Viagra vs Levitra Vs Cialis

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SHU93
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   Posted 11/17/2008 12:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Been taking a daily 25mg dose of Viagra, and 1 full 100 when trying no luck at all. Is it possible that Cialis and or Levitra could work for some people where Viagra did not? Or is it the same drug with a different name?
 
Thanks!
LIVESTRONG!
Age Dx 37, 7/2008
First PSA : 4.17 5/2008
Second PSA After 2 weeks of antibiotics : 3.9 6/2008
DRE: Negative 5/2008
Biopsy : 6 out 12 Postive all on right side, Gleason 7 (3+4).
Bone Scan/CAT Scan: Clear 7/2008
Cystoscope: Normal 7/2008
Prostate MRI: Normal 7/2008
Da Vinci Surgery 7/2008
PostOp: T2c (On Both sides), margins clear, seminal clear, nodes, clear. Gleason 6(3+3).
First PostOp PSA 9/2008: <0.01
2nd PSA 12/2008: Praying for <0.01
 


Doting Daughter
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   Posted 11/17/2008 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
They have the same mechanism of action, but different drugs work differently for different people. I would definitely recommend trying the different ones out. (I don't have first hand experience, but I use to sell one of the ED drugs, so I have heard numerous first hand accounts from physicians of patients that have responded to one and not the other.) Good luck!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Oct. 10, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

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James C.
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   Posted 11/17/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Most docs will cycle thru the 3 major ones during the ED rehab process, to see if another will work. sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Want know til you try.. wink
James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
Present- 1 year: ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix .10ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's: 3 mts-.04, 6 mts.-.04, 9 mts.-.04, 1 Year-.02.


John Bonneville
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   Posted 11/17/2008 4:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes this class of drugs efficacy does tend to differ between individual persons. The drugs do have a slightly different molecular structure so as not to infringe on drug patents. I find however, that whilst all of them are effective for my ED and allowing me ti have intercourse, Cialis gives me a very long lasting severe headache. Levitra causes flu like symptoms, stuffy nose, blocked ears etc. And Viagra from the Phizer Drug company also causes mild headaches. Fortunately with the generic viagra from alldaychemist, it works a treat and no headaches whatsoever.

**** Funny isn't it, us men don't mind a bit of a headache to enable us to have sex, whilst for women, a headache is a good opportunity to abstain. LOL
Diagnosed March 2007, Age 57
Positive DRE, 12 Core Biopsy, 6 cores positive PCa,
Gleason 7 (4+3), Stage T2B
Rx 9 months LHRH ADT Lucrin, Neo Adjuvant,
Gold Seed implants 2 weeks prior to EBRT
70gy 3D Conformal EBRT

PSA: Nov 2006 = 6.0 ng/ml
May 2007 = 5.9 ng/ml * 1st Lucrin IMI
Aug 2007 = 0.85 ng/ml* 2nd Lucrin IMI
Nov 2007 = 0.45 ng/ml * 3rd Lucrin IMI
Jan 2008 = 0.29 ng/ml * 8 weeks EBRT and TURP in May
June 2008 = 0.12 ng/ml
Sept 2008 = 0.14 ng/ml

* No incontinence, mild ED, which resoponds well to generic viagra.


Ralph Alfalfa
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   Posted 11/17/2008 9:31 PM (GMT -6)   
good one, John. 

jrponalameda
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   Posted 11/18/2008 8:04 AM (GMT -6)   

The different meds can definitely have different results for an individual. I tried Levitra first and the side effects (headache, nasal in my case) were quite strong while I got virtually no help for ED. I tried Cialis next, same side effects but much milder, and considerably better help on the ED. I haven't tried Viagra.

That being said, do keep in mind that from a nerve recovery viewpoint, you're still fairly early in the process. I was also having much more difficulty in your time frame than I'm having now. Stay positive, and be aware that some patience may be required!


