Day 32 - Catheter Finally Out

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Purgatory
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm sure you will all be glad to know that my catheter was finally taken out at day 32.  There was a little weird pressure feeling and a quick burning pain, but it popped right out on the first try.  My doctor thinks the extra healing time with the cath in was for my own good, he said the many painful spasms I had (and complained often) were actually the sign of a strong bladder.  It's been out for about 2 hours now, haven't leaked a drop yet on my first pad.  Have been able to urinate pretty well normal, though it takes a bit longer, and was able to stop stream in mid air at will, hope those are all good signs for continence.
 
He wants to see me on Jan. 5th, and will take first post surgery PSA test at that time, and hopefully at week 7 1/2, release me to regular duty so to speak.  I can drive now and take regular baths, etc, but still no heavy lifting.  Like all men here, I am looking forward to joining the zero club with that first PSA reading.  Best to one and all.
 
David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin


DoingFine
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Total Posts : 46
   Posted 12/15/2008 11:55 AM (GMT -6)   
That's Great!

I am happy it went easy and well . . . It's great that you seem to be having little problem.

I had mine for 28 days, and can "kind-of" sympathize (28 is not 32).

I wish a great holiday season for you.

Cheers,
Rich
Age at dx: 51 Age now: 52
Great health: Riding bike 200+ miles weekly; no symptoms
First PSA: 4.7 March 2008 (bummer)
Second PSA: 4.97 June 2008
Biopsy June 2008
Positive 5 of 12 cores (real bummer) T1c
Gleason 3+3
Bone scan: 7 July negative
RRP surgery 3 Sept 2008 at the Mayo Clinic: Rochester, MN
All clear
Catheter out 22 Sept 8:30 AM, catheter back in at 11:30 (not happy)
Catheter out 30 Sept (this time for good!)
Total continence, no erectile difficulties from day one (Cialis 10mg daily)
Back on bike 15 Oct. (42 days . . . with doc's approval)
Dec. 2 2008 psa Undetectable!


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/15/2008 11:59 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey Rich, 28 is still a lot.
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin


Todd1963
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   Posted 12/15/2008 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Congrats david. I am praying you have many zeros in your future. I am really glad I have never had a cath. God bless you. Todd
dx:06/03/06
Age at dx: 42 age now 45
Treated for sciatic nerve pain 6 months prior to dx.
Heavy amount of blood in urine Unable to urinate 
Lung x-ray for pnumonia revealed multiple lesions in each lung
P.S.A. at time of dx. 3216.14
Began lupron and casodex
Cat scan showed large mass in the pelvic area affecting the bladder multiple nodules in both lungs and lymph node envolvement.
Bone scan revealed possible bone involvment in the pelvic area
Biopsy 12 of 12 cores positive gleason 3+4=7
P.S.A.s since lupron 2946, 1274, 532, 5.01 1.23, .09
Begining jan 08 psa .o9, .25, .44, .86, .73, 1.34, 1.49. Doubling time is a little over 3 months


Purgatory
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Total Posts : 25364
   Posted 12/15/2008 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Best to you living, hope your spirits are better, with what you are dealing with, I feel terrible to have complained at all, but I guess we all react differently to what crosses us in life. The dr. re-reviewed my post surgery report with me, and said, that they have every reason to believe that I will remain cancer free from this surgery, although, certainly not a guaranteee of a come back.

david
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8,
Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin
 
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled for 1/5/9
 
 


Todd1963
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   Posted 12/15/2008 12:26 PM (GMT -6)   
check out my latest post bro. I feel darn good today. Todd

dx:06/03/06
Age at dx: 42 age now 45
Treated for sciatic nerve pain 6 months prior to dx.
Heavy amount of blood in urine Unable to urinate 
Lung x-ray for pnumonia revealed multiple lesions in each lung
P.S.A. at time of dx. 3216.14
Began lupron and casodex
Cat scan showed large mass in the pelvic area affecting the bladder multiple nodules in both lungs and lymph node envolvement.
Bone scan revealed possible bone involvment in the pelvic area
Biopsy 12 of 12 cores positive gleason 3+4=7
P.S.A.s since lupron 2946, 1274, 532, 5.01 1.23, .09
Begining jan 08 psa .o9, .25, .44, .86, .73, 1.34, 1.49. Doubling time is a little over 3 months


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25364
   Posted 12/15/2008 1:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Todd,

I read it, and that is really great news, must feel great for you to get even that much of a break. I am hoping only the very best for you, and hope you can enjoy the holidays ahead.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8,
Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin
 
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled for 1/5/9
 
 


James C.
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Total Posts : 4462
   Posted 12/15/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
David, that is great news indeed.  Sounds like you may be one of the early dry guys in the making.  A couple days or weeks will tell the tale.  The fact you went 32 days tells me that the usual post surgery swelling is mostly gone by now, where as guys who have the catheter 10 days or less is still healing and still swelled from surgery, and some begin to leak once the swelling goes down, so your continence so far after removal sounds like a good trend.  Anyway, congrats, and looking forward to your zero club appearance..lol
James C.
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
Age 61
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 (open) Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy performed
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
Present- 1 year: ED- Viagra, pump continues, no response- Trimix ..35ml x 2 weekly continues
Post Surgery PSA's: 3 mts-.04, 6 mts.-.04, 9 mts.-.04, 1 Year-.02.


