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Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/8/2008 4:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I know this may be a bit off topic but, I saw the big red bus (the bloodmobile) yesterday parked in front of a Wallmart on my way home from work and thought, they told me after 5 years of clear PSA I could give blood. So I stopped to see if it was true. The welcomed me like a long lost relative! It took 45minutes (small veins) but I was able to pump them out a good pint and was rewarded w/ a smile, a glass of OJ and a smile! It just made me feel good to help again, thats all folks!
Your friend,
Pete 

55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/8/2008 6:41 AM (GMT -6)   

Is there a wait time after PC surgery?

I've been meaning to give some....


Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/8/2008 6:49 AM (GMT -6)   
Steve,
They told me 5 years clean PSA tests but I'm not sure if thats for all cancers. Maybe someone else knows??
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


jrponalameda
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   Posted 10/8/2008 7:06 AM (GMT -6)   
The Red Cross calls me a lot, apparently my blood type is in high demand, so I've had several discussions with them on this topic. Apparently the deferral can be as low as 1 year now... I assume that's one year of low PSA in the case of PC. Here's something off a Red Cross website:
 
Good News! After careful consideration, the Red Cross now believes that it is acceptable for most cancer survivors to donate blood 12 months after their last treatment is completed if they meet all other eligibility criteria. The American Red Cross recently changed the deferral criteria for blood donors with a history of non-blood cancers such as breast, lung, brain, colon and prostate cancers from a 5-year deferral to a 12-month deferral after treatment for cancer.
 
 
John
Diagnosed Sep 2007 Age 54 Gleason 6 (3+3)
DaVinci Surgery 11/8/07 University of Minnesota
2/22/08, 8/15/08 PSA Undetectable


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/8/2008 7:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Thats GREAT news! I wish they had done that 4 years ago!
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/8/2008 7:37 AM (GMT -6)   
"the Red Cross now believes that it is acceptable for most cancer survivors to donate blood 12 months after their last treatment is completed if they meet all other eligibility criteria"
 
I would think this would refere to people that went the radiation route??
Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


Roger G
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   Posted 10/8/2008 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
No cookie with that OJ ;) I guess this means sometime later this fall I can go and donate again.
Age: 43 (2008)
DRE Small Ridge on prostate, PSA 1.5
07/2007: Diagnosed cancer, T2c, Gleason 3+4=7
08/2007: Bone Scan found something on my skull. PCa surgery on hold
             Had piece of skull removed to test for PCa.
09/2007: Laparoscopic prostectomy @ Hamilton General, 4 hrs.
             Both nerve bundles spared
             Pathology Report: Tumour confined w/in prostate
             T2c, Gleason is 3+3=6
             Went home with JP drain
10/2007: Made return trip to hospital.  All urine was coming out JP drain.
10/2007: Catheter removed. Next to no leakage
11/2007: 1st PSA <.003.  Started Viagra for ED, no response yet.
             Having some issue with Vertigo from skull operation.
12/2007: Had confidence to go padless!!!!!
12/2007: ED:  Stopped Viagra as it's causing hemroid problems.
01/2008: 2nd PSA <.003 :) ED: next to no response.
             Vertigo is subsiding.
04/2008: 3nd PSA <.003 :) ED: Changed the Viagra prescription.
07/2008: 4nd PSA <.003 :) ED: Still NADA.  Changing to Cialis.
             Dizzy spells are occurring more often
09/2008: Trying Levitra 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/8/2008 8:37 AM (GMT -6)   
No cookie, she took one look at me and just knew I didn't need any cookies! I was lucky to get the OJ!!!
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


njiceman
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   Posted 10/8/2008 11:12 AM (GMT -6)   

This is interesting.  17 years ago I had a melanoma removed from my chest.  They continued to tell me that I could no longer donate blood because of the cancer. My blood type is A- and although not rare it is less common than most.  Prior to that I had donated almost 5 gallons over the years.  Our company had the blood mobile in at least twice a year.  I was always disappointed that I could no longer give blood. nono

I guess I'll have to remember this and do some further investigation regarding their new policy on donation.

Thanks for the info.

