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sandstorm
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 194
   Posted 12/31/2008 4:14 PM (GMT -6)   
Well, new member signing on here.  Got the dreaded phone call on Veterans Day and a few days later found this site.  I've been a lurker untill now but you guys have sure been a help in getting a handle what lies ahead.  It sure has relieved alot of anguish and frustration and I just want to thank you for allowing me to lurk and learn.  Now I look forward to joining that zero club in the future. 

 
 _________________________________________________________
  5-18-07 PSA 7.7
  5-06-08 PSA 4.6  8% free psa
  10-23-08 PSA 5.65 4% free psa
  11-04-08 biopsy
  11-15-18 2 of 12 cores positive
  Gleason 3+3  6  stage t1c
  Scheduled for da vinci RRP 01-09-09


James C.
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 4463
   Posted 12/31/2008 4:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to HW and the club. I hope you stick around and keep up updated as you progress along your Journey. Thanks for the informative signature, by the way..
James C.         Age 61
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 Nerve sparing Open Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
Post Surgery PSA's: 3 mts-.04, 6 mts.-.04, 9 mts.-.04, 1 Year-.02.


kcragman
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 240
   Posted 12/31/2008 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Good luck, Sandstorm!!

Personally, I thought the biopsy was worse than the surgical procedure. When you wake up from surgery, things are going to suck for a little while, but just remember - every minute, every hour, every day you are healing, healing, healing. Let me be the first to say, "Just be patient." (Man, will you get tired of hearing that!)

So party like a madman until 1/9, and then take it easy.

Wishing you the best,
kcragman
Age: 52

March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb '08: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


Todd1963
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 3257
   Posted 12/31/2008 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome. Come on in kick your feet up and sit a spell. As I have found in the past few months, you are in a very good place. Todd
dx:06/03/06
Age at dx: 42 age now 45
Treated for sciatic nerve pain 6 months prior to dx.
Heavy amount of blood in urine Unable to urinate 
Lung x-ray for pnumonia revealed multiple lesions in each lung
P.S.A. at time of dx. 3216.14
Began lupron and casodex
Cat scan showed large mass in the pelvic area affecting the bladder multiple nodules in both lungs and lymph node envolvement.
Bone scan revealed possible bone involvment in the pelvic area
Biopsy 12 of 12 cores positive gleason 3+4=7
P.S.A.s since lupron 2946, 1274, 532, 5.01 1.23, .09
Begining jan 08 psa .o9, .25, .44, .86, .73, 1.34, 1.49. Doubling time is a little over 3 months
Cat Scan 12/12/08 Prostate normal size and shape. No tumors detected. Left lung clear of all nodules right lung showing only benign scar tissue. Lymph nodes normal
Bone Scan 12/24/08. Clean!!!


Doting Daughter
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 1064
   Posted 12/31/2008 6:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome Sandstorm. As you head into surgery, keep us posted on how we can help! There are amazing members here! Best wishes and may 2009 be cancer free!
Father's Age 62 (now 63)
Original Gleason 3+4=7, Post-Op Gleason- 4+3=7,
DaVinci Surgery Aug 31, 2007
Focally Positive Right Margin, One positive node. T3a N1 M0.
Bone Scan/CT Negative (Sept. 10, 2007)
Oct. 17 PSA 0.07
Nov. 13 PSA 0.05
Casodex adm. Nov 07, Lupron beg. Dec 03, 2007 2 yrs
Radiation March 03-April 22, 2008- 8 weeks 5x a week
July 2, 08 PSA <.02
Oct. 10, 08 PSA <.02
Praying for a cured dad.

Co-Moderator Prostate Cancer Forum


Bluenose
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 260
   Posted 12/31/2008 6:21 PM (GMT -6)   

 

...Welcome Sand...I forgot which of the vets told me the first time I signed on back in May...but echoing their advice.....enjoy, have a lot of fun...and just get the head straight for your journey....you'll do great brother. Keep us updated and again...Welcome this place is great!!


