IMPORTANCE OF GREEN TEA

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divo
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   Posted 1/7/2009 11:35 AM (GMT -6)   
The catechin in green tea (especially Japanese green tea) inhibits prostate cancer cell growth. There are many scholarly articles on this. Anyone who has had Pca or has it presently, should be drinking at least 2-3 cups a day. Let the tea bag steep for ten minutes to let the chemicals release....

If you doubt this, just google green tea and prostate cancer..

Best wishes to all...... Di yeah
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


Mavica
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Date Joined Jun 2008
Total Posts : 407
   Posted 1/7/2009 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Urban legend, old wives tale . . . whatever.  Don't believe all of the hype that this, or that will help or cure.  What's in favor today will be out tomorrow.  Drink the tea for it's flavor and if it helps with something else, fine - but don't chase after false or suspicious promises/promotions about these things.  ;-)

Age:  59 (58 at diagnosis - June, 2008)

April '08 PSA 4.8 ("free PSA" 7.9), up from 3.5 year prior

June '08 had biopsy, 2 days later told results positive but in less than 1% of sample

Gleason's 3+3=6

Developed sepsis 2 days post-biopsy, seriously ill in hospital for 3 days

Dr. recommended robotic removal using da Vinci

Surgery 9/10/08

Northwestern Memorial Hospital, Chicago, IL

Dr. Robert Nadler, Urologist/Surgeon

Post-op Gleason's:  3+3, Tertiary 4

Margins:  Free

Bladder & Urethral:  Free

Seminal vesicles:  Not involved

Lymphatic/Vascular Invasion:  Not involved

Tumor:  T2c; Location:  Bilateral; Volume:  20%

Catheter:  Removed 12-days after surgery

Incontinent:  Yes (getting better, though)

Combination of Cialis and MUSE (alprostadil) three times weekly started 9-27-08

Returned to work 9-29-08 (18-19 days post-op)

PSA test result, post-op, 10/08: 0.0; 12/08: 0.0

 


divo
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   Posted 1/7/2009 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Mavica, I refer you to this Mayo Clinic 2008 study.. http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/inside.asp?Aid=4396&Uid= Cheers.. Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


James C.
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   Posted 1/7/2009 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
HMMM, their conclusion:

EGCG is a complex molecule with many potential anticarcinogenic functions. It acts as an antioxidant, serving to neutralize free radicals in the body before they cause cell damage. EGCG blocks angiogenesis, the process by which new blood vessels are formed, thereby depriving tumors of the nutrients needed for growth. It also inhibits the cell cycle, preventing cancerous cells from dividing and selectively causing cancerous cells to undergo apoptosis. Finally, EGCG has antibacterial properties that can combat H pylori, an organism implicated in the formation of gastric cancer. Although research data obtained from in vitro studies are promising, results from animal models, observational studies, and human intervention trials remain somewhat mixed. Nonetheless, further evaluation of EGCG as a candidate compound for chemoprevention and/or chemotherapy appears warranted on the basis of the preponderance of currently available data. Additional studies are needed to determine how the active ingredients in green tea interact with environmental and genetic factors, as well as to identify the EGCG mechanisms effective against given cancer types, so that these mechanisms can be fine-tuned or supplemented to increase the desired effects. However, the potential of green tea as an anticarcinogenic agent is high because of its low cost, wide availability, and apparent low toxicity.

I wonder if they did follow thru with trials in the mentioned categories. This is from 2007. Interesting, though..
James C. Age 61
Co-Moderator- Prostate Cancer Forum
4/19/07 PSA 7.6, referred to Urologist, recheck 6.7
7/11/07 Biopsy- 16 core samples, size of gland around 76 cc. Staging pT2c
7/17/07 Path report: 3 of 16 PCa, 5% involved, left lobe , GS 3/3:6.
9/24/07 Nerve sparing open Retropubic Radical Prostatectomy
9/26/07 Post-op Path Report: GS 3+3=6 Staging pT2c, 110gms, margins clear
16 mts: ED- 50 mg Viagra 3X week, pump daily,Trimix .35ml 2X week continues
Post Surgery PSA's: 3 mts-.04, 6 mts.-.04, 9 mts.-.04, 1 Year-.02.


