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DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 760
   Posted 12/31/2008 2:28 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, trivial question for anyone. I've been using Depends guards for men. What do people use when they feel like they can get away with something lighter? Guess I could use my wife's pads?

Pretty darned fortunate so far, I am only surprised by a few drops maybe once a day. Completely unpredictable when it will happen, but the amount has stayed pretty small so far.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


kw
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 12/31/2008 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
DJ, There are a few of us that still need a little backup.  I use a light womans panty liner for work and everyday activities.  The only time I have found I still need a regular men's pad is when I play golf.  But at that it is still only 1/2 full after 18 holes.  Without looking I think I am using the Always brand regular sized without wings.  Some guys have said they have a problem with the pad not being big enough the cover enough area or keeping "things" in the right place.  Unfortunately, I don't have a problem in that area!
Wish you well with your continued recovery.
KW
    43 at Dx and Surgery (RRP)
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
    July 14th, 2008 - AUS consultation with Dr. Morey at UT Southwestern (Dallas).
    July 30, PSA 0.00.
    Aug. 22nd, 2008 - AUS Surgery by Dr. Morey
    Oct. 6th, 2008 - AUS Activation by Dr. Morey
     


Bluenose
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Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 260
   Posted 12/31/2008 3:34 PM (GMT -6)   

 

..DJ I'll still use a Poise Ultra lite pad......I'm pretty much dry, just a very small leak from time to time. I think it's more of a psycological thing than physical with me...


 
   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA  spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      Gleason-3+4=7
      T2a
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"
       DaVinci completed 7.29.08,
       Bladder Sling installed, umbilical hernia repair  
       completed during surgery.    
        Sent home 30hrs,  JP drain in place 7days,
       Path report "cancer fully contained"....Margins clear
        Cath removed 8.8.08(ten days)...one lightly used pad 24 hours
        ED therapy begins 8.9.08. 100mg viagra three times a week,
        pump everyday and hold for ten minutes.
        8.16.08 switched to Levitra 20mg.......whahoo, got lucky...
        immediate results..... 
        9.15.08 pad free at night, one thin (light) pad during the daytime
        hours. Just because I'm chicken..!
         9.18.08 1st post-0p-PSA-Undetectable...Zero's!  Yes!
         12.22.08 2nd post-op PSA-Zeros still...  
           .
         .."just tryin' to reason with hurricane season"..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
       


DJBearGuy
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Total Posts : 760
   Posted 12/31/2008 4:02 PM (GMT -6)   
KW and Blue,

Thanks for the advice and support. Like many of us, I suppose, I used to leak occasionally before surgery. Less often, but when it happened the quantity was...noticeable. So learning to use pads was inevitable anyway.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Jetlagged
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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 29
   Posted 12/31/2008 10:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I for one see a marketing opportunity for somebody. I am in the "one pad a day club", in so much as I am for all practical purposes continent, but am too chicken-excrement to go pad free due to the occasional dribble and very rare squirt. I change it out everyday, largely for general hygiene and the fact that the "stuffing" gets dispersed by all the flexing. I've been using the Tena Male Guards, which are shaped like a triangle, offering very high confidence that "Stanley" (an Andrew Dice Clay movie reference) won't get sideways and embarrass me smilewinkgrin

However, all things considered they are too thick for my current needs (I'm not complaining mind you). I actually wrote the company and told them that if they made a pad with the same shape, but less than half the thickness they would tap a huge market, as I think there are many in my boat.

I would love to use one of the thinner "panty liner" style pads out there, but they are too narrow.

Maybe I'll just design my own, go to China and set up manufacturing and distribution, make millions and then get sued because the Chinese factory used recycled material that caused an incurable rash thereby bankrupting me to where I can't afford the Tena male Guards that I'm complaining about.

Nevermind smilewinkgrin
Robotic RP 12/07
Age 46
Pre-surgical PSA 5.02
Bone scan/Chest X-ray clear
All margins, seminal vesicles, 17 lymphs clear
3+4=7
Three Post-surgical PSA's <0.01


kw
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Date Joined Nov 2006
Total Posts : 883
   Posted 12/31/2008 11:53 PM (GMT -6)   

    I have thought the same thing,  If we had a Man's liner that was shaped like a athletic supporter that would keep things in place but still not be so hot and bulky to deal with.  I might get the panty liners and medical tape out and start workin on a prototype.

  Hang in there guys.....