 
   age: 53
   Pre-0p PSA  Feb. 08, 5.0
      4.22.08, 4.1
      PSA  spiked once about 8yrs ago to 5.0 three months later
      back to 2.9...then into the 1.2 range until my re-scheduled 
      "missed" appointment this past Feb.
      Biopsy 5.1.08 
      Gleason-3+4=7
      T2a
      5 of 15 cores positive
      Da Vinci scheduled..7.29.08..as I read somewhere on this 
      site....."the first show of the day"
       DaVinci completed 7.29.08,
       Bladder Sling installed, umbilical hernia repair  
       completed during surgery.    
        Sent home 30hrs,  JP drain in place 7days,
       Path report "cancer fully contained"....Margins clear
        Cath removed 8.8.08(ten days)...one lightly used pad 24 hours
        ED therapy begins 8.9.08. 100mg viagra three times a week,
        pump everyday and hold for ten minutes.
        8.16.08 switched to Levitra 20mg.......whahoo, got lucky...
        immediate results..... 
        9.15.08 pad free at night, one thin (light) pad during the daytime
        hours. Just because I'm chicken..!
         9.18.08 1st post-0p-PSA-Undetectable...Zero's!  Yes!
         12.22.08 2nd post-op PSA-Zeros still...  
           .
         .."just tryin' to reason with hurricane season"..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
       


divo
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Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 637
   Posted 12/31/2008 9:13 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for coming Sandstorm, and Happy New Year! It's quite a party!! Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


DoingFine
Regular Member


Date Joined Sep 2008
Total Posts : 46
   Posted 12/31/2008 9:22 PM (GMT -6)   
Man I agree with Kcragman . . . I thought the biopsy was worse than the surgery.

I wish you the best in this New Year.

Cheers
Age at dx: 51 Age now: 52
Great health: Riding bike 200+ miles weekly; no symptoms
First PSA: 4.7 March 2008 (bummer)
Second PSA: 4.97 June 2008
Biopsy June 2008
Positive 5 of 12 cores (real bummer) T1c
Gleason 3+3
Bone scan: 7 July negative
RRP surgery 3 Sept 2008 at the Mayo Clinic: Rochester, MN
All clear
Catheter out 22 Sept 8:30 AM, catheter back in at 11:30 (not happy)
Catheter out 30 Sept (this time for good!)
Total continence, no erectile difficulties from day one (Cialis 10mg daily)
Back on bike 15 Oct. (42 days . . . with doc's approval)
Dec. 2 2008 psa Undetectable!


Ralph Alfalfa
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Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 12/31/2008 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome, Sandman.
Sorry you're here but as I'm sure you've noticed...lots of bright and informed folks here. I'm 10 days after you for surgery but hope all goes well with yours. I've got a story to tell but will post it later. I think you will find this the most informative forum on our subject. It's funny how everyone eventuallly gets here. I found it by "googling" prostate cancer forums. Lurkers! Don't hesitate. Come on in...the waters fine.
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas


DJBearGuy
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Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 818
   Posted 12/31/2008 10:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Funny, you nearly started a new topic: "Is Biopsy worse than Surgery?"

I found the overall surgery experience, including the catheter issues, to be worse. But, I have to agree that the biopsy was pretty darned unpleasant.
It's evern written up in my doctor's notes: "This was not tolerated well."
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


livinadream
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1382
   Posted 12/31/2008 10:54 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to the club Sand and I can almost guarantee you will be a member of the coveted zero club real soon. Hang around the forum, get your monies worth. Share in our conversations and ask all the questions you need. Wish you didn't have cancer but hey the blessing is you found us.

peace and love
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .06
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


kcragman
Regular Member


Date Joined May 2008
Total Posts : 240
   Posted 1/5/2009 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Sorry Sandstorm, DJBearGuy is correct - I was thinking about the first 24 hours after surgery. They suck pretty bad, but the catheter thing really sucks!

But - you will be like the rest of us. You will step up to the plate, you will be absolutely amazed at what you can put up with, you will learn a ton of little tricks to help yourself get by physically and mentally, and after the catheter comes out in a week or 10 days it will be like friggin Christmas all over again. So see? Something to look forward to.

At this point I can only mention two words - stool softeners. Get them, use them, love them.

Good luck!
kcragman
Age: 52

March 2006: PSA 2.5
Dec 2007: PSA taken for insurance application. I did not see the results until late
              Jan '08 - after I was rejected. Their lab said PSA 4.5.
Feb '08: PSA 3.7.
March 2008: Biopsy. Gleason 7 (4+3) 12 cores taken. 5 on the left side were
              cancerous and the 6th was suspect.  
May 5, 2008: Da Vinci robotic laparoscopy at GW Hospital, Washington DC.

