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   Posted 8/6/2008 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
It has been six days since my Davinci RP, I feel stronger each day. I am following my post op instructions to the letter, so I can resume my regular activities. The biggest problem is the bag, which to my surprise is not that big of a problem. I have not seen any blood discharge since Sunday, is it possible that the bag can come off in a week? My Doc. appointment is tomorrow PM. 7 days after surgery. 
I am not planning to do any heavy lifting for sometime but how soon can I get back golfing? Is there a chart that shows a range that when regular activity is typically resumed?

Aged 55 when diagnosed
Biopsy 5/08 2 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 3+3=6 Stage T1c
Da Vinci RP July 31, 2008


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 8/6/2008 8:23 AM (GMT -6)   
Ask your doc, but generally it's four weeks or so after bag removal = Normal Activities.

Age 53   - 5'11'   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 07 & Jan 08 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy

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   Posted 8/6/2008 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
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   Posted 8/6/2008 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I had Divinci and my bag was removed on day 8.

Whether it is or not, the time will pass fast. Sounds like you are doing just great.

RBAge 61
Original data - pre-operation
PSA: 5.1
T1C clinical diagnosis, Needle biopsy - 10 cores, Gleason 7 = 3+4 in 1 core (40%), 7 cores Gleason 6 = 3+3 ranging from 5% to 12%
All scans negative
Lupron administered 4/9/2008 for 4 months (with idea I would undergo external beam radiation followed by seed implants - then I changed my mind).
Robotic DiVinci surgery - Dr. Fagin (Austin) May 19th
Post operative - pathology
pT2c NX MX
Gleason 3+4
Margins - negative
Extraprostatic extension - negative
seminal vesicle invasion - uninvolved
1st Post PSA .04

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   Posted 8/6/2008 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
My bag also came off on day 8, never had any blood in the urine, and was dry from day one the bag came off. You seem right on time and like your recovery is going along very well. Just take your time and let your body heal!
PSA 10 June 2007
Biopsy July 2, 15 of 16 samples positive
prostate weighed 40 grams
Di Venci 10/09/07, four hours on table, 3 in recovery
Total time in Hospital: 29 hours
Record for Dr. Lance, 70% of prostate had cancer, but NO spread, clean margins,Clean nodes,
First PSA at 5 weeks, UNDETECTABLE!
Catheter out at seven days, dry from hour one!
Second PSA 19 weeks post op, UNDETECTABLE 2/11/2008
Third PSA 5/12/08, six months post op, UNDETECTABLE
The Lord has truly Blessed me.

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   Posted 8/6/2008 12:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Great news that you are doing so well! My father felt really good after the surgery and did too much. He was trimming my rose bushes his second day home. My mom also caught him blowing leaves after a short time, which he was not supposed to be doing any lifting. He ended getting really sore and forced himself to take the required recovery time to heal. Best wishes for a speedy recovery and quick return to the golf course.
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

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   Posted 8/6/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   


   ....from what I've heard here and from others in our club, whom I golf with some...4-5weeks. believe me, I'm counting too! 

  And welcome to you and take it easy..

   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA had spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"
       DaVinci completed 7.29.08, along with hernia repair..
       3hrs in surgery, 2 in recovery...trouble starting the airway pre-
        Sent home 30hrs,  JP drain in place 7days, catheter remains..
       Path report "cancer fully contained"....more details when I
       recieve copy on first post-op Drs' visit  8.8.08....
        "just tryin' to reason with hurricane season"....

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   Posted 8/6/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   

I'm 13 weeks post op. I was told it does not matter what color comes out, as long as it comes out you are OK. My catheter came out on day 8. Watch out for bladder spasms, ask your doctor about them.

We had a discussion about exercise and hernias a few weeks ago on this board. Just remember that golf can put a lot of torque on your abdominal (sp!) area. If it were ME, I'd wait a full six weeks before really hitting the links hard. Chipping and putting may not be too bad, but I'd be careful before I really cranked the driver. Of course. we all heal at different rates. You just don't want to jump in a week too soon and have it cost you a couple of months of hernial recovery.

Just my opinion,
Age: 52
March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007:   PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5. PSA again in Feb '08: 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were cancerous and the 6th did not look good.
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.
Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Negative margins. Lymph nodes and associated glands all appear to be cancer free.

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   Posted 8/6/2008 1:49 PM (GMT -6)   

It sounds like you are going great and I would say it's possible you could have the catheter out at your next appointment. Just don't do too much too soon and you will be there real soon. I was told to lay pretty low on doing much lifting and such for 6 weeks and he turned me loose to do what ever. Oh yes and as kcragman mentioned look out for bladder spasms, not many get them but if you do like I did it's something I don't want to experience again.
Good luck and continued great success in your recovery!

