of the "right" decision.  I went to Mass General in Boston, Loma Linda, University of Chicago and Northwestern.
9/17/07 - Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy Surgery at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago by Dr. William Catalona.  Thankful the father of the PSA test was right here in Chicago.
 
Post op pathology was Gleason 3+4 with negative margins, no seminal vesicale involvement, no lymphatic or vascular invasion, bladder and urethral free and tumor volume was 5% of 27.3g.  
 
9/27/07 - Catheter removal...let the games begin...
 
12/07 - Threw out the pads.  I only had to use 1 pad per day for protection against minor drips. 
 
I started Trimix 8 weeks after surgery with success.
 
I hope someday I won't need injections, but I hope more that my PSA stays at 0 forever.
 
 
 


rob2
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   Posted 7/24/2008 6:30 PM (GMT -6)   
great news. mine was a .04 as well. i go for my 3 month check up next friday. i am already anxious. i have read about .04 vs. .03 vs .02 but i will take a .04. doctor says it is great news so i am saying it is great news.
 
Age 48
occupation accountant
PSA increased from 2.6 to 3.5 in one year
biopsy march 2008 - cancer present gleason 7
decision - surgery (robotic)
surgery may 9, 2008 - houston, tx
pathology report -gleason 8
margins clear
4 week and 6 week PSA .04 (undetectible)
continence ok during day - 1 pad
night time different story
kegel's twice a day 20 reps


M. Kat
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   Posted 7/24/2008 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
YEAH! great news James! I wish you a complete recovery on the ED issue.....time does heal in this case.... God bless, kat
Husband Jeff 56 years old diagnosed July 27, 2006
PSA 6.5, 2 positive areas in biopsy, Gleason 3+3=6
Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy August 30, 2006
pathology report - all clear - cancer gone
1st post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 2nd post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 3rd PSA <0.1
no more pads Oct 12, 2006
first "real" erection with use of pump 12/16/06
3/07 - occasional dribbles and erections with Cialis and pump
8/07 - 1 yr PSA <0.1
9/1/07 - achieved erection with Viagra - no pump!
3/08 - 18 mo PSA <0.1
switched to Levitra - works much better than Viagra & Cialis - fewer side affects


Roger G
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   Posted 7/25/2008 7:43 AM (GMT -6)   
James,

I happy to report than I'm with you at the 9 month mark. ZEROS!! See you in 3 months.

I'm going to try Cialis for 3 months, and then switch to injection if nothing happends.
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
              Both nerve bundles spared
              Pathology Report: Tumor confined w/in prostate
              T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
              Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was comming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Started Viagra, no response yet.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: next to no response.  Changed the Viagra prescription.
07/2008: 4nd PSA <.003 :)
              ED: Still NADA.  Changing to Cialis.
 


James C.
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   Posted 7/25/2008 8:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Zeros are great, Roger.  Glad to see yours as such.  If I didn't miss my counting, that's 5 men this week reporting zero's.. 

James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum

Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
10/15/07 ED- begin 50mg Viagra and Vacurect pump nightly, Fully continent
1/14/08 Caverject started/stopped, aching. 2/24/08 .5ml Bimix started-success
7/31/08 ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's:  3 mts-0, 6 mts.-0, 9 mts.-0.


VaFan
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   Posted 7/27/2008 4:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Just wanted to put in my YAY!!!! for your zeros!!
Age 51 Kent Cindy 49
January 08 PSA 5.2 round of antibiotics went to 4.3
February 08 another round of antibiotics went to 4.2
March 17,08 had biopsy, 2 days later told cancer was on
one entire side of prostate.
Gleason 3+3
Doctor thinks its best to get the whole prostate with Perineal  Prostatectomy.
Surgery scheduled for this Thursday April 10th. Only took 1 1/2 hours. In recovery 1 hour.  Both nerves were spared.
Home 4-11. Cath out 4-22. Incision looks completly healed on the outside by 4-25.  Incontinence "a thing of the past" as of 5-28
lst PSA 0.04 June 3. YAY!!!
July 08 (3mths post op) Cialis 10 mg every other day. Erections starting to return. Movement during the day on its own(its alive!).


Tim G
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   Posted 7/27/2008 11:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for sharing this good news with us!  Keep up the low scores!
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