Post op: Gleason 9 (4+5). 15% of prostate involved. Stage: pT3a. Negative margins. Lymph node and nerve samples taken, and appeared to be cancer free.

July 2008: PSA at 7 weeks was undetectable.
August 2008: PSA at 14 weeks (3 months) was undetectable.
Nov 2008: PSA at 6 months was undetectable.


Purgatory
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Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 1/5/2009 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Welcome to Our Merry Band, Sandstorm. Sorry you are here but glad you are here at the same time. I agree with Hkragman, take stool softeners everyday even if you never needed one before. Struggling for that first painful BM 5 - 6 days after surgery was no picnic. Even more than 7 weeks out from surgery now, I still take the softeners just because. I hope you do well among us, keep us posted of your events.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
 
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
 
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
 
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. New appt. to see dr. on 1/5/9 as result.
 
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
 
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


LV-TX
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 966
   Posted 1/5/2009 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Sand, just to drop a note and wish you well in your surgery. Always keep your head up and remain positive in your attitude...the most important part of healing not only for you but for your loved ones as well. Soon enough you will be on here helping others like the rest of us. Any questions, don't hesitate to ask, lots of good folks here with answers from the real world and not from some doctors brochure. No offense to the litature available, but sometimes the questions need real life experience answers and not just statistics.
Les
 
Age 58 at Diagnosis
Oct 2006 - PSA 2.6 - DRE Normal
May 2008 - PSA 4.6 - DRE Normal / TRUS normal-Gland 38 cc
July 2008 - Biopsy 4 of 12 Positive 5 - 30% Involved Bilateral (Perineural Invasion present at base)
Gleason (3+3) 6  Stage T1C
August 23 - Bone Scan - Hips, Spine and ribs marked uptake - X-Ray showed clear -Hooray
Sept 9 2nd DRE - questionable - TRUS...shadow in base - Gland now 41 cc
Robotic Surgery Sept 18, 2008
Pathology October 1,2008
Gleason 7 (4+3) Staged pT2c NO MX
Gland 50 cc
Seminal Vesicles and Lymph Nodes clear
Positive Margins Right Posterior Lobe
4 tumors in prostate - largest being 6 cm 
PSA Oct 08 <.05


Tobmeister
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 41
   Posted 1/6/2009 1:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Sandstorm, wishing the best with surgery.

Regarding Purgatory's remark about 5-6 day wait for BM, everyone is different. The gas and bloating is definitely the worst part of the 1st few days recovery period but I had BM on day 2. My doctor had me take magnesium citrate after discharge (the same thing I took to clean out the day before surgery) and it worked great. Some doctors for whatever reason don't suggest this but I think it is absolutely necessary. Also, I didn't have to take any pain medication once I left the hospital the next day after surgery.

I'm one week out from surgery and feeling great - this catheter is a minor inconvenience.

So anyway, leave your worries in the hands of your surgeon and God and concentrate on positive quick recovery and a cancer free future.

Tom
Tom, age 51
Diagnosed 11/12/2008
PSA 2006 - 2.8, 2007 3.06, 2008 4.6 (remember the rate of increase is as important as the level), PSA free 8.7%
Gleason score 7 (4+3); 6 out of 19 cores sampled positive for cancer; perineural invasion present
Bone scan and CT scan both negative
Prostate mildly enlarged, DRE negative
DaVinci radical prostatectomy 12/30/2008 - Duke Medical Center - left side nerves spared
Scheduled for catheter removal 1/15/2009

"Pick a good doctor and say your prayers"


Purgatory
Elite Member


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 1/6/2009 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
From reading above remark, I guess I must clarify, that for me, myself, it took 5-6 days to have my first bm. They tried everytrick in the hospital, laxatives, warm prune juice, and got nothing but stomach rumbling, the doc. said that was good enough for him, and they released me after 4 days without a real bm.
Yes, everybody has a diff. story there, didn't mean to imply there was some set time.

For many, perhaps the catheter is a minor inconvience, but I am finishing up on day 53 with one in place, it's a little more then inconvient, lol.