Purgatory
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   Posted 12/15/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -6)   
James, I am hopeful of that very thought, but realize its early in the game, still hoping my surgeon/dr knows what he's talking about.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8,
Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin
 
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled for 1/5/9
 
 


Magaboo
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Total Posts : 1210
   Posted 12/15/2008 1:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Purgatory,

Congratulations on finally getting rid of the plastic tubing so effortlessly. I had mine in for half that time and that was enough for me. The important thing is that you seam to have a very good start on continence and hopefully you will join and stay in the zero club very soon.
All the best to you.

Magaboo
Born Sept., 1936
PSA 7.9
Stage T1C
-ve DRE
Gleason's Score 3+4=7
2 of 8 positive
open RP 28 Nov 06
Post op staging T3a
Gleasons still 3+4=7
Seminal vesicles and lymph nodes clear
Catheter out 15 Dec 06
Dry since 11 Feb 07
All PSA tests in 2007 (4) <.04
PSA tests in 2008: Mar.=.04; Jun.=.05; Sept.=.08; 3 days before Rad Start=0.1
Salvage RT stated 3rd Nov., 08 (33 sessions). Total Grays=66


Tony Crispino
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Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 12/15/2008 3:55 PM (GMT -6)   
David,
What a long ride on the catheter. I am glad to see you are through with it. I bet that stream picks up. Usually the catheter can cause swelling too. I wish you the very best as you continue to heal. I too have a date in January for my nect PSA. I live in vegas and I'll bet we both get the beloved zeros...

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


Lungman
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Date Joined Jan 2008
Total Posts : 276
   Posted 12/15/2008 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
David, congrats on losing your sidekick. I only had mine in for 10 days, I can't imagine having one for that long. Being able to start and stop your urine stream is a good sign. I hope you have continued success with continence, it is truly a blessing.
Randy
46 you when diagnosed, now 48
Pre-Op PSA 9.9
1 of 12 cores positive, Gleason 3+3
DaVinci on 9/5/2007
Post-Op Gleason 3+6, Negative Nodes and Margins
Less than 1% of prostate involved with CA
3 Month PSA 0.01, 6 Month PSA 0.01, 9 Month PSA 0.01
One Year PSA 0.01
Incontinence resolved 9/15/2007, one day after cath removal
ED showing significant improvement.
Occasional Success with Oral Meds
Success with BiMix


coxjajb
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 184
   Posted 12/15/2008 4:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm glad to read the positive news. Good luck. Each day gets better. Let me remind you what someone on the forum said, "squeez before you sneeze". Maybe we need to print that on a tee shirt.  tongue
Age 50
Pre - Op PSA, 4.3
Gleason 3+4=7
Stage T1C
da Vinci Prostatectomy 8/1/08
No issues with incontinence since day 1 after catheter removal
ED, need a little help from Levitra
First post op PSA 11/11/08, 0.00


Sam Benton
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 35
   Posted 12/15/2008 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I only had mine in for 10 days and went a little crazy,not sure how you took it for that long! You've got to be glad that part is over. Take care
Sam

DJBearGuy
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Total Posts : 714
   Posted 12/15/2008 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   
Now we (I) can be a bit jealous of you for a change. Hope my de-catheterization goes as well as yours.
Age 53
Diagnosed September 2008.
6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
More to come....


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25364
   Posted 12/15/2008 7:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Well Sam, the last two weeks, I think I did go crazy, didn't think it would ever end, became an obsession, but fortunately, it came to pass, of which I am thankful. I still totally trust my dr/surgeon's reason for wanting it to stay in for so long. That's why he gets paid the big bucks, me, just try to be compliant within reason.

DJBear - I hope yours goes well too, everything with PC seems to be hit and miss from my observation, and sometimes there's no rhyme or reason for how we react to things.

David
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 2007 5.8
PSA 9-2008 14.9
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive
7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%
2 tumours noted, Gleason 4+3 and 3+4
 
Open RP surgery completed on Friday, November 14, 2008 at
St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon,
Non-nerving sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8,
Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes. Left lobe: infiltrating tumor miscroscopically appears to extend to marked left posterior margin
 
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled for 1/5/9
 
 


Bluenose
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 260
   Posted 12/15/2008 7:56 PM (GMT -6)   

 

....wow, I'm glad you got that thing out! ....that many days, well, i'm glad it's gone! Congrats on the cath being out....now start healing well....you're doing great!!


 
   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA  spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      Gleason-3+4=7
      T2a
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"
       DaVinci completed 7.29.08, Bladder Sling installed, hernia repair 
       completed during surgery.    
        Sent home 30hrs,  JP drain in place 7days,
       Path report "cancer fully contained"....Margins clear
        Cath removed 8.8.08(ten days)...one lightly used pad 24 hours
        ED therapy begins 8.9.08. 100mg viagra three times a week,
        pump everyday and hold for ten minutes.
        8.16.08 switched to Levitra 20mg.......whahoo, got lucky...
        immediate results..... 
        9.15.08 pad free at night, one thin (light) pad during the daytime
        hours. Just because I'm chicken..!
         9.18.08 1st post-0p-PSA-Undetectable...Zero's!  Yes!
 
           ..."just tryin' to reason with hurricane season"..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
       


Ralph Alfalfa
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 12/15/2008 8:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Atta boy, David

But tell me. Don't you miss your little plastic buddy just a little bit. Like a toothache. Just joshin'..

Great news.
Bob
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas

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