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Tony Crispino
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   Posted 12/30/2008 5:43 PM (GMT -6)   
You wouldn't think a discussion about a game console would belong on a prostate cancer forum.  Ruthie and I got a Nintendo Wii for Christmas with the Wii Fit excercise board and software.  I have been working out every day with it and it is very enjoyable and will have me sweating quite well by the time I am done.  It actually measures weight, BMI, posture, balance, and weight shifting.  It provides full trainers and links to the internet for information and such.  It also contains graphs that show you your progress, and advances you with each workout.  It has Yoga, strength training, balance games, and areobics.
 
I need to lose some weight, no doubt, and to me working out has always been boring.  This is quite enjoyable and it also has an added benefit ~ the kids love it too.  I have never been a gamer, but this is something that if you are considering an exercize device, you should look hard at the Wii Fit.  The kids and grandkids will love ya for it, too.
 
There I did it.  I recommended a Wii game console for the fight against prostate cancer.  And I meant it too...lol
 
Here is the link to the Wii Fit, check it out...Click Here.  If you try it you will likely buy it.
 
PS: It yelled at me after eating too much the other day...
 
Tony


Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 

Post Edited (TC-LasVegas) : 12/30/2008 4:39:16 PM (GMT-7)


livinadream
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   Posted 12/30/2008 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks for that info Tony I am going to check it out.

peace to you my friend
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .06
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


Bluenose
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 260
   Posted 12/30/2008 6:18 PM (GMT -6)   

 

..aren't those things incrediable Tony? They work for the workouts....I work at a VA hospital, every ward has a Wii...the excercise the guys get from them are astounding. Shoot in a couple months we won't reconize you!!      Just don't throw the controller through the TV screen!! :)


 
   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA  spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      Gleason-3+4=7
      T2a
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"
       DaVinci completed 7.29.08,
       Bladder Sling installed, umbilical hernia repair  
       completed during surgery.    
        Sent home 30hrs,  JP drain in place 7days,
       Path report "cancer fully contained"....Margins clear
        Cath removed 8.8.08(ten days)...one lightly used pad 24 hours
        ED therapy begins 8.9.08. 100mg viagra three times a week,
        pump everyday and hold for ten minutes.
        8.16.08 switched to Levitra 20mg.......whahoo, got lucky...
        immediate results..... 
        9.15.08 pad free at night, one thin (light) pad during the daytime
        hours. Just because I'm chicken..!
         9.18.08 1st post-0p-PSA-Undetectable...Zero's!  Yes!
         12.22.08 2nd post-op PSA-Zeros still...  
           .
         .."just tryin' to reason with hurricane season"..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
       


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 753
   Posted 12/30/2008 6:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Spent the day Wii bowling with my son the other day. You can get in 6 games and it doesn't stress your arm/back with that heavy ball, but still requires some useful movement.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Tony Crispino
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Total Posts : 8128
   Posted 12/30/2008 6:33 PM (GMT -6)   

DJ, Blue,

You guys are so right.  And this device is amazing!  I have added a link to my original post.  While yes you can play the fun games, there are also some strenuous exercise routines with the Wii Fit accessory!  Excellent and fun!

Tony


Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


DJBearGuy
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Total Posts : 753
   Posted 12/30/2008 7:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony,

We've had our Wii for a year, tried to get a Wii Fit this winter but waited too long and everyplace around here was sold out. However, they'll be back sooner or later. In the meantime, there's still tennis, boxing, etc.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 12/30/2008 8:18 PM (GMT -6)   
DJ,
I just never imagined how a video game box could be so useful. I would buy one of these before any exercise device! And you are right, the games are fun too. Ruthie and I discussed getting one after our son'd girlfriend bought one and played it with us last June. Of course I did not know about the Wii Fit just yet, but Ruth said if we get one she wanted the Wii Fit. I had no idea to take it seriously. I am sold on after a very short time, and I am using it daily. LOL, I also like the horseshoes, the volleyball, the boxing, all the fun stuff!

I am not interested in the Guitar Hero or the Rock Band stuff...Mainly because I own over twenty guitars and have quite a bit of experience having played over thirty years. I used to tour when I was younger, so if I want to play that game...I can for real. BTW, you can get quite a workout that way too, but I don't see convincing a bunch of folks at a prostate cancer forum to play and sing some Alan Jackson, Kenny Chesney tunes for prostate health...lolol

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


Tim G
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Total Posts : 2302
   Posted 12/30/2008 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
This is a major advance from the Weider weights bench and Tunturi stationary bike which I use regularly.

I got in an exercise funk for about six month after my prostatectomy, but am now back doing what I've done before. I'm no Jack LaLanne, but I do about an hour of daily exercise.