Diagnosed Sep 2007 Age 54 Gleason 6 (3+3)
DaVinci Surgery 11/8/07 University of Minnesota
2/22/08, 8/15/08 PSA Undetectable


chrisinmaine
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   Posted 11/18/2008 10:38 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes please tonight--I have a headache!
Age 51
March 08 PSA prior to biopsy 6.65
PSA caught in life insurance exam.
Completely asymptomatic.
April 08 Biopsy: Gleason Grade 3+4=7
Tumor in 5 of 13 cores
July 22, 08 Radical Robotic Prostatectomy
All nerves spared
Pathology: Margins clean, Seminal Vesicles negative for tumor
Gleason Grade 3+4=7 Percent Gleason Grade 4-20% no Gleason grade 5.
First post-op PSA scheduled for 10/08
Very minor incontinence since catheter removal on 7/29
ED assisted by low dose of Levitra. So far so good.
I feel very, very lucky.


M. Kat
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   Posted 11/19/2008 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
John - that is a good one! SHU93 - please try all three drugs. as you can see from below, Jeff found one that finally worked for him.
Husband Jeff 56 years old diagnosed July 27, 2006
PSA 6.5, 2 positive areas in biopsy, Gleason 3+3=6
Radical Retropubic Prostatectomy August 30, 2006
pathology report - all clear - cancer gone
1st post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 2nd post-surgery PSA test <0.1, 3rd PSA <0.1
no more pads Oct 12, 2006
first "real" erection with use of pump 12/16/06
3/07 - occasional dribbles and erections with Cialis and pump
8/07 - 1 yr PSA <0.1
9/1/07 - achieved erection with Viagra - no pump!
3/08 - 18 mo PSA <0.1
switched to Levitra - works much better than Viagra & Cialis - fewer side affects
summer of 2008 - have had a few erections with no drugs! yeah!!
8/08 - 2 yr PSA <0.1


Pux
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   Posted 11/19/2008 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   

My uro wrote an article in our local paper stating that in clinical trials he had a much higher sucess rate with Levitra than any of the others. He started me out with Viagara, I see him tomorrow and I suspect he will want me to switch to Levitra.

Pux

 


Age 62 Born Dec 30/45
Diagnosed with regular check up PSA 4.7
Biopsy Sept 2007  7 of 12 positive
Surgery- Da Vinci Nov 13- London Ontario- Canada
PSA MAR 3 .03 UNDETECTABLE
 


SHU93
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   Posted 11/19/2008 4:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the info, definately going to recommend switching since the blue pill is seeing no effects.

LIVESTRONG!
Age Dx 37, 7/2008
First PSA : 4.17 5/2008
Second PSA After 2 weeks of antibiotics : 3.9 6/2008
DRE: Negative 5/2008
Biopsy : 6 out 12 Postive all on right side, Gleason 7 (3+4).
Bone Scan/CAT Scan: Clear 7/2008
Cystoscope: Normal 7/2008
Prostate MRI: Normal 7/2008
Da Vinci Surgery 7/2008
PostOp: T2c (On Both sides), margins clear, seminal clear, nodes, clear. Gleason 6(3+3).
First PostOp PSA 9/2008: <0.01
2nd PSA 12/2008: Praying for <0.01
 


SebringR
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   Posted 11/19/2008 10:05 PM (GMT -6)   

I have tried them all with limited success.  It seems the 100mg Viagra is the best for me.  The Cialis works longer, but the day after back ache that then lasts two days is just not worth the effort.  I can prevent the back ache by reducing the amount of medicine, but then it does less.

I have only taken Levitra a couple of times and have no real opinion.  Overall it is just great to be cancer free and my big challenge is trying to get big again.