Current age 50, Age at Dx- PSA 6.22 on 9-26-06
Biopsy 11-01-06, 2 of 13 cores 10% cancer, 2 other cores abnormal Up-dated 20% prostate cancerous
Gleason score 3+3=6 After Surgery Pathology report 4+3=7 a couple agressive Grade 5 cells found
Da Vinci surgery 01-09-07 UW Madison
Pathology Report- cancer 100 % capsual contained 1-18-07
1st & 2nd Post PSA Blood Test .1 and less - Undetectable
3nd Post PSA Blood Test 01-17-07 .3
March 27th PSA .422 Begin Salvage Radiation April, 14 2008
Radiation Complete June 4, 2008 36 treatments
August 5, 2008 PSA .09 or < .1 again
Incontenence-Pad free since end of May 07 4 1/2 months post surgery 
ED back to 95% prior to surgery - no medication required.

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   Posted 8/6/2008 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
JEKNY, it won't be long before your finished with the bag. The following incontinence can be a real pain but it usually gradually improves over the following weeks. If I remember rightly, I lost the bag 6 or 7 days after the op. Keep going with the Kegel exercises, they do help a quicker recovery. As for golf, I had the Da Vinci and started lightly chipping a few golf balls about 3 weeks later. Gradually increased this depending on how I felt and reacted. Of course you have a squirt with each shot but the pads are good for this. Played my first full game (albeit somewhat tentatively) after 5-1/2 weeks. Just remember, Confucius say "Squeeze before you sneeze" ..................... you'll understand the meaning over the next few weeks. tongue
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07----4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable
PSA August 08 <.001 undetectable

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle I no longer despair for the human race.

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   Posted 8/6/2008 10:57 PM (GMT -6)   
REMEMBER...the only thing "Less Invasive" about robotic is how they get inside. You still had MAJOR surgery. No matter how good you feel you should hold off for 6 weeks IMO. On the bright side. I went out my first time 3/4 swinging....and almost shot my personal best!

Good Luck, KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
    July 14th, 2008 - AUS consultation with Dr. Morey at UT Southwestern (Dallas).
    Aug. 22nd, 2008 - AUS Surgery by Dr. Morey

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   Posted 8/6/2008 11:50 PM (GMT -6)   
your doin good ol buddy , my bag was off on day5 and it was no big deal , i went back to work in 3 weeks  NO HEAVY STUFF THO it is actually good news that you have no bloody discharge this means that yuo were stiched up very carefully from the inside it does matter i had no blood ever your gonna be fine dont over do it and remember positive attitude is everything i was back on my harley in 5 weeks and never looked back my surgeon said do what your body tells you . i know i know .everyones got an opinion this is just mine if you resarch my surgeon you will find he has world class skills and knowledge and has authored several papers  just throwin it out there i trusted everything he said and do to this day good luck my brother we are all in this together..................dirt

Diagnosed November 2007   (43 years old )
PSA 3.9 / Gleason 6 / TC1 6 cores 1 shows 25%
Sugery scheduled 5/29/08 - City of Hope - Dr. Mark Kawachi
 "First show of the day"
 and now for the new ive been waiting for
 FINAL PATH REPORT:gleason upgraded to 3+4 T2c bilateral disease,tumor involvment 5%
extra prostatic extention:absent
seminal vesical invasion :absent
pathological staging:pTNM pT2 ORGAN CONFINED
margins free of carcinoma
usable erections ;6-6-08 with little blue pill
continence; 1 pad a day, dry at night

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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 308
   Posted 8/7/2008 1:12 PM (GMT -6)   


Been there done that.  Not to be pessamistic or anything but, I had two friends on this site who had DaVinci and pushed to fast.  They both got abdominal Hernias and they both said the repair was worse that the DaVinci.  I was down to one pad a day and then I went Golfing.  Geez, I was so sore and leaked from the 8th -18th hole.  I went through three pads.  Several weeks later I saw the Doc and he laughed,  he said he hears this a lot from the Golfers. He said that Golf requires one to twist and strain at the same time.  It often makes a recovering patient sore and leaking alot is not uncommon.  He said I should'nt be able hurt anything severly after the 4 weeks mark but I will likely be sore for a few days.  He told me to listen to my body.

Its great that you are doing well but this is major surgery.  Take it easy.  In time you will completely heal. Start slowly, hit a few balls on the range to start and see how that feels after 4 weeks.





Diagnosed 01-08-08 @ 53 years old 
DRE normal , 2004 Biospy negative - 2008 Biopsy positive (01-08-08)
10 cores, 1 positive and at 1% of that one core
PSA @ surgery 6 
Bone and Ct scans negative
clinicaly Staged at T1C - Gleason 3+3 = 6
Robotic Da Vinci performed March 27th, 2008
University of Chicago,Hospital stay 30 hours - Catheter out in 7 days  normaly expected leakage Erectile function better with Viagra
Post Pathology T2C, Gleason 7, 10 % of both portions of prostate, Seminal vessels clear, fat tissue clear,Tumor on top of prostate. 1 positve margin measureing less than .5 ml at urethra and bladder..
Six week PSA < 0.1 , 4 month PSA <.05 Gen II test.  Urologist recomends to hold off on Radiation and watch PSA closely. Oncologist and Radiation Oncologist seem to lean to doing pre-emptive radiation.Uroligist says 50/50 chance of PSA re-occurence.  
I have decided to hold off and see for 3 months.
Next PSA October...

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