Wayne


Age- 59 @ Diagnosis
Diagnosed July 2007
PSA-4.0 (Free psa 11%)
Biopsy August 2007 - 2 of 4 on Right Side with 20%, Stage T1c
Gleason (3+4)
Cat Scan & Bone Scan both Clean
DaVinci Surgery Nov. 26th RWJUH Cancer Center, New brunswick, NJ
11/27/07  Home & on the road to recovery
12/4/2007 Catheter Out!
Pathology Report:  Gleason 3+3=6
                          Stage   T2c
                          Organ contained Negative Margins
1/1/08  Back to Officiating Wrestling
2/27/08 1st Post Op PSA...<0.1 Undetectable
Still using a pad everyday for minor leaks (using Detrol for bladder spasms)
4/1/08 Trying Levitra every other day  very little response :(
5/6/08 Stopped the Detrol....Didn't help anyway.
Response to stimulation getting better for Mr. Happy
5/30/08  PSA...0.1
9/22/08  PSA...0.1  Still minor leakage  ED getting better


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/8/2008 2:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I emailed a local "Carter Blood Care" company and asked about donating. I specifically asked about "surgical removal." Here's their reply:

"Under current FDA guidelines, it must be five years after the end of your treatment before you can donate again. So in your case it would be 5 years from the date of your surgery. Please give us a call closer to that time to set up your appointment for you!"
Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/8/2008 2:45 PM (GMT -6)   

I emailed the lady back and mentioned ARC (american red cross) only has a 12 month waiting period...Here's another reply:

"That is very interesting. As blood centers we are given the latitude to take the FDA's guidelines and "adjust" with their permission. This in turn causes some of the differences between the blood centers. I wasn't aware that ARC had lowered their deferral time for cancer. Thank you for the information, I will definitely pass it along."

And I emailed ARC and asked them for clarification.

 


Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


BillyMac
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   Posted 10/8/2008 7:32 PM (GMT -6)   
It is much the same here in Australia regarding blood donors. I have been a blood donor for years but was told I could not give for 5 years. This stuck me as odd because apart form the usual questions posed when donating, surgery and an exclusion period were no where near this time. Cancer cannot be caught from another person... the recipients immune system will kill off foreign cells from the donor. But there is an exception. In those with a compromised immune system such as transplant recipients on immuno-suppressant drugs or those suffering serious illness that damages the immune system the cancer may be able to transplant and grow in the recipient. Theoretically it should be possible for a woman who underwent a transplant and is on immuno-suppressant drugs to acquire a prostate cancer, say in the bones, from an undiagnosed male donor.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)


Tim G
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   Posted 10/8/2008 8:46 PM (GMT -6)   
The FDA regulates blood donation for all blood centers in the U.S., Red Cross (about 50% of centers) and independent centers (the other 50%).  The eligibility requirements are that you wait one year from the end of treatment, for example, surgery or seed implants, and that there be no recurrence or further treatment.
 
I have been  a regular blood donor  for many years and celebrated my one-year anniversary of prostatectomy in June 2007 by donating blood.  Regrettably, I was booted off the national Bone Marrow Donor registry, which is a lifetime ban after prostate cancer diagnosis.
 
It goes without saying that you have to meet all the other eligibility requirements.   


Age 59  PSA quadrupled in 1 yr (0.6 to 2.5) 
DRE neg  1 of 12 biopsies pos (< 5%) 
Open surgery June 2006 
Organ confined pT2a  Gleason 5   
Cancer-free for 2 years  PSA's undetectable 


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/9/2008 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I got a really nice reply from the Red Cross:
 

Dear Mr. Jones:

 I am replying to your e-mail sent to us earlier this afternoon in which you asked for an explanation for the different deferral periods you were being told in regards to deferring a donor with a history of cancer.

