I had open surgery 13 weeks ago . My progress has been pretty by the numbers I feel. I gauge this by checking our site each day. Incontinence is still a problem.I load up 3 -4 pads a day but am dry during night. At night I no longer use a pad, just pull ups. It's not much but it is some bulk relief. For the record I use prevail underwear and pads. I use the ultra pad. I have a active job as a service tech so this works against me. I also work out regularly which increases leakage. I hope to see some slow relief in the next couple months. I hope to be close to dry by summer. I would expect having to wear this stuff when it's warmer lends to all sorts of negative possibillities. I call our condition the curse and I hope to find the wizard with the magic to lift it. I know I will be fine in time. Joined zero club in December and hope to build on that in March. Good luck to all, and as always Carry On!!