  KW 


    43 at Dx and Surgery (RRP)
    PSA 5.7, Biopsy 3 of 12 positive (up to 75%) all on left side of prostate, Gleason 7
    RRP on Oct. 17, 2006 - Nerves on right side saved. All Lab's clear. 
    Cathiter in for 28 days due to complications in healing. Removed Nov. 9, 2006
    First Post op PSA on Dec. 11, 2006  Undetectable 0.00.
    ED workable and usable with Viagra.
    Feb. 20th, 2007 - Feb. 4th, 2008  Cystoscope, Two Collagen injections,Second Opinion Consultation for Incontinance at OU Medical Center, Bio-Feedback training, Chiropractic, Accupuncture  to try to resolve ongoing incontinance (4-6 pads a day)  All PSA's 0.00.
    Feb. 22nd, 2008 - Surgery to install the AMS AdVance Male Sling.
    March 27th, 2008 - Sling not working, Little or no improvement.
    April 18, 2008 - Collagen injection.  Back to using 4-6 full pads a day within a week.
    May 14, 2008 - Another collagen injection to try to Band-Aid the leaking for our June cruise.  Will start making conusultation appiontments for AUS after we return.
    July 14th, 2008 - AUS consultation with Dr. Morey at UT Southwestern (Dallas).
    July 30, PSA 0.00.
    Aug. 22nd, 2008 - AUS Surgery by Dr. Morey
    Oct. 6th, 2008 - AUS Activation by Dr. Morey
     


BillyMac
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Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 1858
   Posted 1/1/2009 4:31 AM (GMT -6)   
Don't know if they're available in the US but Hartmann's (German) Molimed UltruLight are great for those with the very occasional dribble or slight squirt due to exertion. 18 months out I occasionally have to lift 50kg doors and if I forget to squeeze before I lift and turn I can lose a few drops. It is also not unusual for me to hit 300 balls at the golf range and the same can happen there as the poor old body starts to sag under the strain. Traditional Y-fronts and one of these UltraLight pads a day and I'm as right as rain......they are tacky-backed, about 7"x2" and maybe 1/8" thick. The Y-fronts seem to keep the "equipment" in the right place.
Bill
1/05 PSA----2.9 3/06-----3.2 3/07-------4.1 5/07------3.9 All negative DREs
Aged 59 when diagnosed
Biopsy 6/07
4 of 10 cores positive for Adenocarcinoma-------bummer!
Core 1 <5%, core 2----50%, core 3----60%, core 4----50%
Biopsy Pathologist's comment:
Gleason 4+3=7 (80% grade 4) Stage T2c
Neither extracapsular nor perineural invasion is identified
CT scan and Bone scan show no evidence of metastases
Da Vinci RP Aug 10th 2007
Post-op pathology:
Positive for perineural invasion and 1 small focal extension
Negative at surgical margins, negative node and negative vesicle involvement
Some 4+4=8 identified ........upgraded to Gleason 8
PSA Oct 07 <0.1 undetectable
PSA Jan 08 <0.1 undetectable
PSA April 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
PSA August 08 <0.001 undetectable (disregarded due to lab "misreporting")
Post-op pathology rechecked by new lab:
Gleason downgraded to 4+3=7
Focal extension comprised of grade 3 cells
PSA September 08 <0.01 (new lab)


rob2
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1131
   Posted 1/1/2009 10:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I used the poise panty liners. If they are too narrow, you can always use 2 of them. they are a lot cheaper than depend guards.

Jetlagged, you are correct. We need to invent a male liner!!!
 
Age 48
occupation accountant
PSA increased from 2.6 to 3.5 in one year
biopsy march 2008 - cancer present gleason 7
decision - surgery (robotic)
surgery may 9, 2008 - houston, tx
pathology report -gleason 8
margins clear
4 week and 6 week PSA >.04 (undetectible)
6 month  PSA <.04 (low as the machine will go)
continent at 10 weeks (no pads!)
ED is an issue


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 760
   Posted 1/1/2009 12:12 PM (GMT -6)   
KW,

Yes, we need a supporter-type design so we can "hang in there".
cool
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


califguy
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Date Joined Sep 2008
Total Posts : 72
   Posted 1/1/2009 1:20 PM (GMT -6)   
The Tena Male guards mentioned above worked very well for me also. I too wished for a thinner version of that. But I found a generic male/female light days pad that worked for a few weeks and then I quit completely. But if there were a thinner triangle shaped one, I would use it when I am in a strenuous situation.
 
 

Don't get discouraged!!
CalifGuy
 
Diagnosed Feb 2008  54 years old
3+4=7 gleason
7.5 PSA
4 out of 20 biopsies were cancerous
daVinci Robotic surgery July 24, 2008
Univ of Calif San Francisco Med Center  Dr Peter Carroll
In hospital 2 nights altho I had option of leaving the next day but stayed due to distance home.
Contained in prostate, not spread
Six weeks post surgery PSA less than .01
Five month PSA less than 0.1  Lab did wrong type of PSA test so this test was not as accurate.

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