Actually, the FDA does not mandate anything about cancer-related deferral periods per se.  Therefore, it is up to the individual blood centers or systems [like the American Red Cross Blood Services (ARCBS)] to set its own guidance.  Given no documented cases (in the medical literature) of transfusion-transmitted cancer, the ARCBS recently decided that the deferral period for non-hematologic* types of cancer could be reduced—to one year, a change from the prior 5-year deferral period.  Both deferral periods are arbitrary, but the thinking is that a one-year deferral would at least ensure that the donor (with history of cancer) has had the chance to regain his/her previous level of health.  We always have to keep in mind the safety of the blood we collect in terms of the patient, as well as in regards to the donor—we have to ensure that in collecting a unit of blood, we are not compromising the health of a volunteer blood donor!  As for the blood center that still defers a donor for 5 years, it might be in the process of changing to one year deferrals, too. 

Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.

* Non-hematologic cancers are the ones that do not arise from blood cells or the precursors of blood cells.  All cancers of the major organs, including those of the brain or skin, are “non-hematologic cancers.”  Leukemia, lymphoma, and multiple myeloma are examples of hematologic cancers, which require an indefinite deferral.

 Sincerely,

 Mei-chien H. Fucci, M.D.

Medical Officer, Southwest Region-Oklahoma

Chief Medical Officer, Central Plains Region


Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/9/2008 6:31 AM (GMT -6)   

Holy Shmoly!

I was just toying w/ the idea of writing to cellebrate my 1st blood donation with y'all. I never thought I was going to bring up such a provocative issue but I'm so glad I did. Now thanks to Steve, John, Bill & Tim we all know a lot more on the changes that have taken place w/ survivors giving blood. I wish there was a way to get this news out to all the others like us who still think it's 5 years untill they can donate blood. I'm sure loads of them would love to give but just don't know they can!!!

Your friend,

Pete


55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Steve n Dallas
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   Posted 10/9/2008 9:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Yeppers...I got a little carried away...I even sent the letter from the Red Cross to the  local "Carter Blood Care" company...The lady there sounded very greatful. Maybe they'll change to the one year rule and quit turning people away idea
Age 53   - 5'11"   205lbs
Overall Heath Condition - Good
PSA - July 2007 & Jan 2008 -> 1.3
Gleason - 6
(biopsy done March 4, 2008-> 2 of 12)
 
06/25/08 - Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy
10/03/08 - 1st Quarter PSA -> less then .01
 

Surgeon - Keith A. Waguespack, M.D.

Las Colinas and Plano Offices

 


Pete trips again!
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   Posted 10/9/2008 9:40 AM (GMT -6)   
You dun good Steve! I'm sure many here thank you> I waited 5 years but if I had taken the incentive you had, maybe I would have been able to give sooner! Good work Brother!!!
Pete
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 10/9/2008 10:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I think it varies by the stage and grade as well. I was told to keep my blood. But I amd still on HT and also Ace Inhibiters BP issues. And after radiation my blood just might glow too much. LOL. Truthfully, I don't know that I could ever donate again.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


Pete trips again!
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Total Posts : 1899
   Posted 10/10/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Tony,
If we ever meet, I'll do the cut finger blood brother thing w/ you if your up for it? I ain't afraid of your blood!!
<<<Brother Pete<<<
55 years old, Surgury, Radical Prostatectomy 8/20/03, PSA 6.6, Gleason 3 + 3 = 6, Adenocarcinoma extent (moderate) Stage & Margin:T2NOMX, No Metastases, Organ Confined, bone scan: Neg. 3 1/2 years of depression after surgery prior to Hypogonadizm DX, Testosterone Theropy (Testim Gel)since 12/06 but switched to a higher dose of (Androgel) 6/08. Fighting to stay upbeat daily. I am's what I am's and that's all that I am's! (Popeye)  55 and still alive!!! Feel free to pray for me, I can use all the help I can get!!!


kw
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Total Posts : 883
   Posted 10/10/2008 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
    I will have to check with my local center.  I can't wait to start giving agian.  We get a free t-shirt too!  Oh....and my work gives us 4 hours to "rest and recover".  BUT, they do not require a time stamp on the receipt so we can still go play 18 and have time to donate before they close!!!!!!....
 
    KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery (RRP)
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
    July 14th, 2008 - AUS consultation with Dr. Morey at UT Southwestern (Dallas).
    July 30, PSA 0.00.
    Aug. 22nd, 2008 - AUS Surgery by Dr. Morey
    Oct. 6th, 2008 - AUS Activation by Dr. Morey
     

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