Tom, no pain med after leaving the hospital? Either you have an amazing threshold of pain tolerance, or perhaps having a robotit really does cut down the pain edge. I feel I am pretty tough, but I didn't wean off of prescription pain meds after my open RP surgery until about week 3, and I hate to take meds. Again, we are all different.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, further tests/treatments 1/9/8.
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


livinadream
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Date Joined Apr 2008
Total Posts : 1382
   Posted 1/6/2009 6:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Good grief another person joining our club. We are exlusive you know and DO NOT want any new members. Welcome Sandstone and I to wish you did not have to be here. God calls us all to different journeys in life so find the blessings when and where you can. please join in and get your monies worth. There is a wealth of knowledge and love here at HW. May God bless you and comfort you as you embark on this facet of life.

peace and love
Dale
My PSA at diagnosis was 16.3
age 46 (current)
My gleason score from prostate was 4+5=9 and from the lymph nodes was 4+4=8
I had 44 IMRT's
Casodex
Currently on Lupron
I go to The Cancer Treatment Center of America
Married with two kids
latest PSA 5-27-08 0.11
PSA July 24th, 2008 is 0.04
PSA Dec 16th, 2008 is .06
Testosterone keeps rising, the current number is 156, up from 57 in May
cancer in 4 of 6 cores
92%
80%
37%
28%
 


divo
Veteran Member


Date Joined Jul 2008
Total Posts : 637
   Posted 1/6/2009 7:57 PM (GMT -6)   
We are in this club for whatever reason. I am drawn here, because I learn and I get a few laughs now and then...and also when I post something about my dear husband, I get responses. You folks are terrific and we all are in this together....I think some of you know more than the doctors....really....... Diane
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


60Michael
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 2243
   Posted 1/6/2009 9:04 PM (GMT -6)   
New member as well and this has been quite helpful. PSA 4.4 2 of 12 biopsies positive. CT and Bone scan fine. looking at Robotic but to see a Dr. in Georgia it will be next month and then likely a 6 week wait on surgery. I guess I will have to see if my insurance covers the robotic. But thanks for all the good insight.

Ralph Alfalfa
Regular Member


Date Joined Nov 2008
Total Posts : 469
   Posted 1/6/2009 9:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Michael, Welcome to the show that never ends. Seems we have more new folks showing up all the time, which is distressing. Hope insurance covers your procedure(as it should). Listen to the vets here. They have been down the road ahead of you and are a wealth of good advice. I've learned so much here from folks like Tony,Di, David is SC, Biker, etc. Read and assimilate. We will watch your progress and don't be a stranger.
Bob
 AGE:57
 Dx: October,27(the day after my birthday)
 Psa 14.5
 Gleason:(4+3) 7 T1c
 Bone scan:Negative
 Cat scan: Negative
 Biopsy: 4 of 12 positive, left side, pre-cancerous on the right.
 Confined to prostate.
 DaVinci scheduled for Jan. 19, 2009.Dr. Scott Montgomery, KC Urology,
Shawnee Mission Med. Center. Kansas


Tobmeister
Regular Member


Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 41
   Posted 1/6/2009 9:20 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, David, I didn't notice that you had open surgery but the robotic indeed makes all the difference in the world. That's why I didn't want Sand to worry so much about recovery because he is having robotic.

Day 53 on catheter? That is more than an inconvenience. I hope that will come out soon. I called my doctor today to complain about having to wait 15 days instead of 12 - everything is relative - so now I won't complain so loudly.

I know one guy who had one in for several months and joked when he got it out that he wished they would leave it in because he was used to not worrying about having to make it to the bathroom.

Good luck to you!
Tom, age 51
Diagnosed 11/12/2008
PSA 2006 - 2.8, 2007 3.06, 2008 4.6 (remember the rate of increase is as important as the level), PSA free 8.7%
Gleason score 7 (4+3); 6 out of 19 cores sampled positive for cancer; perineural invasion present
Bone scan and CT scan both negative
Prostate mildly enlarged, DRE negative
DaVinci radical prostatectomy 12/30/2008 - Duke Medical Center - left side nerves spared
Scheduled for catheter removal 1/15/2009

"Pick a good doctor and say your prayers"


Purgatory
Elite Member


Date Joined Oct 2008
Total Posts : 25393
   Posted 1/6/2009 9:30 PM (GMT -6)   
When I went into my surgery, I was told the cath would be in 10-14 days max, when I came out of surgery, the dr, due to surgical difficulties, told me 30. The rest of my long cath saga is well documented here.

Not happy about still having one this long, by after two complete blockages and their associated pains, I no longer go nuts about it. The pain was way worse then the catheters, I promise you that.

I agree, Sand should do well on his robot surgery, like the majority of the men here do that opt that choice. I wish him only the best.