And I've modified my diet somewhat to more of a Mediterranean diet. Tonight, however, it's an Omaha sirloin steak wrapped in bacon (A Christmas gift) for my sweetie and me!


DJBearGuy
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Total Posts : 753
   Posted 12/30/2008 8:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony,

This calls for some new music. Like maybe "Prostate Rock"?

Speaking of video games, somewhere I downloaded a computer game written by a young boy with cancer. The game play was a skateboarder who attacked cancer cells.

I just did a search for it, here it is:
http://www.makewish.org/site/pp.asp?c=bdJLITMAE&b=81924

Also found this more modern game:
http://re-mission.net/?gclid=CJHbx8fe6ZcCFQHBDAod60phDA

Our family has also enjoyed Mario Party, which is like an animated board game, and the famous Dance Dance Revolution, which can also give you a great workout. When the kids play DDR, the room shakes and things fall off the shelves.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Ralph Alfalfa
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 12/30/2008 9:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony,This game is even used in nursing homes to help these older folks get some exercise. My nephew has one and lost 10 pounds in one month. I'm getting one for the boxing and golf.
How cool is this? You play indoor games and break a nice sweat. And then come back for more.
Bob
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas


Todd1963
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 3218
   Posted 12/31/2008 12:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony. Last night my wife brought home the wii fit. The thing rocks. I love the bowling and boxing sports games but my wife used the fit to do yoga for over an hour last night. I will be messing with it today. I like the idea of playing the allen jackson and kenney chesney songs to work out but could you throw in a little blackfoot and ted nugent.

dx:06/03/06
Age at dx: 42 age now 45
Treated for sciatic nerve pain 6 months prior to dx.
Heavy amount of blood in urine Unable to urinate 
Lung x-ray for pnumonia revealed multiple lesions in each lung
P.S.A. at time of dx. 3216.14
Began lupron and casodex
Cat scan showed large mass in the pelvic area affecting the bladder multiple nodules in both lungs and lymph node envolvement.
Bone scan revealed possible bone involvment in the pelvic area
Biopsy 12 of 12 cores positive gleason 3+4=7
P.S.A.s since lupron 2946, 1274, 532, 5.01 1.23, .09
Begining jan 08 psa .o9, .25, .44, .86, .73, 1.34, 1.49. Doubling time is a little over 3 months
Cat Scan 12/12/08 Prostate normal size and shape. No tumors detected. Left lung clear of all nodules right lung showing only benign scar tissue. Lymph nodes normal


FLHW(David E)
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 201
   Posted 12/31/2008 12:20 PM (GMT -6)   
We've had a Wii since XMas 2006 and what a blast!
I still hold the house record in bowling, at 270!

Tony, Rock Band is actually a lot fun, but we are not a musical family so the experience may be different?

As for Wii Fit, with a birthday upcoming I might move this to the top of the list. However, I might have to get the
workout program from Jillian, the woman from NBC's 'Biggest Loser", I'd love to have her yell at me at 6:00am everyday!!!

Happy New Year to everyone and wish me luck and send prayers if you could in preparation for my eleventh chemo treatment on Monday!
Dx'd 2/18/05
PSA 271, bone mets, lymph node involvement
Gleason Score: 7
Current (12-12-08)
PSA: 38.99
Taxotere + Prednisone + Atrasentan
[10th Treatment on December 15th]
Clinical Trial:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00134056?term=prostate+AND+atrasentan&rank=2
Lupron
Personal Blog:
prostatecancerat42.blogspot.com


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 12/31/2008 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
David,
I don't bowl great on Wii, but I did maintain a 200 average on the real lanes a few years back. I once bowled a 278 and lost the round. The guy we were bowling against boweld a 299. We made it to the 8th frame clean when I left two pins wobbling. I picked them up and ran the rest. The guy with the 299, it was his 3rd 299 over a couple years in our league. I think I would rather have the 278 than keep missing that last ball...lol

I'd skip Jillian, the Wii Fit will keep dropping subtle hints on ya. Or at least on me. Once you try it, you'll agree! This is an excellent product. And I thank the guys who pointed out how hospitals and nursing homes are using them. I saw on TV how many nursing homes have internet bowling leagues and they compete with each other. This product is very fun, and it will make you want to work out. And my legs are sore from the strength exercizes. I highly recommend this game at any age group.

