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Tony Crispino
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   Posted 12/24/2008 3:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi DarrkMann1,
I don't think your doctor said female hormones, per se, but rather hormone therapy.  Female hormones like DES (estrogen) are rarely used on the front line.  Instead, depriving you of testosterone is more common, (kinda female like)...Agents like Lupron, Zoladex, Eligard, or Trelstar are use with Casodex to do this...I have been on these drugs for nearly two years, but we were absolutely sure the cancer had left the prostate capsule.
So maybe wait!  It is way too early to render this suggestion unless there is physical proof that a systemic treatment like this is absolutely necessary.  If it being suggested because your PSA is near 10, then ask if it is possible to run more extensive tests to verify the disease stage. 
Welcome to the best site on the web for caring, compassionate support.  Learn as much as you can before deciding a treatment.  While it is proven that radiation of any kind is more effective with adjuvant radiation and/or surgery, you should also consider what to do if you have to add steps due to unsatisfactory results.  If then you are happy with your plan, execute it and don't look back. 

Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
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Tony Crispino
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Date Joined Dec 2006
Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 12/24/2008 3:23 PM (GMT -6)   

In another thread Darrkmann1 said...


I am newly diagnosed with prostate cancer 10/23/08 and going through the motions of decsion making for treatment. After stumbling across Proton Therapy online, I've pretty much decided to pursue it as my treatment option.

Last Thursday I had my first consultaion at MPRI in Bloomington, Indiana. Everything was going fine until the Doctor told me that He wanted to treat me with female hormones for 2 months prior to starting the treatment, 2 months during and 2 months after the treatment.

I'm just not feeling that, particularly with the new laundry list of possible side effects.

My gleason is 7, my PSA is 9.5 and I had a 12 core biopsy with cancer found in 2 of the 12 cores. No other symptoms... my test were ordered based on a heightened PSA during a routine physical.

I didn't note anywhere in your journal where you evben mentioned female hormonal treatment? Were you ever even approached with it?


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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 637
   Posted 12/24/2008 8:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Dark.....We are here for you with what we have all gone through. I agree with Tony. I don't think any doctor would give you female hormones. If they do, I would run if I were you! Diane
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009

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Total Posts : 1382
   Posted 12/25/2008 8:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the site Dark I know this was not the Christmas gift you or your family intended but never the less it is so lets make something out of it. Continue to do your research and by all means ask questions here on the forum. The best defense for cancer is educating your self as to the options available. I think you will be impressed with the wealth of knowledge you will find here. This may not be the direction you wanted 2009 to go but I will 100% guarantee that you will find blessings along this journey. Stay with us my friend.

peace and love
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .06
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
cancer in 4 of 6 cores

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