Ripandburn
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Date Joined Aug 2007
Total Posts : 125
   Posted 1/7/2009 2:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Read the book called, " Anti Cancer: A New Way of life". It is currently on the best seller list. Written by an MD and PHD. It is not a wives tale and there is much evidence to back it up. This book was recommended by someone on this site. Everyone who is out here and dealing with PCA should read it. Thanks to whoever it was that recommended this book here several weeks ago!!
53 years old
T1c 3+3=6
DaVinci July 16, 2007
largest cancer .2mm
Bladder Sling installed during prostate removal
nerve sparing with both nerve bundles intact
all cancer contained within prostate nothing near margins
11 weeks post-op - no more pads
4 PSA's all < .1 - Undetectable


divo
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   Posted 1/7/2009 6:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Dear Ripandburn....Thank you....It was I......Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


divo
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   Posted 1/8/2009 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Selmer, that is exactly what we think. The medical profession has been woefully behind in nutrition. Take for example Vitamin D3. Di
Husband Pete
dx Jan 2001 gleason 4 + 3 PSA 16.5
Seed implant and conformal radiation and Lupron from Jan 2001 to Jan2002
2005 Dec PSA began to rise from .5 to 8 within 6 months
Salvage surgery at MSK 9/06 Dr. Eastham
Fistula operation 2/07 MSK Dr. Wong
Many cystoscopies and ER visits with strictures
Catheter for one year....Catheter taken out Sept 07..
Total Incontinence since then....
PSA .52 3/08
AUS Operation at MSK Sept 8 2008 Dr. Sandhu
Activated Oct 28th Dr. Sandhu..MSK
Some difficulty with AUS arising Nov 10 2008
Meeting with Dr. Sandhu to discuss AUS problems and new PSA test Dec 11, 2008
PSA .6 12/08
Waiting to see if AUS gets better results
Complete hip replacement surgery coming up Jan 9, 2009


don826
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   Posted 1/8/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -6)   

I could not resist this topic as I have been giving it some thought lately in a broader sense. How much can diet impact the cancer? So far, the best article I have read is in regards to Dr. Dean Ornish' diet for PCa. It is very similar to his heart diet. I can say from personal experience that his diet is extreme and extremely tough to follow. Do not even look at a steak! :-) I tried his diet for my cholesterol with only modest success. Lost a lot of weight though. Finally broke down and started on the statins. (google Ornish prostate diet for the article)

I have always taken supplements but my research has indicated that some I have been taking are not recommended for PCa. (Now they tell me sad ) I stopped all supplements during my radiation treatment and I am now taking only a select few. D3 w/calcium, fish oil, C, pomegranate extract, and capsaicin.

By the way the article I read on green tea said to steep for 10 minutes and to drink 10 cups per day to get the therapeutic dose. Just what a guy with prostate problems needs... something else to drink. :-)

Di thanks for the post.

Don


Diagnosed 04/10/08
Age 58
PSA 21.5 (first and only test resulted from follow up visit to emergency room for kidney stone. first time for kidney stone too)
Gleason 4 + 3
DRE palpable tumor on left side
100% of 12 cores positive for PCa range 35% to 85%
Bone scan clear
Chest x ray clear
CT scan shows potential lymph node involvement in pelvic region
Started Casodex on May 2 and stopped on June 1, 2008
Lupron injection on May 15 and every four months for next two years
PSA test on July 14, 08 after 8 weeks hormone .82
Started IMRT/IGRT on July 10, 2008. 45 treatments scheduled
First 25 to be full pelvic for a total dose of 45 Gray to lymph nodes.
Last 20 to prostate only. Total dose to prostate 81 Gray.
Completed IMRT/IGRT 09/11/08.
Second Lupron shot 09/11/08
Next PSA test by oncologist 03/09
 
 

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