Age 51
Father died of prostate cancer at 73
Yearly PSA testing.
Biopsy after PSA went up .75 in one year
6 of 12 in needle biopsy where cancerous
DaVinci surgery 4/15/2008
Last PSA .008
 


apacker1950
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   Posted 11/20/2008 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
The Big three didn't help me either so I tried Trimix injections and get very good results. If you are interested I will be happy to go into more detail. It's not for everyone but it sure works for my wife and me. Good Luck

SHU93
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   Posted 11/21/2008 7:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Does it hurt, any side effects short and long term?
Age Dx 37, 7/2008
First PSA : 4.17 5/2008
Second PSA After 2 weeks of antibiotics : 3.9 6/2008
DRE: Negative 5/2008
Biopsy : 6 out 12 Postive all on right side, Gleason 7 (3+4).
Bone Scan/CAT Scan: Clear 7/2008
Cystoscope: Normal 7/2008
Prostate MRI: Normal 7/2008
Da Vinci Surgery 7/2008
PostOp: T2c (On Both sides), margins clear, seminal clear, nodes, clear. Gleason 6(3+3).
First PostOp PSA 9/2008: <0.01
2nd PSA 12/2008: Praying for <0.01
 


Lungman
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   Posted 11/21/2008 9:34 AM (GMT -6)   
It is possible that a different drug may be successful. I initially tried Levitra and noticed some enlargement, then Cialis, same result. Viagra, both brand name and generic from ADC seem to work the best if not the fastest. Have some facial flushing with all three, seems to lessen with time. I am not sure if the meds are working better or if I am having recovery of natural function, which I hope is the case. The doses I have tried are Viagra 100mg, Cialis 5mg and 20 mg, and Levitra 20mg. I am lucky in that I have not had any backaches or significant headaches with any of them, but the facial flushing is worse with Levitra. All three are the same class of drug, just different chemical makeup as I understand it to allow Levitra and Cialis to remain active longer due to longer half-life in the body before being metabilized.
Randy
46 you when diagnosed, now 48
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.01, 6 Month PSA 0.01, 9 Month PSA 0.01
One Year PSA 0.01
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement.
Occasional Success with Oral Meds
Success with BiMix


JustJulie
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Total Posts : 355
   Posted 11/21/2008 11:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Of the three, we had the best success with Levitra (and only when needed).  Apparently Viagra and Levitra are expelled from your system quicker, Cialis takes longer so most doctors recommend Viagra or Levitra first, then Cialis - so I'm told.

Husband diagnosed in December 2005
PSA of 3.74
Gleason 6
Brachytherapy (91 stranded seeds) April 2006
PSA of 0.39 - November 2008 - whoo hooo!
 


Bob D
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   Posted 11/22/2008 12:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I take 10mg Cialis on Monday night and Friday night. It keeps me "good to go" anytime.
I have no side effects from it. I get 80% erections naturally. The 10mg Cialis puts me at 100%.
    1. Age 59, psa 4.7 in Jan. 08. Biopsy: one positive sample out of 13. 1% of one sample cancer. Prostate removed on 3/5/08. Open Surgery. Northeast Georgia Medical Center, Gainesville Ga. Nerves spared. Cath out 12 days later. Continence good. No pads needed since 6/10/08. First PSA: Less than 0.1 on 6/17/08. First erection five days post op and have been improving well since then. Full erection now possible (less than four months post op) with the assistance of Cialis.  Post Op Biopsy : No malignant cells in lymph node. Gleason 3=4=7. Tumor on both lobes. Urethral margins/apex free of neoplasia. Right and left seminal vesicles free of neoplasia. No invasion of prostatic capsule of the resection margins are noted by the tumor. Tumor occupies 10 to15% of the prostate gland. Path staging T2c, NO, MX- Group staging II.  Focal areas of perineural invasion by tumor are noted. 80% natural erections and full erections with 10mg Cialis. 9/22/08-Took 10mg Cialis on Monday night, had very usable full hard erection at night, the next morning, and the following Thursday morning, 60 hours after original dose !! Orgasm quality Excellent.!!!!! I am pleased with the progress so far. Married to same wonderful woman for 39 years. She is still beautiful and sexy as ever. A great help in my recovery !!:


mwj4nyc
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   Posted 11/27/2008 6:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey How's your vision with taking all these drugs? Cialis works the best for me. Levitra didn't last long at all. Never took Viagra

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