Tony
Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


divo
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Total Posts : 637
   Posted 12/31/2008 1:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony a great thread!! Life goes on and any diversion that is fun and makes you forget the darned cancer for a few minutes is great! Our son has the Wii and we tried it out over Christmas....I love the bowling! Pete is waiting for the hip operation next week before he can try anything... Di.
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


James C.
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Total Posts : 4462
   Posted 12/31/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Di, Pete can still play. You can do most of the things on the Sports games sitting down. I know I can and do bowl and play baseball sitting. It only takes your arm action to play. The Fit requires more body motion, of course, but the Sports games are a different thing.
James C.         Age 61
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 Nerve sparing Open Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
Post Surgery PSA's: 3 mts-.04, 6 mts.-.04, 9 mts.-.04, 1 Year-.02.


Tony Crispino
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   Posted 1/2/2009 4:44 AM (GMT -6)   
LOL,
I guess I was living in the dark ages and it looks like Dale and I are the last ones to get this stuff...

David E,
After about 40 games of bowling, I think I have figured it out. And if I was in your house...My 279 just may have taken the belt...So send it via FedEx turn please....lolol...

On the Wii Fit Exercise board, I have lost three pounds so far...Now if anyone tells me to look behind me, I will shut it off and revert back to my old ways. nono

Tony


Age 46 (44 when Dx)
Pre-op PSA was 19.8
Surgery on Feb 16, 2007 @ The City of Hope
Post-Op Pathology: Gleason 4+3=7, positive margins, Extra Prostatic Extension (EPE)
Bilateral seminal vesicle invasion (SVI); Stage pT3b, N0, Mx
HT began in May, '07 with Lupron and Casodex 50mg (2 Year ADT)
IMRT radiation for 38 Treatments ending August 3, '07
Current PSA (September 17 '08): <0.1 ~ Undetectable!
 
You can visit my Journey at:
 
STAY POSITIVE!
 
 


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 753
   Posted 1/2/2009 10:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Tony,

Hey, you managed to get a Wii Fit before many of us!

Have bowled in the 190's a few times, but never over 200. I have a ways to go before before I'm any competition to you.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


pasayten
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Date Joined Mar 2007
Total Posts : 437
   Posted 1/4/2009 12:42 AM (GMT -6)   

Tony,

Avis & I got the WII Fit and Mario Karts around October...  We have been loving it...   Maybe we all should post videos of us doing the hula hoops...   That would bring a few tears to people's eyes...

Now,  if somebody could make up a WII kegle exercise game...   :-)

 

 


After 3-4 years of annual PSA 4-6, biopsy recommended
3/13/2007 - 12 point biopsy - Left 0/6  Right 1/6 Gleason 3+3 T1c
4/24/2007 - DaVinci performed at Virginia Mason hospital in Seattle
5/2/2007 - Catheter Out! Final pathology of Gleason 6  T2c Nx Mx, approx 20% of prostate involved, positive margin, but only at 2 focal points.  
6/28/2007 9 weeks incontinance... Overnite, went from 4-6 soaked pads a day from prev 8 weeks to 2 barely wet pads a day.
7/12/2007 11 weeks post-op  Minimal leakage...  one small pad a day
7/18/2007 First Post-Op PSA...  0.01 !!! 
9/10/2007 Pad free and ED at 75% with 100mg Viagra generic
6/26/2008 2nd Post-OP PSA at 14 months...  0.02 


FLHW(David E)
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Date Joined Nov 2007
Total Posts : 201
   Posted 1/4/2009 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
ralph alfalfa said...
Tony,This game is even used in nursing homes to help these older folks get some exercise. My nephew has one and lost 10 pounds in one month. I'm getting one for the boxing and golf.
How cool is this? You play indoor games and break a nice sweat. And then come back for more.
Bob


Ralph, the boxing is a great way to get exercise, the golf game that comes with is lame! Tiger Woods golf for the Wii is great.
Dx'd 2/18/05
PSA 271, bone mets, lymph node involvement
Gleason Score: 7
Current (12-12-08)
PSA: 38.99
Taxotere + Prednisone + Atrasentan
[10th Treatment on December 15th]
Clinical Trial:
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00134056?term=prostate+AND+atrasentan&rank=2
Lupron
Personal Blog:
prostatecancerat42.blogspot.com


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 753
   Posted 1/4/2009 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
"Now, if somebody could make up a WII kegle exercise game... :-)"

I think what you can do is play the Star Wars Light Saber duel, but hold the controller between your legs. tongue
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Fensty
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 12
   Posted 1/7/2009 10:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I am a Wii convert. I got my wife the Wii Fit for Christmas and guess who uses it most?  That's right-----Me.  I love it

Age 59, Good health
Diagnosed July 2008
PSA 3.89, DRE neg
Gleason (3+3) - 6
6 of 12 cores
Nov 13, 2008 - Robotic Prostatectomy aborted due to adhesions
Jan 5, 2009 - Calypso Beacon implants

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