David in SC
Age 56, 56 at DX
PSA 7/7 5.8, 7/8 12.3, 9/8 14.9, 10/8 16.4
3rd Biopsy 9-2008 Positive 7 of 7 cores positive, ranging from 40 - 90%, G 4+3 & 3+4
Open RP surgery  November 14, 2008 at St. Francis Hospital, Greenville, SC, Dr. Ronald Smith - Surgeon, Non-nerve sparing, 4 days in hospital, staples removed 11/24/8, Catheter out on 12/15/8 on day 32.  Day 33, urine stopped flowing, new catheter put in 12/16/08, Catheter out 12/29/08.  After 7 hours, complete stoppage again, emergency room put in Catheter #3 early evening of day 45, still 12/29/08. 1/5/9 - Cath #3 out, dr. did cycloscope, saw potential blockage, put in Catheter #4, further tests/treatments 1/9/8.
Post-surgery Pathlogy Report:
Gleason 3+4=7, pT2c pN0 pMx, Prostate 42 grams, tumor 20% cancer
Contained in capsular, neg. margins apex, bladder neck, right lobe, neg. in seminal vessels and lymph nodes.
First PSA Post Surgery  Scheduled now for 2/9/9
 
 


DJBearGuy
Veteran Member


Date Joined Dec 2008
Total Posts : 818
   Posted 1/6/2009 9:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Tom et al,

I had robotic also, and for me the pain pills were a lifesaver for a couple days. But I was surprised at how fast the pain level decreased. I don't recall if the pain was due to gas or bloating, I just remember being in pain. For stolls, took milk of magnesia and senecot, which took effect around day 3 or 4. But it wasn't too bad in that department, I've had worse.
DJ

Age 53
PSA 2007 about 2
PSA 2008 4.3
Diagnosed September 2008.
Biopsy: 6 of 12 cores positive
Gleason 4+3 = 7
CT and Bone scan negative
Da Vinci surgery at City of Hope December 8, 2008
Radical prostatectomy and lymph node dissection
Catheter removed on 7th day, replaced on 8th day, removed again 14th day following negative cystogram
pT2c
lymph nodes negative
microscopic margins
next PSA 1/22/08


Frank1205
Regular Member


Date Joined Feb 2008
Total Posts : 308
   Posted 1/7/2009 12:01 AM (GMT -6)   
Here's my two cents:
 
Surgery goes fast.  I had DaVinci as well.  Catheter was never a problem out in 7 days.  Went outdoors with it and no problem. Here is just a couple of recomendations:
 
No lifting anything heavier than a nice beef roast for six weeks.
Hold your belly with a pillow when you cough or sneeze
Be careful with twisting motions
Walk, walk and then walk some more.
 
All the best,
 
Frank
 
Oh keep walking.
Age 54
DRE normal , 2004 Biospy negative - 2008 Biopsy positive (01-08-08)
10 cores, 1 positive and at 1% of that one core
PSA @ surgery 6 
Bone and Ct scans negative
clinicaly Staged at T1C - Gleason 3+3 = 6
Robotic Da Vinci performed March 27th, 2008, University of Chicago.
Catheter out in 7 days normaly expected leakage
Post Pathology T2C, Gleason 7, (3+4) 10 % of both portions of prostate
Seminal vessels clear, fat tissue clear, single positve margin at apex measuring less than 1/2mm. 
PSA Six week < 0.1 4 month PSA <.05 6 month PSA<0.01,9 month<0.01
Watching PSA @ 3 months for 2 years,  will do salvage radiation if necessary.
Fair to Good results with Viagra,  side effects are bothersome at times. 
 


Tobmeister
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Date Joined Jan 2009
Total Posts : 41
   Posted 1/7/2009 5:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Frank, what side effects from Viagra can I expect? Also, did you use the pump?

Tom
Tom, age 51
Diagnosed 11/12/2008
PSA 2006 - 2.8, 2007 3.06, 2008 4.6 (remember the rate of increase is as important as the level), PSA free 8.7%
Gleason score 7 (4+3); 6 out of 19 cores sampled positive for cancer; perineural invasion present
Bone scan and CT scan both negative
Prostate mildly enlarged, DRE negative
DaVinci radical prostatectomy 12/30/2008 - Duke Medical Center - left side nerves spared
Scheduled for catheter removal 1/15/2009

"Pick a good doctor and say your prayers"

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